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Cutting cycle critique, what do you think?

Sterone

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Cutting cycle...

On the deca I'm maxing at about 2mg per lb of bodyweight which is the recommended optimal dosage. I'm 5'9" and weigh about 200 with about 35 lbs of fat to loose. I know I will grow muscle on this cycle. Deca dick isn't a huge concern as long as it's only temporary. However I do not want my balls to shrink too much even if it is only temporary. Also I know that if I treat my scalp right I will have a full head of hair for the next 30 years at least, so I don't want excessive DHT. What do you think about the test dosage? That's all I have so I thought I might as well throw it in. How much of it generally converts to DHT at that dosage, in the presence of the recommended optimal dosage of deca that I will be using? Also what about estrogen conversion in said environment? Is Nolvadex necessary?
Thanks.

.............Deca........T3......SPA Anavar......Test-.........Clomid.....HCG...
...........................................................Enanthate.............................
wk 1....200mg...10-20mcg................................................................
wk 2....200mg...40mcg.....................................................................
wk 3....300mg...60mcg.....................................................................
wk 4....300mg...40mcg.....................................................................
wk 5....400mg...10-20mcg.......................200mg...................2000iu's
wk 6....400mg........................................200mg...............................
wk 7....400mg........................................200mg..................2000iu's
wk 8....400mg........................................200mg................................
wk 9....400mg........................................200mg..................2000iu's
wk 10..400mg........................................200mg................................
wk 11..400mg...10-20mcg...................................................2000iu's
wk 12..400mg...40mcg.....................................................................
wk 13..300mg...60mcg........................................................2000iu's
wk 14..300mg...40mcg.....................................................................
wk 15..............10-20mcg................................................................
wk 16...............................................................................................
wk 17..................................20mg....................................................
wk 18..................................20mg..........................100mg................
wk 19..................................20mg...........................50mg.................
wk 20..................................20mg...........................50mg.................
wk 21..................................20mg....................................................
wk 22..................................20mg....................................................
 
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Here are some things that stick out for me. Dont pyramid deca, just pick a dose and stick with it start to finish. 6 weeks is a bit short for enth. The anavar WILL prevent your HPTA from normalizing. 14 weeks is a bit on the long side.
 
Thanks Zyglamail. I could stretch out the enanthate. 14 weeks is long for deca? why? Could the deca dick become permanent? I could shorten the deca to 10 or 12 weeks. Ok, I have read all over that 20mg per day of anavar will not interfere with HPTA. And some have posted cycles like mine with avanar at the end, during and after the clomid. Why won't this work? Should I lower the anavar to 15mg per day?
 
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14 weeks is long for any cycle unless your a competitor, but if ya were, you likely wouldnt be asking these questions here. SO if you are a recreational lifter/juicer cycles longer rhan 12 weeks generaly make restoring your hpta a bit troublesome.

Your second run of T3 prolly shouldt go that far out past deca but since your dose is fairly low it may not be a problem.

As for the var and 20mg not being a problem, show me a clinical study where it shows anavar will not hamper hpta at that dose and I will believe you. All I have seen is various drug profile sites and a few other claiming this with no proof to back it up. There is a abstract I have posted many times which has shown as little as 2.5mg/ed to affect hpta and until someone can she me otherwise I firmly believe it will keep you suppressed at 20mg. So basically put, using the anavar stretches your cycle to 20 weeks and the clomid is wasted.
 
Zyglamail said:
14 weeks is long for any cycle unless your a competitor, but if ya were, you likely wouldnt be asking these questions here.
SO if you are a recreational lifter/juicer
That is correct.
Zyglamail said:
cycles longer than 12 weeks generaly make restoring your hpta a bit troublesome.
Interesting, I didn't know that. So around the 12 week mark it starts to become more likely that HPTA restoration may take significantly longer than it would have if the cycle had ended a few days earlier? If that's the case then I'll shorten the cycle. But how short should it be? would think that since the deca stays in the system for 3 weeks that the deca phase should only last 9 weeks?
Zyglamail said:
There is a abstract I have posted many times which has shown as little as 2.5mg/ed to affect hpta... So basically put, using the anavar stretches your cycle to 20 weeks and the clomid is wasted.
IC, well if that's the case then I'll just use the var during the deca phase.

Here is a new cycle, should I shorten the deca phase from 10 weeks to 9 weeks? Also what about the Anavar, how long does it continue to affect HPTA levels after discontinuing use?


.............Deca........T3......SPA Anavar......Test-........Clomid...HCG...
...........................................................Enanthate..........................
.....................................................................................................
wk 1....400mg...10-20mcg............................................................
wk 2....400mg...40mcg...........................150mg..............2000iu's
wk 3....400mg...40mcg...........................150mg...........................
wk 4....400mg...10-20mcg......................150mg...............2000iu's
wk 5....400mg......................................150mg..............................
wk 6....400mg........................20mg.......150mg...............2000iu's
wk 7....400mg........................20mg.......150mg............................
wk 8....400mg........................20mg.......150mg...............2000iu's
wk 9....400mg...10-20mcg........20mg.......150mg..........................
wk 10..400mg...40mcg.............20mg...............................2000iu's
wk 11..............60mcg..........20mg................................................
wk 12..............40mcg...................................................................
wk 13..............10-20mcg..............................................................
wk 14...................................................................100mg..............
wk 15....................................................................50mg...............
wk 16....................................................................50mg...............
 
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