Critique this cycle

[jubei]

Looking at the gear in front of me (which is quite substantial), I was wondering if this looks like a good cycle. Hoping to gain and keep 15-20lbs of muscle. I weigh 185lbs, and am 5'10. 5% body fat. This will be my second cycle.

Week 1-9 sustanon 250: 250mg every four days
Week 1-9 test propionate: 100mg per week: 50mg 2x a week(alternating beetween sust shots to make better use of the prop)
Week 1-3 dianabol: 25mg every day
Week 6-9 omega tren*: 75mg every other day
Week 9-12 test propionate: 350 mg per week

Protien intake @ 500grams per day
No cardio
Training: 1.5 hours a day/ 6 days a week

Nolvadex 10mg every day from start of week 3 to 3 weeks after the cycle is finished.
HCG 1000 I.U. 2x a week on weeks 3,5,7,10,12 for a total of 10,000 I.U.
Clenbuteral 1mg per day starting at week 11 for 8 weeks
Kynoselen 10 ml/week starting week 10 for 10 weeks

I know it is complicated, but I hope it should work.

 

[sausage]

looks good to me i like the idea of throwing the prop in with the sust to make use of the prop in the sus,but i would raise the dbol to 35mg's a day.

 

[khemix]

your prop dosages are kind of strange. I don't know how well your body reacts but thats an extremely low dose. Most people do roughly 50-100mg/ed since its such a short acting ester. But yes, i liek the way you planned it out and took everything into consideration. Your cycle loosk pretty good and well planned out, i'll give you propr for that.

Chris

 

[Mr.Holland]

Don't wanna be an asshole or so..
But your cycle looks like shit!
Why that strange dosages of prop? And why stacking an long acting test with a short acting test whole cycle trough? And why run prop after the tren?
looks kind a strange to me... but maybe it works for you.

 

[REDMACHINE]

how about this

1-3 dbol 25
1-9 sust 250 e4d
1-9 prop 50 between
8-12 tren 75 eod
10-12 prop 100 eod
clomid

Just a sugg. I am planning a similar cycle with winny 8-12

 

[Johnny Cut]

this
1-10 test 250mg e4d
1-4 25mg dbol
11-12 test prop 350mg
8-16 Tren 150 EOD or 75 ED

 

[jubei]

Mr. Holland. The reason fo aadding in the "wierd" prop dosages is to make use of the prop that is in sustanon. By supplementing the existing amount of prop, I can make the best use of it, rather than basically wasting it because it is not being injected frequently enough. Don't worry you don't look like an asshole, just ignorant. J/K

The reason to use the prop near the end is so my recovery period is unhindered by any lingering long acting testosterone esters(such as decanoate which is present in sust. The reason for using Fina in the middle, is that I don't want fina to be in my system when there is not test to stimulate my sex drive. This should also help to solidify gains made earlier in the cycle.

 

[SmooThy5464]

this
1-10 test 250mg e4d
1-4 25mg dbol
11-12 test prop 350mg
8-16 Tren 150 EOD or 75 ED

agreed...

this looks alot more realistic to me

 

[jubei]

I respect your opinions but, are you guys nuts? A 16 week cycle seems a bit long. Also ending with tren and no test? Don't think floppycock is my thing.

 

[Mr.Holland]

Mr. Holland. The reason fo aadding in the "wierd" prop dosages is to make use of the prop that is in sustanon. By supplementing the existing amount of prop, I can make the best use of it, rather than basically wasting it because it is not being injected frequently enough. Don't worry you don't look like an asshole, just ignorant. J/K

The reason to use the prop near the end is so my recovery period is unhindered by any lingering long acting testosterone esters(such as decanoate which is present in sust. The reason for using Fina in the middle, is that I don't want fina to be in my system when there is not test to stimulate my sex drive. This should also help to solidify gains made earlier in the cycle.

Well Jubei... the reason why you don't want to end with fina i understand. But who's ignorent here... MAKING USE OF THE PROP??? You don't make use of the prop. You make use of test. Propionate is just a kind of esther. So injecting th two together is useless. The only reason why you should combine those two compounds is when (if you use prop. in the beginning) you want some fast gains or (when you use it at the end) you want to solidify the gains, without water retantion.
Im serious, it is useless to stack those two in the way you want to do it. Higher your sus dose, en run the virormone at the end.
Good luck

 

[FatFinaHead]

Nicely said Mr. Holland.
Karma to ya!

 

[jubei]

Holland, you need to slow down the typing and speed up the mental calculations a little. You asked why and I explained it to you. It is not "useless" to add prop to sust. You will achieve a more stable level of test in your system that way. Sorry you can't follow. Yes I know propionate is a ester, and not the active ingredient, it also contains 3 carbon atoms. And since you are an expert, I'm sure you know that it should be injected eod!!


Fina your pathetic geek. Get a life cheese dick. No wonder nobody likes you.

 

[FatFinaHead]

Feeble words for a feeble mind.
By the way, before you correct my grammar. You might want to take a look at the last 3 sentences you wrote.
One more thing, you really need to get over this complex or whatever it is eating at that empty space sitting on your shoulders.

Last but not least. I really don't even remember addressing you. All I did was commend Mr. Holland for a post well done. Sorry if that offended you. You really need to lighten up on the sauce bro. A little rehab may do you some good. Dude, you take offense to post that are not even addressed to you.
1 word that describes you best........SIMPLETON!

 

[jubei]

Well, there is nothing wrong with my grammar in the last 3 sentences, except I should have included a comma: Fina, your pathetic geek. There. And holland if you would look at the cycle I had d-bol @25mg ed for the first 3 weeks so I'm not trying to front load. Since all Holland did was talk shit, I don't know what you are applauding about his thread.

 

[Mr.Holland]

Talk shit???
who's talkin shit here!!!

I only reacted on your thread.. hopin i could help a little..
I really wonder why you placed the thread, because your the fuckin expert here... You don't need help from anybody.. am i wright. You're the pro!

Get a life and don't get so offended when some people criticize you, only to help you...
So here's some real advice: stay of the juice a little while. Maybe it will help with the temper!