Critique this pct if you will

[Mikus]

Hey all, i want to insure a proper recovery, and compiling some info i've been reading on this board, i've came up with a pct that i'd like to have you experts critique if possible.

Format is in excel.

Thanks, MIke

 

[bw1]

Drjmw has a thread posted called recovery. You might want to check that out

 

[Mikus]

Thanks for the tip. I went through, and taking a page from drjmw, i edited my worksheet to show the changes. Whatchya think now?

Mike

 

[Mikus]

Also, would it be unbeneficial for me to run 20mg nolva ed instead of the 10mg ed? I dont want to inhibit gains too much, but i'd like to keep estrogen to a minimal for gyno reasons.

Mike

 

[bw1]

Also, would it be unbeneficial for me to run 20mg nolva ed instead of the 10mg ed? I dont want to inhibit gains too much, but i'd like to keep estrogen to a minimal for gyno reasons.

Mike

Mikus, I have been under the impression that nolva should not be ran during a cycle unless signs of gyno appear. There are better options during a cycle for the reasons you have listed. Is this your first cycle? If it is Jenetic has posted some very good info on putting a test only cycle togther, maximizing gains while limiting sides. Not sure on what extent the d-bol would impact this. Hopefully you can get Jenetic to help you with that option. Here is his post:

Before begining anything, have your blood work performed to establish baseline values. This will be important and highly beneficial for later comparisions. Also, it will give you an idea if prolactin is currently an issue.

Ideally, a combination of 500 mgs Testosterone per week, 6.25 mgs Aromasin EOD and .5 mg Finasteride ED for a total of 8 weeks should provide you optimal Anabolic/Androgenic effects while minimizing Estrogen and DHT related sides.

Aromasin will prevent estrogen associated side effects such as gynecomastia and water retention by deactivating the P450 Aromatase resposible for the aromatization of testosterone to estrogen. Also, Aromasin has minimal to zero impact on your lipid profile and IGF-1 levels when used for short durations. Arimidex would be your second option due to it's price but it should be known that it does surpress IGF-1 levels. Nolvadex should be your last option due to the fact that it can severely inhibits gains, especially on a test cycle. Nolvadex is best suited to treat a pre-exhisting case of gynecomastia. It has no impact on circulating Estrogen levels.

Finasteride prevents the metabolism of DHT via the 5AR. This will minimize DHT related side effects such as hair loss and acne. Also, it will keep the prostate healthy. A dosage of .5 mg ED should be sufficient without affecting libido and strength on a 500 mg Testosterone cycle.

PCT will begin one week after your last testosterone injection and will consist of 1000 IU's HCG 3x/wk (mon/wed/fri) in conjunction with 20 mgs Nolvadex ED for a total of 3 weeks followed by blood work to evaluate your recovery.

 

[Mikus]

Well i have done a lot of research on this, but apparently i haven't done enough. Thanks for the headsup.

Is aromasin considered a research chemical readily obtainable from a research site?

Otherwise i might have to go with arimidex, but what's the dosing on that?


Mike

 

[Jenetic]

First off, I would limit the cycle to 8 weeks.

I would recommend using 1 mg Arimidex ED during the cycle. Testosterone by itself should yeild excellent results. If you are insistent on running the Dbol, 30 mgs ED will give you plenty of mileage.

The duration of your PCT is too long and unecessary. 1000 IU's HCG 3x/wk (mon/wed/fri) in combination with 20 mgs Nolvadex ED for a total of 3 weeks. Then continue it with 50 mgs Clomid ED in combination with 20 mgs of Nolvadex ED for an additional 2 weeks.

Jenetic

 

[Mikus]

First off, I would limit the cycle to 8 weeks.

I would recommend using 1 mg Arimidex ED during the cycle. Testosterone by itself should yeild excellent results. If you are insistent on running the Dbol, 30 mgs ED will give you plenty of mileage.

The duration of your PCT is too long and unecessary. 1000 IU's HCG 3x/wk (mon/wed/fri) in combination with 20 mgs Nolvadex ED for a total of 3 weeks. Then continue it with 50 mgs Clomid ED in combination with 20 mgs of Nolvadex ED for an additional 2 weeks.

Jenetic

Thanks a bunch for the feedback, as i was mainly looking for an educated response, and both of you guys have given me quality feedback. I'm going to rethink everything, and come up with something new and use some of the things you guys have discussed here.

Thanks again, Mike

 

[Mikus]

Also jenetic, do you recommend the finastride as well? I'm fairly conscious about my hair, so limiting dht conversion would be beneficial in this way, but what about hindering gains?

Mike

 

[Jenetic]

A dosage of 0.5 mg ED should be sufficient in minimizing DHT related side effects without affecting libido and strength on a 500 mg Testosterone cycle.

Jenetic

 

[Mikus]

Thanks a bunch for all the help. K to you both

Mike