ouch!!! Lex, I don't those guys are trying to compete with sport bikes. Let's be fair, cruisers are about style and comfort while sport bikes are about "pure" performance. I'll admit that I find it a "tad" ridiculous to see somebody drop 20g's on a bike and dam near that much or more on performace mods. That's why I have an affinity for the japanese cruisers like the magna/valkyrie/vtx1800. I personally have the magna, and by this time next year, for less than $1500, I should be at least "approaching" some of the sport bike 1/4 times.......I already do 12 flat, which for a cruiser is pretty good. I have to say though about Harleys, the Vrod might be changing my mind about them. Harley is FINALLY starting to make musclebikes which rock completely stock. I just wish they would have gone with a 4 instead of juicing up a twin, they could have gotten the same performance and been able to lower the price of the bike......even though at 17g's it's really not that bad for a hog.