cuttin cycle to begin. test p to start and then c?

[SOLID2]

hey all. just about to start my cutter. i have bulked quite well with test e deca and a 50's.. saw alot of gain and little bloat nor water , believe it or not. i did put some winnie in the mix toward the end as well and saw most of the bloat/fat go away.. going into a cutter now and wondering if i can start with test p 1oo eod and then in week 3 go to test c. i have primo depot 200 tren depot 200 that i am going to run with it. cycle looks like this. i have never run these 2 before.

test p 100mg eod wks 1-3
test c 500mg ew wks 3-10
tren 200mg ew wks 1-10
primo 200mg ew wks 1-10
anavar 50 mg ed wks 1-10
winstrol 25mg ed wks 1-10
masteron 100 ? i have it available as well.

i have pct in order and ready as usual. the diet is spot on and working already. this will be my 9th cycle and most compounds used together. just being honest i really dont much on the tren, primo gear. i am open to change from those with experience in these compounds. i would love to come out of this one really cut and hard.. i am up for another photo shoot in march and need to be hard and cut for this one. i am about 10 % bf maybe less.. just a guess there. 220 pounds, 6'1 tall. flame if you must, but i just really need some help here..

 

[BigBlu]

In my opinion that's too much gear. Why not just use Tren, Test and Winny? From my research it seems to be the most syngergistic and radical body transformation stack there is. No need for Primo, Anavar and Masteron aswell.

 

[SOLID2]

In my opinion that's too much gear. Why not just use trenbolone, Test and Winstrol - stanozolol? From my research it seems to be the most syngergistic and radical body transformation stack there is. No need for Primobolan - methenolone - , Anavar and Masteron aswell.

thanks bigblu. i do need some advice on this matter. my cycles have always been simple bread and butter types. mostly bulking cycles. would you recomend the 200 /wk test ? winstrol @ 50 or 100..

 

[BigBlu]

thanks bigblu. i do need some advice on this matter. my cycles have always been simple bread and butter types. mostly bulking cycles. would you recomend the 200 /wk test ? winstrol @ 50 or 100..

No worries brother. Are you using Winstrol Depot or tablets? I would use 50mg ED of the Depot if you have it. A Tren/Winny/Test Prop will do wonders for your physique. It will harden you up, increase your vascularity and help reduce your bodyfat levels.

In terms of which testosterone ester to use is personal preference. I love propionate, because of the quick effect, low water retention and increased sex drive. I find these effects to be much more prominent with Prop than the other esters like Cypionate. On cycle, I use 100mg EOD to a total of 300mg to 400mg per week. I don't see any point in going higher because of the other powerful drugs on board. More is not always better.

Have fun!

 

[SOLID2]

No worries brother. Are you using Winstrol Depot or tablets? I would use 50mg ED of the Depot if you have it. A trenbolone/Winstrol - stanozolol/Test testosterone propionate will do wonders for your physique. It will harden you up, increase your vascularity and help reduce your bodyfat levels.

In terms of which testosterone ester to use is personal preference. I love propionate, because of the quick effect, low water retention and increased sex drive. I find these effects to be much more prominent with Prop than the other esters like Cypionate. On cycle, I use 100mg EOD to a total of 300mg to 400mg per week. I don't see any point in going higher because of the other powerful drugs on board. More is not always better.

Have fun!

i am using the tablet form of winstrol. that sounds good. i will start the test p today as well as the tren shot. 2 ccs mixed in the syringe should be good correct? my winnie tabs are 25mg, so i will do one tonight as well. i just hate to start the eod shots but i want to try the test p for sure. would you split the tren shot into 2 shots per week at 100 mg each or just 1 shot of 200mg per week?

 

[eddymerckx]

do you want a pure cutter or more of a lean mass cycle?

 

[jumpmaster82]

i dont quite understand. i gather from the post that you wana nuse prop for 3 weeks then start test cyp. start them at the same time, run the prop for 4 weeks. that way by the time you cut the prop youll be feeling the cyp.

 

[SOLID2]

i dont quite understand. i gather from the post that you wana nuse testosterone propionate for 3 weeks then start test testosterone cypionate. start them at the same time, run the testosterone propionate for 4 weeks. that way by the time you cut the testosterone propionate youll be feeling the testosterone cypionate.

ok.. i am looking for the lean mass builder cycle that will harden up nicely as well eddy... "forgot the rest of it".. i can go 4 weeks on the test p and c together.. how would you suggest running them shot wise and dosage? i am used to the 250 on sun and 250 on wed. of the c. do i continue this along with where the p hits on eod of 100mg?

 

[eddymerckx]

ok.. i am looking for the lean mass builder cycle that will harden up nicely as well eddy... "forgot the rest of it".. i can go 4 weeks on the test p and c together.. how would you suggest running them shot wise and dosage? i am used to the 250 on sun and 250 on wed. of the c. do i continue this along with where the p hits on eod of 100mg?

my logic: i like test testosterone propionate at the begining and end of a lean mass cycle as the longer ester wanes, the testosterone propionate fills in nicely and buffers the discontinuation of the trenbolone.

I have not run this cycle with the trenbolone (asthma so it a no no), but i have run one very close with equipoise and w/o the Winstrol - stanozolol (kills my joints) and i used proviron instead of mast b/c of availability (and to keep libido and swimmers happy)


Weeks 1 - 3 75-100 test testosterone propionate e/o/d
Weeks 10-12

Weeks 1 - 10 little less than 500 test cyp week (250 every 4th day)
Weeks 1 - 10: 200mg of Tren e/w

Weeks 1-6 30-50 of Anavar e/d

Weeks 6 - 10: 50mg of Masteron e/d
Week 8 - 12: 25mg of Winstrol - stanozolol e/d


and save the primo for (a late spring) calorie deficient diet or use a lot more.

 

[jumpmaster82]

ok.. i am looking for the lean mass builder cycle that will harden up nicely as well eddy... "forgot the rest of it".. i can go 4 weeks on the test p and c together.. how would you suggest running them shot wise and dosage? i am used to the 250 on sun and 250 on wed. of the c. do i continue this along with where the p hits on eod of 100mg?

ok bro, run the test p the first 4, run the test c from day one. it makes no difference that they are both testosterones. the test p is just your kickstart so you feel something almost immediately, just like if you took dbol or abombs. so use it the same way. your inj schedule doesnt really matter as long as you inj the prop at least EOD.