Could use your help with Cycle

[itlnstln]

Alright
I am about to start my first cycle in over 5 years and I have everything on hand, (or at least I think I do) - I have a pretty good idea of what my cycle will look like - but I would "truly" appreciate everyone's input on how "they" would run these products together

I have the following:

40ml of SUS (250mg/ml)
40ml of EQ (400mg/ml)
100 DBol Caps (10mg/cap)
50 Winstrol Caps (50mg/cap)
30ml Arimidex (2mg/ml)
50 Clomid Caps (50mg/cap)
1ml HCG (5000iu/amp)

I am 6ft 6in
300lbs
-20% bf

any help would (as always) be much appreciated

 

[Its All Genetics]

Alright
I am about to start my first cycle in over 5 years and I have everything on hand, (or at least I think I do) - I have a pretty good idea of what my cycle will look like - but I would "truly" appreciate everyone's input on how "they" would run these products together

I have the following:

40ml of SUS (250mg/ml)
40ml of EQ (400mg/ml)
100 DBol Caps (10mg/cap)
50 Winstrol Caps (50mg/cap)
30ml Arimidex (2mg/ml)
50 Clomid Caps (50mg/cap)
1ml HCG (5000iu/amp)

I am 6ft 6in
300lbs
-20% bf

any help would (as always) be much appreciated

get that body fat lower before nething else then i would say

test 500mgs ew 1-16

eq- 400mgs ew 1-14

winny 50mgs ew last 6 weeks

clomid nolva and hcg

 

[itlnstln]

get that body fat lower before nething else then i would say

test 500mgs ew 1-16

eq- 400mgs ew 1-14

winny 50mgs ew last 6 weeks

clomid nolva and hcg

The BF is at 18% right now - and I'm not starting the Cycle for 3 more weeks, so I will be all set.

Wow - Winny 50mgs once/week? - That'll sure make this "script" last a while!
LOL

 

[i am what i am]

winny everyday at 50 mg and no less than that. That is what he most likely meant. Your BF is high but you should see some good results from the cycle suggested. But it seems like you are a very big guy already. Are you intending to bulk up or cut down? If bulking than you can throw in that D-bol first 4 weeks of cycle at 30-40 mg/day. If cutting, I would advise putting the D-bol off until the future.

 

[Its All Genetics]

The BF is at 18% right now - and I'm not starting the Cycle for 3 more weeks, so I will be all set.

Wow - Winny 50mgs once/week? - That'll sure make this "script" last a while!
LOL

yeah my bad... i obviously meant 50mgs ed...would avoid the dbol as it increase the bloodpressure and i ur juicing at a higher bodyfat that the last thing ur gunna want. get some fatburners from the af store and pick up some clen to run with the winny shit will get u insanely ripped and vascualr

 

[itlnstln]

winny everyday at 50 mg and no less than that. That is what he most likely meant. Your BF is high but you should see some good results from the cycle suggested. But it seems like you are a very big guy already. Are you intending to bulk up or cut down? If bulking than you can throw in that D-bol first 4 weeks of cycle at 30-40 mg/day. If cutting, I would advise putting the D-bol off until the future.

i won't start this cycle unless I am at 290 - I will be approaching this as a "bulking" cycle - but the difference will be that I will be eating perfectly clean - and not any of the empty-crappy calories I did when I was younger and hungry to be HUGE ;-)

I will use the DBol at the beginning of the cycle, but I don't think I want to label this cycle bulking or cutting, - just simply balls-to-the-wall, w/cardio, killer lifting,proper rest, etc........(HOPEFULLY)

Think it would benefit to up the Winny to 100mg/day for final 6-7 weeks of cycle/

 

[Its All Genetics]

i won't start this cycle unless I am at 290 - I will be approaching this as a "bulking" cycle - but the difference will be that I will be eating perfectly clean - and not any of the empty-crappy calories I did when I was younger and hungry to be HUGE ;-)

I will use the DBol at the beginning of the cycle, but I don't think I want to label this cycle bulking or cutting, - just simply balls-to-the-wall, w/cardio, killer lifting,proper rest, etc........(HOPEFULLY)

Think it would benefit to up the Winny to 100mg/day for final 6-7 weeks of cycle/

i guess everyone is different but why not hold off on the dbol unless u dont bloat off it hardcore.... and just go with the eq test and winny and amazing diet and kick ass cardio get ur body at a better bodyfat percentage and lean out hardcore...get ur body perfect then run a all out cycle?


im more a fan of proportion and always like to bulk then cut bulk then cut....i think arnolds body looks better then ronnie though so that me... ill take symtery over sheer size

 

[itlnstln]

i guess everyone is different but why not hold off on the dbol unless u dont bloat off it hardcore.... and just go with the eq test and winny and amazing diet and kick ass cardio get ur body at a better bodyfat percentage and lean out hardcore...get ur body perfect then run a all out cycle?


im more a fan of proportion and always like to bulk then cut bulk then cut....i think arnolds body looks better then ronnie though so that me... ill take symtery over sheer size

Daily doses of Arimidex won't combat that DBol bloat at all?

 

[Its All Genetics]

Daily doses of Arimidex won't combat that DBol bloat at all?

yeah it def would but.... think about how much more shredded u would be if u ran the test eq and winny with it and in a sense didnt have to worry about the arimdex fighting the bloat from the dbols and test..it would just be test...thats just a figure of speech... trust me i would wanna run the dbol if i was u aswell... and i guess if money doesnt matter then u could run it...but for me a s a poor college student i would save it

 

[itlnstln]

yeah it def would but.... think about how much more shredded u would be if u ran the test eq and winny with it and in a sense didnt have to worry about the arimdex fighting the bloat from the dbols and test..it would just be test...thats just a figure of speech... trust me i would wanna run the dbol if i was u aswell... and i guess if money doesnt matter then u could run it...but for me a s a poor college student i would save it

hey, that's why I asked this question in the first place - I will DEF. consider your stance.

I was just thinking - the Dbol would ba only at the beginning of the cycle to "kickstart" it while the EQ and Sus take their time to kick in. But by the end of the cycle (around 15 weeks) I would assume that "any" bloating effects from the DBol would be gone and I would be as "lean" as I would have been without it.

 

[Its All Genetics]

hey, that's why I asked this question in the first place - I will DEF. consider your stance.

I was just thinking - the Dbol would ba only at the beginning of the cycle to "kickstart" it while the EQ and Sus take their time to kick in. But by the end of the cycle (around 15 weeks) I would assume that "any" bloating effects from the DBol would be gone and I would be as "lean" as I would have been without it.

good way off thinkina aout it... i got a il bloat from dbol it weant away when i stopped but then the deca started kickin so i got bloat from that a little bit so its hard to telll...perhaps some prop to kick start if u wanted for the first 4 weeks 100mgs eod or 50ed would be a nice kick start... i know its not part of the good u have on hand....

u could run prop for 6 weeks it would keep u lean and give u the nice kickstart then the eq would be there on hand...

can u get some prop?

 

[itlnstln]

good way off thinkina aout it... i got a il bloat from dbol it weant away when i stopped but then the deca started kickin so i got bloat from that a little bit so its hard to telll...perhaps some prop to kick start if u wanted for the first 4 weeks 100mgs eod or 50ed would be a nice kick start... i know its not part of the good u have on hand....

u could run prop for 6 weeks it would keep u lean and give u the nice kickstart then the eq would be there on hand...

can u get some prop?

I'm sure I could get my hands on some - but I've been craving that DBol pump ever since I fuct myself up years ago.

I think it's the best...............

 

[tzan]

hey, that's why I asked this question in the first place - I will DEF. consider your stance.

I was just thinking - the Dbol would ba only at the beginning of the cycle to "kickstart" it while the EQ and Sus take their time to kick in. But by the end of the cycle (around 15 weeks) I would assume that "any" bloating effects from the DBol would be gone and I would be as "lean" as I would have been without it.

I would deffiantly kickstart it with the dbol. My last cutter I ran a low dose of dbol to start(30mgs) with 1 mg armidex and I had no bloat at all. Hell, if you have the right anti-e's and diet, you can cut on a dbol/test stack. I say go for it!!

 

[itlnstln]

I would deffiantly kickstart it with the dbol. My last cutter I ran a low dose of dbol to start(30mgs) with 1 mg armidex and I had no bloat at all. Hell, if you have the right anti-e's and diet, you can cut on a dbol/test stack. I say go for it!!

Now you're just getting me excited.............it's tough to have gear sitting right next to you (Especially DBol) and try and have the patience to wait to use it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[Its All Genetics]

I'm sure I could get my hands on some - but I've been craving that DBol pump ever since I fuct myself up years ago.

I think it's the best...............

okay i cant fault ya there the pump is INSANE... diet and anti e's as well as ur genetic susipibility to bloat will determine how lean u stay while ur on it!


if i could offer any constructive criticism it would be to try and get ur bf at like 15% or so before i would run the dbol and test cause that would be a lil hard on the ol heart

 

[Steve The Bluesman]

hey, that's why I asked this question in the first place - I will DEF. consider your stance.

I was just thinking - the Dbol would ba only at the beginning of the cycle to "kickstart" it while the EQ and Sus take their time to kick in. But by the end of the cycle (around 15 weeks) I would assume that "any" bloating effects from the DBol would be gone and I would be as "lean" as I would have been without it.

That makes sense. It is a long cycle - and there is nothing wrong with a kickstart from god old D-bol The bloat will go away in about 3-5 days (during which time you will be getting up in the middle of the night to piss.) they you can go to work on the cutting aspect.

I am leaning toward starting with Dbol for my 14 week summer lean mass cycle of Test/EQ/Tren/T-bol.

Good luck paisan,


Bluesman

 

[itlnstln]

That makes sense. It is a long cycle - and there is nothing wrong with a kickstart from god old D-bol The bloat will go away in about 3-5 days (during which time you will be getting up in the middle of the night to piss.) they you can go to work on the cutting aspect.

I am leaning toward starting with Dbol for my 14 week summer lean mass cycle of Test/EQ/Tren/T-bol.

Good luck paisan,


Bluesman

When do you start that cycle?

 

[itlnstln]

How's this:

Wk 1-4 Dbol @ 30mgs a day
Wk 1-12 Sustanon 3/4ml EOD so 4x a week, this equals 750mgs a week
Wk 1-12 Eq @ 600mgs (mix EQ and Sus in one shot)
Wk 10-15 Winny @ 50mgs a day
Wk 13-15 Dbol @ 15-20mgs a day
Arimidex @.5mgs EOD
Wk 16 PCT
Hcg 250iu 2x a week
Nolva @ 20mgs a day

 

[itlnstln]

How's this:

Wk 1-4 Dbol @ 30mgs a day
Wk 1-12 Sustanon 3/4ml EOD so 4x a week, this equals 750mgs a week
Wk 1-12 Eq @ 600mgs (mix EQ and Sus in one shot)
Wk 10-15 Winny @ 50mgs a day
Wk 13-15 Dbol @ 15-20mgs a day
Arimidex @.5mgs EOD
Wk 16 PCT
Hcg 250iu 2x a week
Nolva @ 20mgs a day

Or should I substitute the Wk 13-15 with some Test Prop ED and up the Winny to 100mg/ed

 

[axe3]

Not sure exactly how you are planning on running yer HCG. It is tough to tell how you have it written. I personally like to run 500 iu/day for 10 days in the middle of my cycle and again at the end PRIOR to starting clomid/nolva.

Looks like a rockin cycle...you should have plenty of fun. Have you thought of subbing T-bol for D-bol. Great jumpstart and no bloat

 

[slat1]

why dbol at the beginning and end? The way you are using sust you will have even levels already...

 

[itlnstln]

Not sure exactly how you are planning on running yer HCG. It is tough to tell how you have it written. I personally like to run 500 iu/day for 10 days in the middle of my cycle and again at the end PRIOR to starting clomid/nolva.

Looks like a rockin cycle...you should have plenty of fun. Have you thought of subbing T-bol for D-bol. Great jumpstart and no bloat

I must know less about HCG then I thought - What's the benefit of running it right in the middle of a cycle?

 

[axe3]

I must know less about HCG then I thought - What's the benefit of running it right in the middle of a cycle?

There are several ways to run it. If you go to the "my cycle" forum there is a sticky at the top of the page called RADARS Sticky. Check it out it gives reasons for running it in the various ways.

I personally like to run it in the middle and pre pct because it keeps my nuts from turning into raisins and seems to make recovery much easier. Also I read that running it throughout your cycle can damage your leydig cells. I do not know if there is any truth to this but I figure why chance it.

 

[itlnstln]

why dbol at the beginning and end? The way you are using sust you will have even levels already...

I wasn't going to run it at the end - but the idea was thrown out there by a few friend's of mine.

I would rather end the cycle with just the EQ and Winny - then go to PCT.

I'm just wondering, now, if 100mg/ed of Winny would be much better than 50mg (sounds elementary, I know) - and - would adding some Prop the last 3 weeks Ed (after the Sus is ceased) - along with Winny and EQ...........

Would this be overdoing it? or would it be a nice end to a nice cycle?

If the Prop is a "yes" how much would you suggest injecting ED?

 

[itlnstln]

I wasn't going to run it at the end - but the idea was thrown out there by a few friend's of mine.

I would rather end the cycle with just the EQ and Winny - then go to PCT.

I'm just wondering, now, if 100mg/ed of Winny would be much better than 50mg (sounds elementary, I know) - and - would adding some Prop the last 3 weeks Ed (after the Sus is ceased) - along with Winny and EQ...........

Would this be overdoing it? or would it be a nice end to a nice cycle?

If the Prop is a "yes" how much would you suggest injecting ED?

Sorry to "bump" this - but - would ending the cycle with 2-3 weeks of Prop be a nice way to lead into PCT?

 

[itlnstln]

******shamefull bump******

 

[krisco]

Sorry to "bump" this - but - would ending the cycle with 2-3 weeks of Prop be a nice way to lead into PCT?

seems like a rockin' cycle!!! I'm F&$#&&% jeolous as F&*$

The prop being very quickly absorbed seems to be a good idea. When your finished your cycle you can start the recovery process immediatly.

that cycle will rock! why the d-bols at the end though?

 

[itlnstln]

seems like a rockin' cycle!!! I'm F&$#&&% jeolous as F&*$

The prop being very quickly absorbed seems to be a good idea. When your finished your cycle you can start the recovery process immediatly.

that cycle will rock! why the d-bols at the end though?

DBols at the end were just "temporary insanity" - they are out

 

[OMEGA]

I know you dont wanna here this but I say do Test at 400 mgs a week only

but do it for 16 weeks

an focus on cutting, cardio and basic intense lifting

 

[itlnstln]

I know you dont wanna here this but I say do Test at 400 mgs a week only

but do it for 16 weeks

an focus on cutting, cardio and basic intense lifting

explain please?

 

[Steve The Bluesman]

When do you start that cycle?

I have May 20th flagged as a tentative start date, but things obviously can change one way or the other

And good move on dropping the Dbol at the end - you will be looking tremendous at the end of that cycle, no need to add water wieght to the mix.


Bluesman

 

[itlnstln]

I have May 20th flagged as a tentative start date, but things obviously can change one way or the other

And good move on dropping the Dbol at the end - you will be looking tremendous at the end of that cycle, no need to add water wieght to the mix.


Bluesman

Thanks Bro - I am hoping to get back to a "solid" (not ripped yet - cycle after next) 300lbs