Cutting Cycle: Var & Primo (2nd Cycle) & ???

[mwweber21]

Friend is currently in the middle of his 1st cycle of 500 mg Test E week for 11 weeks. Hopes to be 5'11", 215-220 lbs. at 13-15% bf at end of cycle.

He's looking into planning a 2nd cycle, which will be a cutter. Will be about a 10 week cycle. Would like to run Primo at 300 mg/week for entire length of cycle. Would like to run anavar at 30-40 mg ED during final 6 weeks of cycle. What would be a good compound to kick-start the cycle...add during about the first 4 weeks. Should testosterone be used at a low dose throughout the cycle? He's not looking to add any muscle...just trying to retain as much muscle as possible while dropping calories low and doing large amounts of cardio.

By the way he is in his mid 20's and is pre-dispositioned to MPB, so he's looking for a cycle that won't be too hard on the hair-line. He told me he added finasteride @ 2.5 mg/day to his Test E cycle.

 

[bigmark1515]

Primo @ 300mgs/week is a waste, should be run at 600mg/week

 

[mwweber21]

Two questions: First will Primo at 600 mg/week be hard on the hair-line? Second, I understand 300 mg/week primo is low, but what if it's stacked with 30-40 mg anavar ED or testosterone? Can Primo and Testosterone be stacked? Primo, Test, and Var?

 

[bigmark1515]

Two questions: First will Primo at 600 mg/week be hard on the hair-line? Second, I understand 300 mg/week primo is low, but what if it's stacked with 30-40 mg anavar ED or testosterone? Can Primo and Testosterone be stacked? Primo, Test, and Var?

Anything can be stacked, why even run the primo if running it at that low dose?

 

[mwweber21]

Friend was thinking of using a low dose because he is just looking to hold onto muscle. Would 600 mg/week be much better for holding onto muscle?

 

[bigmark1515]

Hold on to muscle? What does that mean,Im confused.

 

[mwweber21]

Trying to maximize body fat lost and minimize muscle lost during a cut.

 

[mwweber21]

Anything can be stacked, why even run the primo if running it at that low dose?

Ok, from what I understand 600 mg/week primo is a fairly common stand alone cycle. Another stand-alone cycle that has been recommended on the board is 80 mg Anavar ED. Does that then mean if combining primo and anavar one could run 300 mg/week primo and 40 mg Var ED (half what one would use if running them alone)? Again, friend is 5'11", 215 lbs, and 13-15% bf.

 

[bigmark1515]

Are you sure you friend doesnt = YOU?
Concerning the dosages, NO, if your stacking things it doesnt mean take 1/2 what you would if ran alone.

 

[g35mann]

If he has a problem with hairloss then he should not do primo at 600mg.
For what he wants Primo at 300mg a week and var at 40-50mg a week is prime, run the var for 8 weeks instead of 6. That cycle is not a waste at all.

 

[solidspine]

Primo will not hurt your hair,

add test to the cycle

 

[bigmark1515]

If he has a problem with hairloss then he should not do primo at 600mg.
For what he wants Primo at 300mg a week and var at 40-50mg a week is prime, run the var for 8 weeks instead of 6. That cycle is not a waste at all.

I have to disagrre, running 300mgs/primo is a waste.

 

[mwweber21]

Ok, friend is trying to cut from 5'11", 215 lbs, @ 13-15% bf to about 7-8% bf. What about the following cycle:
Weeks 1-10: 300 mg Primo EW
Weeks 1-10: 200 mg Test E (or Cyp) EW
Weeks 5-10: 40 mg Anavar ED
Is this cycle alright? Would it be better to reduce to 8 weeks, but still run the anavar for the last 6 weeks? Should another anabolic be added (can't be too strong on the hairline)?
By the way, he's interested in tren as the base of his 3rd cycle, but he needs to investigate the potential side-effects further.

 

[bigmark1515]

The dosage on the test and primo are very low. I hate to tall you but none of those compounds are going to cut his BF% in half, diet and cardio

 

[mwweber21]

What do others think about the dosages? There is some disagreement.

He realizes diet and cardio is what's going to help him lose bf. He needs steroids to retain muscle. His body type is definently mesomorph.