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crystals in my prop....

lefler

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just recieved some test prop and it looks like there are thin sliver-like crystals in it. is this prop ruined??

its golden triangle 200mg/ml

ill try and get some pictures up once i get back home

thanks guys
 
The prop just crystallized out b/c of the high concentration. Heat it up and they should redisolve. 200mg/ml prop is probably gonna hurt like a bitch though!
 
Lowest said:
The prop just crystallized out b/c of the high concentration. Heat it up and they should redisolve. 200mg/ml prop is probably gonna hurt like a bitch though!


lol thanks bro... it does hurt like hell
 
any ideas for a safe heating method?

i figured id heat some water slowly in a pot with the vial in it....
 
lefler said:
any ideas for a safe heating method?

i figured id heat some water slowly in a pot with the vial in it....

You can melt the vial that way.... if you leave it at the buttom.... I'd just put it under a hot foset .... or in boiled water.
 
I had this exact same problem.

Preheat oven at 250 degrees. Put the bottle in for 15 minutes. NO PIN IN STOPPER IS NECESSARY FOR THIS PERTICULAR PROCESS.

Pull it out, shake the hell out of it, and let it cool (don't run under any water to cool, or vial could crack)

Putting a pin in the will cause a hole to stay in the stopper when you pull it out. Then it will leak when you turn the vial over. It is only necessary to put the pin in when doing the 3 step procedure to remove bake out any bacteria.
 
lefler said:
worked like a charm! thanks guys


Looks like everyone else has chimed in. I had the same prob w/some amps a while back. Almost looked like glass in there. I let the soak in warm water and it dissolved. Ironically it was 200mg amps as well... and yes, not the most comfortable shot!
 
Excidium28 said:
Does all prop hurt like hell??? Would heating it up before injectiong help out at all?

i always put my prop and winny under the faucet with hot water it helps it go thru smoother however i dont think its any easier on the pain
 
Heating it won't help the pain from the gear itself, though it might help ease the injection itself. Not all prop hurts, it can be made painless. Most vet or human-grade prop hurts though, it's mostly UG and homebrew versions with less BA that are painless. I make prop at up to 150mg/ml without much pain by itself, and painless mixed with other gear. 200mg/ml always hurts though, at least when I've made it.
 
oh yeah most prop is gonna hurt like all hell but its worth it IMO. the 200mg/ml gave me a nice little fever the first few times to. but in the end i grew real nice. i was shooting glute, glute, quad, quad rotation. tried in once in the shoulder and couldnt even see the seperation beetween my shoulder and bi/tri. worst pain ever! ill stick to the quads and glutes from now on....
 
I did sustanon 500 ew... and on the beganing it hurt like hell, sometimes so bad i needed help getting up from the bench. After like the 5th shot there was almost no pain. I wanna try prop but if the pain is as bad as with sustanon especialy with frequent injections fuk that.
 
is there any way to take the prop i have and make it less painfull? like add some oil or whatnot.....worth asking i guess
 
lefler said:
is there any way to take the prop i have and make it less painfull? like add some oil or whatnot.....worth asking i guess

is prop water based? .... if not you could mix it with a lil deca that should help out. I would think heating up the oil before injectiong would help but guess not.
 
1) I just got some NPP which looks thick/sludgey/cloudy and some small round crystals. I assume this is the same situation, and I can just heat it up?

2) is there any appearence clue as to whether the contents is contaminated by bacteria ? (since its from an UG lab theres always extra concern even tho its from a reputable lab)

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lefler said:
is there any way to take the prop i have and make it less painfull? like add some oil or whatnot.....worth asking i guess
you could try adding some b-12 and make sure you heat the oil first
and massage the area for a few minutes after shot
 
tattoofever said:
you could try adding some b-12 and make sure you heat the oil first
and massage the area for a few minutes after shot

ummm......


I wouldnt do that


B12 is water based.......
 
The Shadow said:
ummm......


I wouldnt do that


B12 is water based.......
done it with no problems mixing water and oil isn't that much of a big deal
to me atleast i know everybody does there own thing ,mix test and winny all the time
 
Sludgy/crystals do not mean there is any bacterial contamination.

It happens when low amounts of BA are used in products. It also is more likely to happen with stuff like high dosed Cypionate and short esters like Prop and NPP

I just set in on a warm (medium heat) frying pan and swirl/and shake. It usually takes 1 minute to get back into solution. It happens often during the winter season.
 
tattoofever said:
done it with no problems mixing water and oil isn't that much of a big deal
to me atleast i know everybody does there own thing ,mix test and winny all the time

well...they wont mix...thats the thing...and when you inject it, the oil will float on top of the water, so there will be a slight pressure differential when interface of the two hits the pin...

thats assuning a vertical (down) injection



the opposite would be true for tri site injection form the bottom of the arm
 
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