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roland376

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i WANT TO taker these last weeks of my cycle to lean out. Hows this diet look?

1. oatmeal and 6 egg whites and glass skim milk
2. 50 gram whey protein shake mixed with watert
3. chicken with wheat bread or potatoes
4. protein shake with water
5 workout
6. protein shake mixed with oj for the simple carbs
7. chicken or steak with bananna or slice wheat
8. protein shot before bed

Also I like banannas alot, are they bad when cutting?

any suggestions

also i'm doing cardio three times week in morining on empty stom.
 
Eliminate the Milk when cuting. A banana here and there is not bad but you have to watch out as fruit has a lot of natural sugars. What is the total cal, fat, protein, carbs breakdown of that diet ?

M18
 
Having fruit juice like OJ post workout will do nothing for you as far as spiking insulin and refilling glycogen stores go. Drop the OJ and get maltodextrin or dextrose. If thats not obtainable, white rice will suffice.
 
I was just about to say what Primal X said, but he beat me to it. The object of simple carbs post workout is to 1) spike insulin levels 2) replenish MUSCLE glycogen. Fructose isn't that high on a GI index so the insulin spike will be minimal and it has a higher propensity to be stored as liver glycogen. Drop the OJ. Primal X's suggestions are spot on. I like bananas more than apes, but they are a no-no while dieting.
 
I just started cutting. On my first day i like to go zero carb. I feel this starts the fat burning process quicker. its not keto just a no carb day.
 
Re: Are you dead serious?

The Wedge said:
If you're serious about getting ripped you'd be taking in only 50-100g carbs a day.
Not true at all. This blanket statement is far from the truth. Everybody reacts to dieting in vastly differing ways. For some extremely low carb dieting only serves to slow metabolic activity to a halt thus making fat loss nearly impossible. Extremely low carb dieting that doesn't put one into ketosis leaves muscle amino acids vulnerable to being burned to meet energy needs....converted to glucose(glucogenesis). Not all people do well with low carbs, so ignorant concepts like this can be to the detriment of one whom physiologicaly won't burn fat in this environment. The only true constant for weight loss is using more calories than are consumed. We as bodybuildeers have every interest in where those calories are being derived to meet the deficiency. For some who are geneticaly set up carry lesser amounts of muscle mass catabolism becomes of pinnalce importance. If one of these muscle atrophying marvels were to severly limit carbohydrate consumption they would utilize muslce tissue at stunning rates to meet thier energy needs. This has two severly consequential effects. First, the loss of muscle mass slows metabolism. This means less calories burned throughout the day, and as was stated previously; it all comes down to burning more calories than are consumed to loose weight. The second, and most pshycologicaly depressing consequence of losing muscle mass is the loss of shape and definition. What's the point of being lean if there's nothing to show? Low carbs does not neccessarily mean the burning of fat. For some this can be disaster to a physique. Mythical "laws" of dieting like this one need not be perpetuated they should be opinionated.

roland, if you can provide some more detailed infromation about yourself and training it would make things easier to get a handle on your dieting needs. More specific details are needed to get more specific answers.
 
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its not just the nutrient ratios that matter, you cant say eat only 100g of carbs per day and you will get ripped, you have to make sure your caloric intake is less then what you expand or the fat loss will not come.
 
"Not true at all. This blanket statement is far from the truth. Everybody reacts to dieting in vastly differing ways. For some extremely low carb dieting only serves to slow metabolic activity to a halt thus making fat loss nearly impossible. Extremely low carb dieting that doesn't put one into ketosis leaves muscle amino acids vulnerable to being burned to meet energy needs....converted to glucose(glucogenesis). Not all people do well with low carbs, so ignorant concepts like this can be to the detriment of one whom physiologicaly won't burn fat in this environment. The only true constant for weight loss is using more calories than are consumed. We as bodybuildeers have every interest in where those calories are being derived to meet the deficiency. For some who are geneticaly set up carry lesser amounts of muscle mass catabolism becomes of pinnalce importance. If one of these muscle atrophying marvels were to severly limit carbohydrate consumption they would utilize muslce tissue at stunning rates to meet thier energy needs. This has two severly consequential effects. First, the loss of muscle mass slows metabolism. This means less calories burned throughout the day, and as was stated previously; it all comes down to burning more calories than are consumed to loose weight. The second, and most pshycologicaly depressing consequence of losing muscle mass is the loss of shape and definition. What's the point of being lean if there's nothing to show? Low carbs does not neccessarily mean the burning of fat. For some this can be disaster to a physique. Mythical "laws" of dieting like this one need not be perpetuated they should be opinionated.

roland, if you can provide some more detailed infromation about yourself and training it would make things easier to get a handle on your dieting needs. More specific details are needed to get more specific answers."

great majority of people will do best on low-med carbs and low fat, high proteing. Thats why you see most pros follow a nutrient break down somewhere around 15-20%carbs, 10-15%fats, 65-75%protein. Looking at the situation from a bio-chemical stand point, lipids are better utilized for energy in a kreb cycle when the carbs are present but kept low and fats are injested in low amounts, but should not be completely eliminated from ones diet due to esential fatty acids.
 
I was just about to say what Primal X said, but he beat me to it. The object of simple carbs post workout is to 1) spike insulin levels 2) replenish MUSCLE glycogen. Fructose isn't that high on a GI index so the insulin spike will be minimal and it has a higher propensity to be stored as liver glycogen. Drop the OJ. Primal X's suggestions are spot on. I like bananas more than apes, but they are a no-no while dieting.

Just wanted to coment on OJ. It will produce a fairly elevated insulin spike and, depending on brands, can contain a fair amount sugars other than frutcose. However, it will not elevate to or sustain optimal post-exercise insulin levels. It is far from the best choice in a post workout meal. Regarding frutcose; do not make the error of disregarding the advantages gained by quick liver glycogen replenishment in addition to muscle glycogen replenishment.
 
Roland, you can't go wrong with the following choices for food when in moderation. This is basically all I eat precontest.

-nonfat cottage cheese (mix in protein powder for taste)
-chicken breast
-tuna in water
-any vegetable
-lean fish (cod, orange roughy, etc.)
-protein shakes in water
-ground turkey breast
-a low-carb protein bar once in a while (to "cheat")
-flaxseed or Udo's Choice oil

Personally, I have had the best luck consuming 1800-2200kcal (vary each day) with ratios of
55-60% protein
20-25% carbs
~15% fat
 
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