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full lifts or power versions?
Ummm I guess you must have missed all the clips I have posted of world class olylifters doing these.....
some slo mos of full lifts here
http://www.olympiclifting.citymax.com/page/page/91595.htm
Most of the clips I have posted before are stored here
by EL Senor - don't know how long they will stay here though. Grab em while you can. SOme power versions and some full lifts. You will see how each lifter has a different style.
http://briefcase.yahoo.com/[email protected]
form is good as you will find in each case, at the world class level no one has bad form, even those 14 year old Chinese kids look very good!
The thing that struck me was the speed and fluidity, they don't muscle the weights up, its' all the crisp snap off the legs/hips and traps --> bar shoots up
Ummm I guess you must have missed all the clips I have posted of world class olylifters doing these.....
some slo mos of full lifts here
http://www.olympiclifting.citymax.com/page/page/91595.htm
Most of the clips I have posted before are stored here
by EL Senor - don't know how long they will stay here though. Grab em while you can. SOme power versions and some full lifts. You will see how each lifter has a different style.
http://briefcase.yahoo.com/[email protected]
form is good as you will find in each case, at the world class level no one has bad form, even those 14 year old Chinese kids look very good!
The thing that struck me was the speed and fluidity, they don't muscle the weights up, its' all the crisp snap off the legs/hips and traps --> bar shoots up
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coolcolj
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JOKER47 said:
well you need to be able to frontsquat the way you would catch a powerclean first up, and it should feel fairly comfortable.
The bar should land on the delts, doinga no hands frontsquat will tell you where to place the bar - arms outstretched and place the bar over your delts and do some frontsquats, like the way Dimas worked the abr to the squat rack in the above clips
The brusing means your letting the bar crash on you. Your supposed to meet the bar where you pull it to.
That's a problem for me too when I rack with open hands, not so when I hold onto the bar. Letting the bar drop an inch isn't too bad, but any higher and you will get bruising.
Does take practise, only pull it as high as you need to and no higher.
If your wrist have to bend back a lot like me, then the easiest way is to drop under the bar and rise into it as it tops out so the bar doesn't get to drop at all. Practise it from the high hang to get a feel for it.
The reason being is that my wrist is high above my shoulders so I need to pull the bar higher to clear my wrist in the elbow whip, perhaps I have a timing issue, who knows.
Keeping bar real close to the body helps too. But if it does bruise the collar bone, then the bar is landing too far back against the throat. On the front delts is best since it won't choke or make you black out.
anyway it's not just wrist and forearms - shoulder, lats, cuffs and tricep flexibility is a factor too in the rack psoition. Since I started working on all these areas constantly, I can frontsquat proprly now with no wrist pain etc.
Shoulder dislocates, cuff stretches, lat overhead stretches like doing a pullover on a chin bar (helps jerks a lot!) holding the bar in cleans for a bit of forced stretching has done wonders (the sheer weight of the bar will force the arms back - no pain though after warmup)
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Another question...
How do the olympic lifters get so fast with the weight...from what i hear they just do light to heavy singles throughout a workout and then work back down...on the major lifts....
I think i may have to go to the gym and try this today...just not go to heavy....
How do the olympic lifters get so fast with the weight...from what i hear they just do light to heavy singles throughout a workout and then work back down...on the major lifts....
I think i may have to go to the gym and try this today...just not go to heavy....
coolcolj
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genetics I guess. Slow guys don't do well in olys, and these people here are elite level
But not all are fast, at least in subjective appearance when lifting, though the bar velocity is still fast, but all are strong.
At this level a double bodyweight clean and jerk is a minimal requirement, that takes a lot of brute strength!
So when they do powercleans and powersnatches, it's so much lighter relatively speaking comapred to the full lifts, off course it flies. I mean if you can clean and jerk 200+kg, then a 170kg powerclean is gonna fly.
The lifts you see them doing are mostly sub-maximal, just maintenance workouts a few days before competition, so it's somewhat light to them relatively speaking, except maybe that 190kg powerclean and jerk by Pablo Lara which was a PR for him - almost triple bodyweight!
But yes you do have to work on speed as well in olys, lift at max effort always. The body can't do something fast unless it's done something faster.
But not all are fast, at least in subjective appearance when lifting, though the bar velocity is still fast, but all are strong.
At this level a double bodyweight clean and jerk is a minimal requirement, that takes a lot of brute strength!
So when they do powercleans and powersnatches, it's so much lighter relatively speaking comapred to the full lifts, off course it flies. I mean if you can clean and jerk 200+kg, then a 170kg powerclean is gonna fly.
The lifts you see them doing are mostly sub-maximal, just maintenance workouts a few days before competition, so it's somewhat light to them relatively speaking, except maybe that 190kg powerclean and jerk by Pablo Lara which was a PR for him - almost triple bodyweight!
But yes you do have to work on speed as well in olys, lift at max effort always. The body can't do something fast unless it's done something faster.
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here is a clip I posted before you may have missed, Marc Huster has clean and jerk around 230kg in competition before, so he's quite strong, and competes in the 85kg class.
So the 170kg powerclean and jerk he did he is like 73% of that, not too hard, even though it is slightly over double bodyweight
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http://www.members.optushome.com.au/coolcolj2/Temp/Ironmind_1995_MarcHuster.wmv
So the 170kg powerclean and jerk he did he is like 73% of that, not too hard, even though it is slightly over double bodyweight
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http://www.members.optushome.com.au/coolcolj2/Temp/Ironmind_1995_MarcHuster.wmv
