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cutting cycle dilema!!!!

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guys can i plz get your educated opinions?
i am 30, 6ft5, 237lbs with about 20%bf
i have been training for about 10yrs now and due to injuries in the past my progress has always been derailed.

i am back in the gym more motivated and dedicated than ever before......
i am training 5 days a week.....and doing 45mins cardio 5x a week as well.

my goal is to get my bf down big time over the next 6 months:
i am working on a calorie resrticted diet for the new and plan on taking in around 2500 calories.......60pro/30car/10fat

i have read a lot of the posts so plz dont tell me its down to diet and cardio and the roids are for maintaining muscle......i do understand that.

i know that i dont have the ideal diet at present from what i was told in the diet forum so i wont bother boring you all with that.....!!!!!

now to my cycle dilema:

i have enough sus for 10weeks = taking 500mg a week
& winstrol depot around 700mg which i was going to take eod over 6weeks.
i know many think that winnie should be taken ed and i can do this as it is possible to get more.

my question to you is would you use the sus or would you change it for proprionate and if yes at what dosage would you take a week......next
would you change the winstrol or keep it or what would be a better alternative?
 
I can't help you in terms of a test recommendation, but I'd like to put in a good word for winstrol while on a restricted caloric intake.

I just finished a 6 week clen + winny cycle yesterday and was on a restricted caloric intake the whole time. I found that I not only didn't lose strength, but actually got a hell of a lot stronger. I've seen it written on other AAS boards that winny doesn't need to be "fed" like some other drugs and is good for cutting in this sense. I ran 50mg a day and ended up putting 50+ on some of my compound lifts. This was my first use of AAS so my results probably had something to do with this.

Good luck w/getting answers to your test question.
 
thanks zell959
i really appreciate the positive input.
can you tell me what sort of bf loss you sore over the 6 weeks?
 
Dammit people...there is no such thing as a "cutting" or "bulking" cycle
 
I have to say that's the one thing I'm kicking myself for. Not taking an accurate bodyfat measurement before I started. My own personal estimate is I lost about 20 pounds of fat and put on about 5 pounds of muscle. I was a little dissapointed with the clen, but I think I used too much ephedra when it was legal and my beta receptors were, I dunno, burned out a little. But the winny really pulled it's weight as I already mentioned.
 
Cycles results are 80-90% Diet driven.

Certain compounds willpromote heavy water retention - thus the name "bulk"


others do not promote ewtaer retention to the same extent.....




so.....if you want to get lean(via diet) and hit some gear for extra lbm gains then think about:

Fina
Winny
Var




...and yes - Winstrol should be an ED thing........via inject or oral
 
shadow.....can i bug you for your advice on diets and if you dont mind do you any good ones knocking about your files that i could get a peak at?
 
go to the women board.......stick on weekly diet plan....

I post up a daily deal
 
ok i will have a look shadow!!
that diet of diet cokes and nuts what is that about damn whooooooooa!
 
well......nuts are about the bst snack for between meals you can eat...I drink some diet cokes, ewhat can I say........I also get 1-2 gallons of water a day
 
i have been looking through those posts and shadow i really appreciate you pointing me in the right direction!!!!!!
what's your bf at the moment?
 
wow.........ok i gather from the look of the legs pic you must look awesome.........that didn't sound gay lol............. i have long way to go now but i am definately inspired!!!
shadow on that diet if yours how do you maintain it?
i mean i am in IT outsourcing and barely find the time to eat as well but i do try my best!!!!
 
thanks for the comments....I dont really splurge on diet at any time....i dont do cardio either....I saty bewteen 10-13% year round
 
ok now im very impressed!!!!!!!!
so as part of my cycle.........should i stack all 3 of your suggested gear and how much a week for the fina and var?
 
have you donwe nay of the three before??


what are your previous, if any, cuyle experioences?
 
previous was sus and dbol about 2yrs ago.
tried winnie but not long enough to see its full potential, not tried the other 2.
 
Fina - 50-75 mg ED OR EQ at 400-500 per week

Winny - 25-50 mg ED

Var - 30-40 mg ED

....all for 8-10 weeks
 
clomid for pct directly thereafter?
what sort of results can be expected over the 10 week period in terms of bf loss on a good diet?
 
yep......run nolvadex with it as well........WITH the clomid....clomid seems to bump estrogenlevels as well
 
no......just add the nolvadex when you add the clomid......none of the compunds can convert to estrogen
 
no...not at all.......clomid helps restore HPTA axis by increasing LH(among other things)
Nolvadex is an anti-estrogen
 
shadow will it be possible for me to give you my e-mail addy and keep in touch other than on the forum?
 
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