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Could use some help choosing an AS..

Lestat

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Okay.. still, I am an AS virgin.

I have some "credit" with a guy now since I was a recipient of a bad batch of Var.

I am bummed now because I was looking forward to seeing what it would do for me over 8 weeks..

Instead of getting my money back, I can get other gear.. the question..

Should I just try some winny for 6-8 weeks?

OR should I suck it up and maybe try my first injectable? (will be my first AS usage ever too).
If so......... then What?? something quick and simple.. and what else would be involved.. clomd? ldex? etc?

My goal here is to add more size and strength.


Thanks a lot guys, I appreciate it.

Brian
 
man I feel for you

The test is a good idea but youll need to run at least 500mgs

8-10 week cycle with tons of protien and youll gain 10-15 pounds with an anti E...femara, liq. any of those

besides that just need clomid and an anti E for post.



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Test cypianate (400mg/ml) its a 10 ml so you can run 10 weeks


Go with this one ^ and shoot 400mgs a week instead of the 5 I told you
 
Your giving this guy advice? If thats You in your avatar and you have actually done AS than I would keep your advice to youreslf.

HighIntensity said:
man I feel for you

The test is a good idea but youll need to run at least 500mgs

8-10 week cycle with tons of protien and youll gain 10-15 pounds with an anti E...femara, liq. any of those

besides that just need clomid and an anti E for post.



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Test cypianate (400mg/ml) its a 10 ml so you can run 10 weeks


Go with this one ^ and shoot 400mgs a week instead of the 5 I told you
 
test

run test at 250mg/wk for 8 weeks. that was my first and i gained 20 lbs, kept it all too. everyone reacts differently though
 
Lestat27 said:
Okay.. still, I am an AS virgin.

I have some "credit" with a guy now since I was a recipient of a bad batch of Var.

I am bummed now because I was looking forward to seeing what it would do for me over 8 weeks..

Instead of getting my money back, I can get other gear.. the question..

Should I just try some winny for 6-8 weeks?

OR should I suck it up and maybe try my first injectable? (will be my first AS usage ever too).
If so......... then What?? something quick and simple.. and what else would be involved.. clomd? ldex? etc?

My goal here is to add more size and strength.


Thanks a lot guys, I appreciate it.

Brian

go with the testosterone, i dont care what kind you get, go with the least expensive one, run it for 8 weeks at a dose of 500mg/week along with arimidex at .5mg/ed or femera at 1.25mg/ed
 
go with

at least 400mg/test/week. The side effect to result ratio is unnoticeable, yet the end results will be much better.
 
Lestat... suck it up and just run a real cycle for God's sake.

Weeks:

1-10 3-400 mg Deca
1-10 250-500 test
1-8 25 mg D-BOL ED

1/4-1/2 mg Liquidex

This is a light weight cycle and you will grow huge.
 
SofaGeorge said:
Lestat... suck it up and just run a real cycle for God's sake.

Weeks:

1-10 3-400 mg Deca
1-10 250-500 test
1-8 25 mg D-BOL ED

1/4-1/2 mg Liquidex

This is a light weight cycle and you will grow huge.

run the dbol for 6 weeks max, otherwise, this is a good cycle.

NFG
 
Aussie Juga naught said:
Your giving this guy advice? If thats You in your avatar and you have actually done AS than I would keep your advice to youreslf.


This is the dumbest statement I have ever heard on the board. You sir border on the verge of retardation. First put on your glasses and look at my avatar again, second post a pic that shows you at seven percent with a shade over 200 pounds. Third my aas knowledge is well known and very helpful for this kid considering I know his sit. first hand.

Now run away little boy, save your toughguy comments and get your head out of your ass.,

fag

only you can prevent yourself from looking like a moron, say this everytime before you post...

and last even if I did look shitty, some mods on this board will admitt they are a long way off from perfection, but the science and intelligence that they bring to an aas conversation is perfection.

so recap
: you tried to make a joke, and well looking at my new avatar, one that is not 100miles away, you look stupid. Or should i give you the thread to where over 400 members commented on my build. sit down charlie brown.,

: your comment was further destroyed because knowing the science of aas and doing it can be two completely different enities in themself.

conclusion
makeing yourself a target to be destroyed in public by moi: priceless
 
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SofaGeorge said:
Lestat... suck it up and just run a real cycle for God's sake.

Weeks:

1-10 3-400 mg Deca
1-10 250-500 test
1-8 25 mg D-BOL ED

1/4-1/2 mg Liquidex

This is a light weight cycle and you will grow huge.

I agree, I did well on test/deca/arimidex with no sides at all. I would suggest prop but since you're new to the jabbing you'd have fewer of them with enanthate. But if you can deal with a few extra jabs per week I think you're better off with the prop because you'll be able to minimize any bloat that the liquidex doesn't catch.
 
What about Cyp?

And thanks everyone for the advice..

Thanks HI, yeah you do know more about my situation specifically..

I guess the 250mg of test a week looks more appealing.. let me tell you why.. its not a cost issue.. its an issues of sides.. I don't want to lose my hair or get acne! I'm pretty paranoid about it.

Brian
 
I said go with the cyp

because on his list its the best bet for you,

susp- no
sust - maybe, a like cyp better
prop- no

so I you are useing the credit got the 10ml bottle of cyp run it 10 weeks, get nova or amidex (easy)

and dude the hair thing is so overblown, guys like frack and me acctually gain hair while on due to the products we use.

little 10 percent spiro and nizoral, with folligen to heal and you wont shed nada
 
yeah the test cyp is 400mg/ml and is a 10cc am.

So does that mean I shoot 1cc per week for 10 weeks?

Do I need Nolvadex, Armidex, Liquidex...??? and how much and how often do I take that?

Brian
 
HighIntensity said:


This is the dumbest statement I have ever heard on the board. You sir border on the verge of retardation. First put on your glasses and look at my avatar again, second post a pic that shows you at seven percent with a shade over 200 pounds. Third my aas knowledge is well known and very helpful for this kid considering I know his sit. first hand.

Now run away little boy, save your toughguy comments and get your head out of your ass.,

fag

only you can prevent yourself from looking like a moron, say this everytime before you post...

and last even if I did look shitty, some mods on this board will admitt they are a long way off from perfection, but the science and intelligence that they bring to an aas conversation is perfection.

so recap
: you tried to make a joke, and well looking at my new avatar, one that is not 100miles away, you look stupid. Or should i give you the thread to where over 400 members commented on my build. sit down charlie brown.,

: your comment was further destroyed because knowing the science of aas and doing it can be two completely different enities in themself.

conclusion
makeing yourself a target to be destroyed in public by moi: priceless







I was waiting to hear back from you after that stupid reply of his.

:beer:
 
Lestat27 said:
What about Cyp?

And thanks everyone for the advice..

Thanks HI, yeah you do know more about my situation specifically..

I guess the 250mg of test a week looks more appealing.. let me tell you why.. its not a cost issue.. its an issues of sides.. I don't want to lose my hair or get acne! I'm pretty paranoid about it.

Brian

Cyp or enathate would be fine (and best), but I use at least 500mg, I really don't think the sides will be any worse with 500mg as they would be with 250mg, but the results could be much different. Get some propecia if you're are worried about your hair and just keep your skin clean and fingers crossed. I'm using 700mg a week of test and have the personal hygiene of a homeless person and still do not have any noticable increases in acne. Varies from person to person. Just go for it.

And who ever that was that insulted HI (aussie guy), fuck off, he knows what he's talking about and looks like the shit in his avatar. Thats the sort of stupidity that this board could do w/o.
 
HighIntensity said:


This is the dumbest statement I have ever heard on the board. You sir border on the verge of retardation. First put on your glasses and look at my avatar again, second post a pic that shows you at seven percent with a shade over 200 pounds. Third my aas knowledge is well known and very helpful for this kid considering I know his sit. first hand.
6' 230 pounds 19 naturall
Now run away little boy, save your toughguy comments and get your head out of your ass.,
ok...:rolleyes:
fag
are we down to petty insults now?
only you can prevent yourself from looking like a moron, say this everytime before you post...
take some of your own advice.
and last even if I did look shitty, some mods on this board will admitt they are a long way off from perfection, but the science and intelligence that they bring to an aas conversation is perfection.
Who cares what the mods look like.
so recap: you tried to make a joke, and well looking at my new avatar, one that is not 100miles away, you look stupid. Or should i give you the thread to where over 400 members commented on my build. sit down charlie brown.,
400 members wow! Would these be the same 180 pounder members that are jacked and been training for 6 months?
: your comment was further destroyed because knowing the science of aas and doing it can be two completely different enities in themself.
No argument there.
conclusionmakeing yourself a target to be destroyed in public by moi: priceless
I couldent give a fuck what anyone over the net pretending to be a bad ass thinks about me. Reaching your level should of been easily obtained naturally, I guess you just took the easy way out.




 
"Reaching your level should of been easily obtained naturally, I guess you just took the easy way out. "

Aussie, start a new thread if you want to discuss "naturalism". Do you drink milk? Drive a car? Use A/C? Are any of these things "natural"?

CM
 
Aussie Juga naught said:

I took one cycle, trained natty for 5 years and have two degrees in personal training.

oh and hoss post a picture, But I am sure your stupid comment will anger many members here...your done son.

goodnight
 
Can we get back to the topic at hand!

Say I take 400mg of Test Cyp a week..

1) I shoot it weekly right?
2) What Anti-E's should I take during (be specific!)
3) I think I've got the clomid down.. 300 1d 100 1 week.. 50 2 weeks..

Brian
 
Lestat27 said:
Can we get back to the topic at hand!

Say I take 400mg of Test Cyp a week..

1) I shoot it weekly right?
2) What Anti-E's should I take during (be specific!)
3) I think I've got the clomid down.. 300 1d 100 1 week.. 50 2 weeks..

Brian

1) yes, once or twice

2) this varies from individaul to individual some guys can shoot a gram of test with no anti-e's and be fine others grow B cups from one amp of sust, but that said... 1.25mg letrozole (fermara) EOD OR .5mg of anastrozle (arimidex) EOD should be ok, although you could probably get away with just nolva of clomid if you want

3) right start about a week after your last shot of cyp
 
I just started a cycle of 250mg Sust and 300mg Deca per week.
Do you guys recommend starting the anti-E's right away?...or wait to see if I start getting any signs of gyno?
 
HighIntensity, don't even respond to the idiot bro. Aussie Juga naught is a complete waist of energy. You know you look awesome in that pic bro so don't even sweet this crocodile hunter wannabe! He's probably mad because he has tried his whole life to be huge and ripped like us, only to find out that his genetics suck!:doublefi: :chainsaw:
 
400 mg/week of EQ for 10 weeks felt like a perfect first cycle to me. My whole cycle(2 ttokkyo EQ's, nolva, clomid, and pins included) was $100. cant beat that for price and simplicity
 
sk* said:
Aussie Juga naught,

I am 5'2 at 300lbs 5% bodyfat, you have no business talking so shut your trap. Oh and yes, I am all natural.

YOUR ALL NATURAL?! YOUR OTHER POSTS SEEM TO PAINT A DIFFERENT PICTURE.

sk* said:
Shot up 10iu upon waking up, waited 10mins and drunk around 60g of carbs, then drunk another 20 or so around the 15min mark. It has now been 18mins since my shot and I have no signs of going hypo.
http://boards.elitefitness.com/forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=162995

Insulin wow man, but your NATURAL ???!!!

sk* said:
One side effect I am noticing lately from anabolic use My facial hair grows really fast, much faster than a couple months ago for sure. I shave in the morning and by night time it's back to its original state.
http://boards.elitefitness.com/forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=162075

Im confused anaboic use? But your NATURAL ???!!!

sk* said:
Yea my diet sucked so I can't evaluate the dnp well until I run another dnp cycle with another brand. I'll hit dnp again within a couple months, I am on cycle now with fina and var.
http://boards.elitefitness.com/forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=157476

Dnp? But your NATURAL!!!!

sk* said:
Thanks for the info, but I don't get any sides (gyno or shrunked balls) from fina or any other roids. :p ;)
http://boards.elitefitness.com/forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=154902

I don't understand You dont use steroids???

sk* said:
Fina seemed to kick in faster last time .. and I even frontloaded this time around and doing 1.5cc/day. I don't get why my strength isn't going through the roof like last time. I guess it takes time. :( Anyone had similar experiences with fina or other roids?
http://boards.elitefitness.com/forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=154909

You arn't telling a little fib are you, I still believe your NATURAL bro!
 
Aussie Juga naught said:


YOUR ALL NATURAL?! YOUR OTHER POSTS SEEM TO PAINT A DIFFERENT PICTURE.


http://boards.elitefitness.com/forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=162995

Insulin wow man, but your NATURAL ???!!!


http://boards.elitefitness.com/forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=162075

Im confused anaboic use? But your NATURAL ???!!!


http://boards.elitefitness.com/forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=157476

Dnp? But your NATURAL!!!!


http://boards.elitefitness.com/forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=154902

I don't understand You dont use steroids???


http://boards.elitefitness.com/forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=154909

You arn't telling a little fib are you, I still believe your NATURAL bro!














HEY MORON SK*s POST WAS A JOKE A PUN, LOL...
 
Aussie Juga naught said:
If you had half a brain HighIntensity you would of relized mine was as well.

You have no concept as to how the nuances of the english language work, do you?
 
georgie24 said:
throw some eq in there shoot in the same syringe..easy and grow

Good point, if that's T400 you're planning on using (whick I think it is) then some EQ or plain sterile oil would help it not hurt so f*n bad. That shit burns. I'd add the EQ just b/c I've heard the T400 has been underdosed at times, so 200-400mg of EQ a week if you can get some QV or TT, if not just 100-200mg of less concentrate stuff would be ok. I'd like to see you do the test/EQ cycle. Good Luck and let us know about any more questions, we're trying to help here, but this thread did sorta get off track.

Aussie go bother someone elses thread!! This guy is trying to get some help. Why are you here anyway if you a natty (not that there is anything wrong with that, you're just a dick)? Go play on the Diet or Training board, or whack of to some of the womens pics, sounds like you need it.
 
this thread is 5 years old. Whhoooooaaaa/
 
LOL at Lestat running a cycle, nice resurrection of a dead thread, Gambino. You some kind of necromancer?
 
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