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Gman1

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hey, gonna start this in about a week and a half.. im trying to gain about 25lbs of pretty solid muscle, so if anyone has imput, opinions, slander,or future lotto numbers, please feel free to spill it..thanks
week1: Dbol 25mg/day, sust250mg
week2: Dbol 25mg/day, sust500mg
week3: Dbol20mg,20mg,10mg,10mg,5mg,5mg,5mg, Sust 500mg
week4: Sust 500mg
week5: Sust 500mg eq200mg, HCG1000I.U.
week6: Sust 250mg, eq 400mg, insulin m/w/f
week7: eq 400mg, insulin m/w/f
week8: eq 400mg
week9: eq 400mg
week10: eq200mg, HCG2000I.U.
week11: 2000I.U. HCG
week12: nolva20mg/day, clomid/50mg/day
week13: nolva20mg/day, clomid/50mg/day
week14: creatine, insulin, clen...
 
might need more nolva if sides arise from the sust, otherwise 25lbs. is def. not unrealistic! good luck bro!!
 
Your only running the EQ for 6 weeks that is a complete waste. You won't even start seeing results until about that time. You need to run EQ at least 12 weeks to be benefical. IMO the cycle should look something like this

Dbol 30mg wk 1-4
EQ 400mg wk 1-12
Sus 500mg wk 5-11

This is how I would run it. Your just wasting the EQ at 6 weeks.
 
shamrock got it. u need 12 weeks bro or just go sust and dbol. i would highly reccomend keepin the eq if u can get more though
 
agreed , shamrock is right... if it were me , id also run the sust all the way too, or at least for 10wks
 
bro cycles under 12 weeks are really a waste when u think about all the ancillaries u must by ie: nolva, hcg, and adex. so to spend a little more on gear so it lasts 12 is really worth it. i like to have 16 weeks worth in case my gains arent goin away. i will stay on when the gains are peakin till they go. under 12 weeks u are cheatin yourself. put it this way u add more time to cycle and get twice as much out of it imo
 
Gman1 said:
hey, gonna start this in about a week and a half.. im trying to gain about 25lbs of pretty solid muscle, so if anyone has imput, opinions, slander,or future lotto numbers, please feel free to spill it..thanks
week1: Dbol 25mg/day, sust250mg
week2: Dbol 25mg/day, sust500mg
week3: Dbol20mg,20mg,10mg,10mg,5mg,5mg,5mg, Sust 500mg
week4: Sust 500mg
week5: Sust 500mg eq200mg, HCG1000I.U.
week6: Sust 250mg, eq 400mg, insulin m/w/f
week7: eq 400mg, insulin m/w/f
week8: eq 400mg
week9: eq 400mg
week10: eq200mg, HCG2000I.U.
week11: 2000I.U. HCG
week12: nolva20mg/day, clomid/50mg/day
week13: nolva20mg/day, clomid/50mg/day
week14: creatine, insulin, clen...

mistake #1: sustanon for 6 weeks only
mistake #2: EQ for 6 weeks only
mistake #3: dbol is all over the place...up and down and only for 3 weeks

my recommendation: exactly what shamrock said
 
Wk-1-6-D-blol 30mg

Wk-1-12-Sus 500mg

Wk-1-12-Eq 600mg

Look at the PCT fourm and plan a good recovery I do not like what you have.
 
Gman1 said:
hey, gonna start this in about a week and a half.. im trying to gain about 25lbs of pretty solid muscle, so if anyone has imput, opinions, slander,or future lotto numbers, please feel free to spill it..thanks
week1: Dbol 25mg/day, sust250mg
week2: Dbol 25mg/day, sust500mg
week3: Dbol20mg,20mg,10mg,10mg,5mg,5mg,5mg, Sust 500mg
week4: Sust 500mg
week5: Sust 500mg eq200mg, HCG1000I.U.
week6: Sust 250mg, eq 400mg, insulin m/w/f
week7: eq 400mg, insulin m/w/f
week8: eq 400mg
week9: eq 400mg
week10: eq200mg, HCG2000I.U.
week11: 2000I.U. HCG
week12: nolva20mg/day, clomid/50mg/day
week13: nolva20mg/day, clomid/50mg/day
week14: creatine, insulin, clen...


id go something like this
Days 1-8 Sus 250 mgED , dbol(day1-2 60 mg, day 3-4 50 mg, day 5-6 40 mg, day 7-8 30 mg)
days 9-16 EQ 200 mg ED
day 16-42 creatine, insulin, clen, ephedra, T-3, GH, cytadren, etc..PM me for dosing on these during this time if youd like)
day 31-42 clomid(100 for first 5 days, 50 a day for last 7 days)/ HCG therapy
adex 1-1.5 mg ed(throughout cycle)
given the longest acting ester in sus has a half life of 16 days(as does EQ) as the high androgenic part of the cycle is dying down you are ramping into a high anabolic part so the gains you keep will be much more permanent in nature.

after you finish the cycle the clen and ephedra will have done a great job cleaning out your androgen receptors and after a short(7-10 day) layoff you are fresh to hit it again...:)

good luck
 
I'll ask since no one else did. Is this your first? If it is, I'd run test enth 500mg/wk for weeks 1-10.

If you have the stuff already I'd run dbol 25mg(or 30), wk 1-4, sust 500mg/wk wk 1-10, eq 400mg wk1-12.

Don't taper your dbol or your sust. Stacking dbol with sust is used to jumpstart your cycle because of the different time released esters in the sustanon, so doing the dbol while not doing the sust wastes both of them.

If this is all leftover stuff and you're just trying to piece something together, I'd order more and do it right. No sense wasting all that gear/money/receptors on a piecemeal cycle. But, I also know what it feels like to have it burning a hole in your pocket. :)
 
about 25lbs of pretty solid muscle in ten weeks, never seen that in my 17 years lifting.
10-15 maybe of solid muscle
 
to big jake-whts the PCT fourm and what would be a better recovery,
to stuck- its not my first cycle, and i have an extra bottle of eq which i guess ill use, i was hoping to save it but ill use it i suppose
to zack01-im just trying to get a solid10-15lbs(hopefully 15lbs of muscle) i just said 25because theres the water and fat gain.. hopefully not to much..

oh and to everyone.. thanks for the info..
 
ok well then i guess my modified cycle will be....
week1- Dbol 30mg/day
week2- Dbol 30mg/day, sust 400, eq 400mg
week3- Dbol 30mg/day, sust 400, eq 400mg
week4- Dbol 30mg/day, sust 400, eq 400mg
week5- sust 400, eq 400mg
week6- sust 400, eq 400mg
week7- sust 400, eq 400mg, HCG 1500IU.
week8- eq 400mg insulin m/w/f
week9- eq400mg insulin m/w/f
week10- eq400mg
week11-eq300mg
week12-eq100mg
week13-2000 IU HCG
week14- 1000IU hcg, clomid/nolva
week15- clomid/nolva
week16- clomid/nolva, creatine
week17clen
 
oh and guys the only reason why i wanted to keep the cycle of eq and sust at 6weeks is i really dont want to mess with my chances on having kids in the future... like i know your shit shrink a little and comes back thats no prob.. but i just dont want to go steril.. does anyone know like how long you can use steroid in a cycle like yall are suggesting before that becomes an issue???? or what you could do to kinda prevent that thing from happening,
 
zach01 said:
about 25lbs of pretty solid muscle in ten weeks, never seen that in my 17 years lifting.
10-15 maybe of solid muscle
bro i got 22lbs of muscle my first cycle of deca alone. so i disagree its all about the person. i wasn't gainin natty cause i am an ectomorph, but as soon as i went on gear i blew up with the right calorie intake. i mean i did put on 20 natty before jumpin to gear, but i was at a 2 year plateau. my body reacted unreal to the deca. and i am 5% bf so its all muscle, i got the pics to back it.
 
i believe ya.. and i know i usually pack on muscle fairly easy... well pretty easy, as long as i do everything right...
 
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