Couple of Questions About Oral Steroids

[mr.enthate]

Listen to these guys they know there stuff key to this game is consistency stay on a good mass gaining diet for a year you'll gain lol as for the pump question a pump is when your muscles fill with blood and you get that ever so beautiful tight" sensation in the muscle. Steroids that increase you red blood cell count will increase your over all pump as you have more blood flowing in to the muscle carrying nutrients ext.

 

[Techno8K]

Dude, no offense...but I'm sick and tired of seeing posts like this from people that want advice on steroids that have no business taking them. You need to stop making excuses for yourself and why you don't gain weight, and realize that the only answer is FOOD!!

I can almost guaranteed you, that if you run a cycle of any of these that you will not gain anything, and just be shutdown from it. I've said it a thousand times, but if you can't gain weight naturally then you won't gain weight on anabolics either.

LOL I just woke up, and re-read this whole thread with a fresh mind, and I think there's just a very HUGE misunderstanding around going on around here. I just want to clarify that when I said that I want to "gain weight", I simply mean gaining strength and a few pounds of quality muscle. As I stated in my first post, I do gymnastics. I can easily do tumbling and backflips and somersaults and STRENGTH stuff on rings like muscle up, iron cross, back lever, front lever, etc. I just need to gain more strength to do a lot tougher level skills that require massive strength and perhaps an inverted cross.

I know the steroids I listed are not considered bulking steroids, and I don't want to get huge. If I gain even 3 lbs of muscles during my cycle, I'd consider it a success. You guys will rarely ever hear of a gymnast doing bulking steroids cause it reduces flexiblity, proprioception, and body awareness in space. I need the extra strength and vascularity. I'm not trying to gain massive weight cause the extra weight you carry in gymnastics will not help you at all and will affect your center of gravity and your ability to overcome gravity. How many bulky person do you see do gymnastics? I rarely see any, and when I do, they are terrible and don't do it gracefully. Not everyone who wants to take steroids just ONLY hit the gym and lift weights or have the same desires and/or expectations.

I do a rigorous weightlifting and bodyweight training routine and a bulking diet. Although with good intentions, a lot of you guys here are just very dogmatic in your beliefs. Scientistists used to debate for a very long time whether light was a wave or a particle, and it turns out that it is BOTH a particle and a wave. Just be open minded to the possibility that both people can be right. I love you guys cause I know y'all are sincerely trying to help, but seriously lol. You guys can't realistically and honestly expect one principle to apply to every single person on Earth, with no exceptions.

 

[mad4training]

I don't reckon u need advice from a forum. Just go do it and see if it works.

 

[Proppar]

LOL I just woke up, and re-read this whole thread with a fresh mind, and I think there's just a very HUGE misunderstanding around going on around here. I just want to clarify that when I said that I want to "gain weight", I simply mean gaining strength and a few pounds of quality muscle. As I stated in my first post, I do gymnastics. I can easily do tumbling and backflips and somersaults and STRENGTH stuff on rings like muscle up, iron cross, back lever, front lever, etc. I just need to gain more strength to do a lot tougher level skills that require massive strength and perhaps an inverted cross.

I know the steroids I listed are not considered bulking steroids, and I don't want to get huge. If I gain even 3 lbs of muscles during my cycle, I'd consider it a success. You guys will rarely ever hear of a gymnast doing bulking steroids cause it reduces flexiblity, proprioception, and body awareness in space. I need the extra strength and vascularity. I'm not trying to gain massive weight cause the extra weight you carry in gymnastics will not help you at all and will affect your center of gravity and your ability to overcome gravity. How many bulky person do you see do gymnastics? I rarely see any, and when I do, they are terrible and don't do it gracefully. Not everyone who wants to take steroids just ONLY hit the gym and lift weights or have the same desires and/or expectations.

I do a rigorous weightlifting and bodyweight training routine and a bulking diet. Although with good intentions, a lot of you guys here are just very dogmatic in your beliefs. Scientistists used to debate for a very long time whether light was a wave or a particle, and it turns out that it is BOTH a particle and a wave. Just be open minded to the possibility that both people can be right. I love you guys cause I know y'all are sincerely trying to help, but seriously lol. You guys can't realistically and honestly expect one principle to apply to every single person on Earth, with no exceptions.

You're not right tho, you're a retard who has no business with aas. It's tru not one thing applies to everyone on earth but that only applies to people who know wat they're talking about. U clearly don't. Go ahead and run your proposed cycle cause apparently u know better than everyone here

 

[dew925]

Wow here we go again another person not liking what they hear so they want to argue about .why come to a forum an ask very knowledgable people questions an then they advise you an yet you fail to accept there knowledge!!!!

 

[bigbassturd]

You're claiming to have consumed a zillion calories per day to try and gain mass, and now are trying to go AAS.

Yet then you come back and say nevermind, you're not trying to gain mass, only strength.

Then you say your training is correct....yet then come back and say you need the "extra edge" because what you are doing is not working.

Then, after asking for and receiving advice from very experienced bros on this board, you tell them thanks but no thanks, you'll just start it this week anyways.


Let me clear something up for you, you are NOT ready for AAS. Not even close. Your diet and training need to be tweaked, and that is an obvious fact.

You will not even hope to keep the miniscule gains you'll make on the compounds you shouldn't be running to begin with. You think you know best, yet obviously can't gain on your own. Ectomorph does not mean you can't gain weight, it means if you don't train and eat right, you can't gain weight.

Sounds to me like someone isn't being told what they want to hear.

 

[bigbassturd]

Oh, and fire your shitty nutritionist.

 

[Fishak]

Bro, if I were you I would say sorry to dylan, rick, and others then I would ask for help. these dudes are legit, they can make you a sweet ass diet and natty supplement protocol. They can develope as sweet ass workout routine too. This site is awesome and these kind folks offer their professional experience for FREE. Their advice is not bro science, its legit facts and proven science. Clean the slate bro...

Btw, I am your height and I weigh 40+ more pounds than you, think about that... And this year I did first cycle. i waited, and it was worth it.

 

[Techno8K]

Wow here we go again another person not liking what they hear so they want to argue about .why come to a forum an ask very knowledgable people questions an then they advise you an yet you fail to accept there knowledge!!!!

I asked questions about steroids, not about my diet and my unique body that I've lived in all my life. If questions about steroids were answered, you bet I will listen to their steroid advice and absorb it all like a sponge without question. However, that isn't the case here.

If Dylan and Rick's theory is correct (i.e., it's all about the food and calories), then it must logically follow that if you feed a very skinny person a BOATLOAD amount of food, then given sufficient time, he will become a Guiness World Record holder for the heaviest person. Sorry, but I believe it's mostly genetics and everyone has an upper limit for the amount of weight they can hold. I know I've reached very damn close to my upper natural limit. If I wasn't doing weight training or gymnastics, I would be weighing around 100 lbs now. I used to be a stick figure when I was young.

I never said that they were wrong. I know that they are RIGHT that it's all about the diet, because for an overwhelming majority of people, it does apply. Like I've stated before, I've had a couple of friends and even a skinny roommate eat a bulking diet and their weight spike up in front of my eyes. I stated that we could BOTH be right.

Bro, if I were you I would say sorry to dylan, rick, and others then I would ask for help. these dudes are legit, they can make you a sweet ass diet and natty supplement protocol. They can develope as sweet ass workout routine too. This site is awesome and these kind folks offer their professional experience for FREE. Their advice is not bro science, its legit facts and proven science. Clean the slate bro...

I believe I've been very respectful to everyone in this thread, so I don't know what I would actually be apologizing for? I think apologizing to someone for having a civilized and mutually respectful disagreement is like apologizing for telling someone the truth.

You're claiming to have consumed a zillion calories per day to try and gain mass, and now are trying to go AAS. Yet then you come back and say nevermind, you're not trying to gain mass, only strength.
In my previous posts, I clearly stated that I wanted to gain "strength and a few pounds of quality muscle", not only strength by itself bro.

Then you say your training is correct....yet then come back and say you need the "extra edge" because what you are doing is not working.
I never said that. What I've been doing IS working. I've already stated that I can easily do an iron cross and many other strength-intensive gymnastics stuff that most of you guys in this thread can only dream of. Clearly, my training isn't wrong cause I've making progress slowly but surely strength-wise, just not muscle mass wise.

Then, after asking for and receiving advice from very experienced bros on this board, you tell them thanks but no thanks, you'll just start it this week anyways.
I already made it clear that I've already thought long and hard for many months and that it didn't come lightly, and that I've already have the steroids in my possession, and was going to do it. I thanked them all for their time, even though my questions werent answered, cause I know they are sincerely trying to help me out. What did you want me to say? F*CK YOU ALL and go all emo? No, I wasn't raised like that. I have a Chemistry degree and I know I can do a cycle safely.

Let me clear something up for you, you are NOT ready for AAS. Not even close. Your diet and training need to be tweaked, and that is an obvious fact. You will not even hope to keep the miniscule gains you'll make on the compounds you shouldn't be running to begin with. You think you know best, yet obviously can't gain on your own. Ectomorph does not mean you can't gain weight, it means if you don't train and eat right, you can't gain weight.
As I stated above, I know it's almost always about the diet and training, however I've reached my natural limit. Yes, it is an obvious fact so I'm not going to dispute that, but however I'm the exception.

Sounds to me like someone isn't being told what they want to hear.
No. I'm always an open-minded person. I've always listen to everyone's positions and think for myself. I like hearing opposing views. That doesn't mean I'm not going to stand my ground when I know I'm right. Just because someone has credentials to flash around or a million posts, doesn't mean they are always right.

You're not right tho, you're a retard who has no business with aas. It's tru not one thing applies to everyone on earth but that only applies to people who know wat they're talking about. U clearly don't. Go ahead and run your proposed cycle cause apparently u know better than everyone here

Why are you mad bro?



EDIT: Dylan, let's assume for a second that I am underweight and can naturally put on further weight, how many lbs do you think I should be before I start using steroids? Thanks

 

[raze]

Wow...... If you spent some time reading Dylan already told you how much weight you could put on naturally..... 20 - 30 lbs EASY! This isn't a debate. You have your advice take it or leave it.