cutting help

[colorado1975]

Hi Guys - I think I am on a good cycle. 4 weeks in:

1-11 test testosterone propionate 75 mg day
2-9 trenbolone e 50 mg day (may bump to 80 as I'm feeling almost zero sides)
1-11 masteron propionate 75 mg day
2-11 aromasin 12.5 mg eod
2-8 caber .5 mg e3d
3-13 HCG - human chorionic gonadotropin - 200ius EOD

PCT
12-15 clomid 25/25/25/25
12-15 Unleashed/post cycle combo
12-15 forma stanzol
12-15 daa powerchews or powder

My Stats:
37
5'11
197
11% bf

I have winnie, var, and primo on hand and was curious as to what would be the best one to add at the tail end of the cycle for cutting purposes? My goal here is cutting, no need for bulking up, just wanting to continue to cut. For diet I am going Vegan/Mostly Raw and my exercise program consists of P90x 2 with an additional 3-4 A.M. runs/week.

Please let me know what you think on adding an additional compound(s) and what dosage/duration you would suggest. To note, I am not big on T3/clen. I also have HGH on hand, but I don't think HGH would benefit for such a short run. Some say it's good for fat loss when run for 6 weeks but hell if I know?!

Thank You!

 

[dylangemelli]

Hi Guys - I think I am on a good cycle. 4 weeks in:

1-11 test testosterone propionate 75 mg day
2-9 trenbolone e 50 mg day (may bump to 80 as I'm feeling almost zero sides)
1-11 masteron propionate 75 mg day
2-11 aromasin 12.5 mg eod
2-8 caber .5 mg e3d
3-13 HCG - human chorionic gonadotropin - 200ius EOD

PCT
12-15 clomid 25/25/25/25
12-15 Unleashed/post cycle combo
12-15 forma stanzol
12-15 daa powerchews or powder

My Stats:
37
5'11
197
11% bf

I have winnie, var, and primo on hand and was curious as to what would be the best one to add at the tail end of the cycle for cutting purposes? My goal here is cutting, no need for bulking up, just wanting to continue to cut. For diet I am going Vegan/Mostly Raw and my exercise program consists of P90x 2 with an additional 3-4 A.M. runs/week.

Please let me know what you think on adding an additional compound(s) and what dosage/duration you would suggest. To note, I am not big on T3/clen. I also have HGH on hand, but I don't think HGH would benefit for such a short run. Some say it's good for fat loss when run for 6 weeks but hell if I know?!

Thank You!

please just forget about the hgh... you would need to be running that 6 months to a year and its just not necessary... primo would need to be ran 14-16 weeks... primo and winnie are both dht as is mast, so you would be risking some hair shedding running either of them with mast... if you don't care about that then run winstrol on the back... if you do care then run anavar and proviron...

 

[RickRock13]

I wouldn't add anything more to your current stack. Its pretty heavy right now as is....and HGH us useless is short durations

 

[ballslee]

im just curious, are you running Tren E ED? or did you just write out the dosages by what it would be per day over the whole week....

because Tren E is a long ester and only needs to be pinned twice a week. your other injects can be EOD, no need for ED.

i would cut the mast out at week 8, take 1-2 weeks off and then kill the winny or Var.

I actually disagree with yall about the HGH, fat loss from HGH definitely occurs fairly quickly with use.
In my experience, I have noticed that fat loss was rather immediate in injected areas and running on a cutting cycle would accelerate it it. I would also make sure you continue running the HGH through and past PCT because it has helped me keep my gains substantially through cycles.

People say you do not see results from hgh for 6 months or whatever, but i completely disagree.
You know the second you inject if you have legit HGH or not, and it makes your mood elevated from day 1. Fat loss occurs fairly quickly, and muscle growth and connective tissue growth are the only things that take long in my opinion.

 

[dylangemelli]

on this cycle, there is no need for hgh, especially since he just got done running it not long ago and with all the other shit that is being run, its fucking overkill...

DO NOT ADD NOLVA TO YOUR PCT... im sure you already know that bro...

 

[peejae]

Always throwing that nolva out there. Lol.

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[ballslee]

please just forget about the hgh... you would need to be running that 6 months to a year and its just not necessary... primo would need to be ran 14-16 weeks... primo and winnie are both dht as is mast, so you would be risking some hair shedding running either of them with mast... if you don't care about that then run winstrol on the back... if you do care then run anavar and proviron...

Why do you recommend anavar instead of primo or winny? Anavar is a DHT too and combined with mast can easily cause shedding as well.
Is it "less likely" to cause shedding then the others?

also, primo is not a DHT derivative...it is a DHB derivative.

 

[dylangemelli]

Why do you recommend anavar instead of primo or winny? Anavar is a DHT too and combined with mast can easily cause shedding as well.
Is it "less likely" to cause shedding then the others?

also, primo is not a DHT derivative...it is a DHB derivative.

Winstrol and primo are MUCH more prone to causing hair loss than anavar... Its not even comparable


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[colorado1975]

please just forget about the hgh... you would need to be running that 6 months to a year and its just not necessary... primo would need to be ran 14-16 weeks... primo and winnie are both dht as is mast, so you would be risking some hair shedding running either of them with mast... if you don't care about that then run winstrol on the back... if you do care then run anavar and proviron...

Thanks Dylan! Your advice is always super appreciated. If the chance of shedding is less or shedding is less with Var, I will go that route should I make an addition. What do you suggest as far as dosage and duration for the Var and Proviron? I am not certain I am going to add anything yet as I think I may be letting my american 'more, more, more' mentality interfear with patience here. I want to not learn the hard way with everything so all advice is very valuable to me!

 

[colorado1975]

on this cycle, there is no need for hgh, especially since he just got done running it not long ago and with all the other shit that is being run, its fucking overkill...

DO NOT ADD NOLVA TO YOUR PCT... im sure you already know that bro...

I absolutely subscribe to your no nolva stance here....outside of all the science behind it, it simply makes me personally feel way too emmotional and simply depressed.

And I agree, for the second time now, on no HGH....I just get ignorant about it and seduce myself in to thinking about maybe adding it when I see a 7 month stash collecting dust! I know, really f*cking dumb reason to add or use anything in this area!

 

[colorado1975]

im just curious, are you running Tren E ED? or did you just write out the dosages by what it would be per day over the whole week....

because Tren E is a long ester and only needs to be pinned twice a week. your other injects can be EOD, no need for ED.

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Thanks for your feeback brother! As for pinning ED....I am one of the strange people out here that actually looks forward to pinning every day. I realize that I could be pinning the mast and test EOD and then the Tren 2x a week but I love the injection....maybe I have a pin cushion fetish or something!? To note, I actually am back on Tren a...I was led to believe that the tren a I had could be bunk as I was experiencing ZERO sides so I switched to tren e for 6 days...on my last cycle I experience the Tren e's sides within a few days...this time though, I didnt experience really any at all...really though, I believe it could be the masteron that is helping with the sides and I get all my gear from the same company and its all the same label...everything else I have ever purchased from them was legit so I am believing the tren a is as well.

 

[dylangemelli]

with anavar, you would run it 60 mg the first four weeks and then bump to 80 mg the last two weeks... proviron would be 75mg a day all six weeks... you need to run n2guard alongside them and lipid stabil would be another good option as well... i always like to polish a cycle with anavar or winstrol...

 

[ballslee]

im just curious, are you running Tren E ED? or did you just write out the dosages by what it would be per day over the whole week....

because Tren E is a long ester and only needs to be pinned twice a week. your other injects can be EOD, no need for ED.

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Thanks for your feeback brother! As for pinning ED....I am one of the strange people out here that actually looks forward to pinning every day. I realize that I could be pinning the mast and test EOD and then the Tren 2x a week but I love the injection....maybe I have a pin cushion fetish or something!? To note, I actually am back on Tren a...I was led to believe that the tren a I had could be bunk as I was experiencing ZERO sides so I switched to tren e for 6 days...on my last cycle I experience the Tren e's sides within a few days...this time though, I didnt experience really any at all...really though, I believe it could be the masteron that is helping with the sides and I get all my gear from the same company and its all the same label...everything else I have ever purchased from them was legit so I am believing the tren a is as well.

ya and then when your scar tissue builds up so much that it is painful to inject everywhere that you have been...what you gonna do?
i see the point in ED with tren but the others are unnecessary. Its your body man....