Cutting cycle 8 weeks out

[Tkc0mand3r]

Alright, I am 95% positive I'm going to do a competition finally and I wanted to make sure my cutting cycle was mastered because I do have a lot of fat to cut. I'm 21 years old 5'11 226lbs and around 15% bf (I know high for 8 weeks but its a test run). I'm doing 30 minutes morning cardio everyday and 30 minutes post-workout which I train 5 days a week. My diet is protein = bodyweight, moderate carbs (150-300g) and never eating direct fat sources (pb, almonds). Well here it goes, I really want to expect good fat loss and keep my size if not harden up and put some more muscle on as well.

Weeks 1-8 250mg/week Sust 250
Clen 20mcg 2 weeks on/2 weeks off
Epistane 20mg ED last 4 weeks

I've been cutting fat for about 6 weeks now with just sust 250mg a week. I need to cut a lot more, but I'm also a college student so I need the energy to study so I tend to eat more carbs then I should. Should I throw in OxyElitePro so I have the energy to go about my day?

Thanks for any help guys I really appreciate it!

 

[TheRippedReverend]

Alright, I am 95% positive I'm going to do a competition finally and I wanted to make sure my cutting cycle was mastered because I do have a lot of fat to cut. I'm 21 years old 5'11 226lbs and around 15% bf (I know high for 8 weeks but its a test run). I'm doing 30 minutes morning cardio everyday and 30 minutes post-workout which I train 5 days a week. My diet is protein = bodyweight, moderate carbs (150-300g) and never eating direct fat sources (pb, almonds). Well here it goes, I really want to expect good fat loss and keep my size if not harden up and put some more muscle on as well.

Weeks 1-8 250mg/week Sust 250
Clen 20mcg 2 weeks on/2 weeks off
Epistane 20mg ED last 4 weeks

I've been cutting fat for about 6 weeks now with just sust 250mg a week. I need to cut a lot more, but I'm also a college student so I need the energy to study so I tend to eat more carbs then I should. Should I throw in OxyElitePro so I have the energy to go about my day?

Thanks for any help guys I really appreciate it!

Whens your comp? I wouldnt compete unless i was 4-6% imo your diet will take more than what you got imo id drop clen. Dont think the stack is that great imo

Oxy im about to try it so cant speak for it sorry but everyone is ramping about it.

21 man I just dissagree with sm1 using at that age cause full of test natty but your not asking for critigue so...

I cant tell you a stack for comp bc i have no clue when it is. I will say this id drop clen and just run the oxy id throw in mastron as soon as u get down to 8-11% bf epi not sure id think katana or var would be better. I would of ran prop instead of sus but thats me.

For comp bit im way advanced id:

T prop
Var
Tren a
Mas p
T3
Forged burner
N2slin or oxy

All my natty supps with 80gram carb max depending on weight when getting close to comp start muniulating carbs. Theres just too much bro goal weight ect..... At 226-5"11 i more less bet you 16-20%bf unless u measured on 9 point wouldnt be doning 3 points or any of that comp they look at all.... Post some pics put full diet up so members can better help you

 

[johnnyboy3689282]

I wouldnt run Clen without running T3... Have you had your BF done with skin fold calipers? What is your diet like in detail? Whats your cycle experience? Whats your pct? What ancillaries are you running? Your 8 weeks out bro, i dont think there is enough time... You need to dial in your diet asap, and have plenty of good supps...

 

[johnnyboy3689282]

I prefer pro xanthine-500 by finaflex. or Lips 6 ultra Concentrated.... Oxy elites dont do much for me....

 

[RADAR]

You're not going to win ,why? because you don't have a good foundation.


The good part about competing against yourself is that you control your own grade. You aren't being judged relative to others and it's truly about doing the absolute best you can.

The bad part about competing against yourself is that you control your own grade. You can't suck up to a teacher or cheat off your friend. You can't bullshit the weights.

But while the grading scale is different, the formula is the same. There will always be the outliers that can get away with eating whatever they want and still be ripped, or those who can put on muscle just walking past a squat rack, but generally the hardest workers see the best results.

Getting stronger doesn't take a whole lot of innate talent or athletic ability. What it does take is tons of dedication and commitment. It's an endless journey with no off-season, so you better learn to trust in the process and hunker down for the long haul because big results won't happen overnight.

I weighed a whopping 122 pounds when I started seriously lifting weights.
Looking at me then, you certainly wouldn't have predicted big things from me in the weight room. I didn't even predict big things from myself. But really, what's the alternative? Not lift and stay weak? No thanks.

Furthermore, you never know what your true limits are until you push yourself beyond your comfort zone and test them.

I started learning more about training and nutrition and getting after it in the gym with everything I had. I've made plenty of mistakes along the way, but they've never been from lack of effort.

I remember a stint early on where I lifted 60 consecutive days in a row. These weren't easy sessions either. I'm talking 3-4-hour ball busters where I left looking like I'd just hopped in the shower with my clothes on.

Was it the smartest thing in the world? Probably not, but at least I was trying. If I had it to do it over, I wouldn't change a thing. I probably sacrificed 1-2 pounds of muscle from overtraining a little bit at the time, but it helped instill a mental toughness and drive in me that has paid far greater dividends.

I've also eaten 5-8 meals a day – every day – making sure that each meal contains a good amount of protein.

Let's low-ball it and assume six meals a day.

(6 good meals/day) x (365 days/year) x (8 years) = 17,520 good meals

25,000 chin-ups and 17,520 good meals later and my genetics suddenly seem a whole lot better.

Funny how that works.If you'd told me eight years ago I'd be where I am today, I'd have said you were crazy. So would anyone else that knew me then. My numbers back then was child's play for some people, but it's not about that. It's about maximizing what you've got.

I'll say this: I've never met anyone that trains harder than I do.

When you look around at the most successful people in the iron game, you'll see all sorts of different training programs and diets.

Some do better with a lower volume approach while others prefer higher volume. Some like total body training while others use bodypart splits. Some eat breakfast and some don't. You get my point.

The one common denominator amongst the successful ones is that they've found what works for them and they stick with it for a long time.

One of my biggest mentors is a guy named Dave Draper, known in the gym simply as "Mr Olympia" ,he still competes in powerlifting, and regularly shows up dudes half his age.

In the time I've known him, I don't think I've seen him miss a single planned workout. The guy's a Monster and he know it!

When you look around at the most successful people in the iron game, you'll see all sorts of different training programs and diets.

Some do better with a lower volume approach while others prefer higher volume. Some like total body training while others use bodypart splits. Some eat breakfast and some don't. You get my point.



So you gotta pay your dues and not just decide one day "I'm gonna compete"

 

[Tkc0mand3r]

Wow! Great responses, special thanks to that Radar. I'm wasn't really anticipating winning but now I will wait longer. I still want to use these 8 weeks as a trial run to know for next year or sooner how long to diet. Here is my daily diet on a training day and staple supps.

Keep in mind I'm away at college with only a microwave/fridge and the meal timing is basically around my classes and studying schedule

Wake up: 20mcg clen 30 minute cardio
Meal #1: 1 cup egg whites, 1 cup oats
2 opti-men, 2 fish oil, 2 CLA, 10mg Epistane, Milk thistle
Meal #2: Zero Impact Bar, 1 piece fruit
BCAA's while training - 1 hour weights, 30 minute cardio
Meal #3: Post-workout 2 scoop whey shake, 1 piece fruit
Meal #4: 6 oz. grilled chicken, 1 cup rice, 1 cup veggies
10mg Epistane
Meal #5: 6 oz. oz chicken or beef, 2 pieces whole wheat bread (I make it like a sandwich), 1 cup veggies
Meal #6: 2 scoop whey or if I have casein with 8 oz. skim milk

With sust 250 1cc a week, gallon or more of water each day and coke zero with most meals. Its not my ideal diet but what I can get my hands on.

Let me know if you think I will lose an adequate amount of fat to atleast look good for the summer or what I can tweak, forget the comp for now! Thanks everyone!

 

[RADAR]

Wow! Great responses, special thanks to that Radar. I'm wasn't really anticipating winning but now I will wait longer. I still want to use these 8 weeks as a trial run to know for next year or sooner how long to diet. Here is my daily diet on a training day and staple supps.

Keep in mind I'm away at college with only a microwave/fridge and the meal timing is basically around my classes and studying schedule

Wake up: 20mcg clen 30 minute cardio
Meal #1: 1 cup egg whites, 1 cup oats
2 opti-men, 2 fish oil, 2 CLA, 10mg Epistane, Milk thistle
Meal #2: Zero Impact Bar, 1 piece fruit
BCAA's while training - 1 hour weights, 30 minute cardio
Meal #3: Post-workout 2 scoop whey shake, 1 piece fruit
Meal #4: 6 oz. grilled chicken, 1 cup rice, 1 cup veggies
10mg Epistane
Meal #5: 6 oz. oz chicken or beef, 2 pieces whole wheat bread (I make it like a sandwich), 1 cup veggies
Meal #6: 2 scoop whey or if I have casein with 8 oz. skim milk

With sust 250 1cc a week, gallon or more of water each day and coke zero with most meals. Its not my ideal diet but what I can get my hands on.

Let me know if you think I will lose an adequate amount of fat to atleast look good for the summer or what I can tweak, forget the comp for now! Thanks everyone!

I cannot tell you how much you will gain or loose becase your BMR plays a big role in that ,all i can say i keep switching up routines until you get to where you're going ,as far as diet, read this.

http://www.elitefitness.com/forum/a...-build-muscle-loose-fat-then-read-712503.html