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illuminati, where could i find out what each of these do? and why they are stacked together.

el vez
 
i was bout 2 ask the same exact thing, they all have diff purposes like one cuts u ones size ones for strength or all r for size lol
 
thats what i heard too, instant. hope we dont get flamed for asking such newbie questions, lol!!
 
well i am going to do nile at 250 mg a week, is it tru that nile is pretty much the same exact thing as organon right? nile and organon r both human grade's right? andl aoso what r the differences between animal grade and human grade? is human grade stronger? or just cleaner so less side effects? u get more or less size gains because it is weaker or stronger or what? please tell me someone!!!! what r the comparisons?
 
illuminati have you ever ran sust with eq. i like the dosage for sust you recomend i already was planning on doing that in my cycle but from wat ive been reading and hearing on the ef forum i am interested in eq? i read some where that it helps lube up your joints or something???

El Vez
 
cmon someone please i;'m waitin for reply, tell me all u know bout sust and if ur really bored tell me bout sust dbol combo lol.
 
I would run it with eq. It will help you to maintain your gains. I think dbol is fairly hard core, if this is your first cycle I would wait. I would run a low sust dosage (250mg) with a high eq dosage (500-600mg). Or just run one or the other. Going with a single type of gear is really the best way to start. Then you can isolate your problems to one specific type if something goes wrong.
 
yeah ur right, but my friend took a dbol only cycle and everyone says these r pointless, well for him he put on 20 pounds bench went up 60 pounds he lost LITTLE strength and not a damn pound, other friend took small ammount of deca sust combo, his bench went up 90 pounds and had 20 pounds in size, so i say screw it i want the size of sust and strength of dbol! mwhahaha what yall think?
 
vezpolo said:
illuminati have you ever ran sust with eq. i like the dosage for sust you recomend i already was planning on doing that in my cycle but from wat ive been reading and hearing on the ef forum i am interested in eq? i read some where that it helps lube up your joints or something???

El Vez


sorry. i have never run sus with eq. my first cycle with sus was just sus, then i ran a sus/dbol cycle, and am currently doing a sus/primo cycle. i really like the sus/primo combo.
IMO dbol is kind of misleading. you put on a bunch of water weight. i went up 25lbs on that cycle, but then lost 10, which was the water i put on from the dbol. as opposed to the sus/primo cycle. i am up 18lbs and have very, very little bloat. i have 2 more weeks left on the cycle, and hopefully with proper PCT, i will retain close to 15lbs, and stay at 220.
 
instant.muscle said:
cmon someone please i;'m waitin for reply, tell me all u know bout sust and if ur really bored tell me bout sust dbol combo lol.
The information you're looking for is literally all over the web. Instead of waiting around for someone to explain it to you why don't you take a look?
 
vezpolo said:
from wat ive been reading and hearing on the ef forum i am interested in eq? i read some where that it helps lube up your joints or something???

El Vez


Deca lubes joints. It's awsome if you have bad knees, like me.
EQ=no lube.
 
i have been researching but its hard 2 find answer 2 a question u gotta search for, yeah deca is good for joints, its good if ur taking winny 2 take deca, winny is hard on ur joints. but please illum post how much what kind u took
 
instant.muscle said:
when u ran ur dbol sust, how much of each for how long, also what kinds was it?


sus 250 (organon) at 500mg's per week for 8 weeks
dbol (naposim) 30mg's per day for 4 weeks, then 20mg's per day for the next two weeks
 
lol, almost same exact as mine, but diff dose of sust,
sust 250 mg everyweek 1-10 weeks
dbol(naps) 30 mg every single day for 6 weeks :-D, how were ur results? strength and size like how much was ur bench and how much it go up on juice? how much strength u keep, how much size u keep?
 
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and also out of all ur sust stacks which have worked the best for size strength and cutness, which did u keep most size n strength gains w/, which most sides? and where did u inject the sust? and what inch needle and gauge?
 
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we might as well change the topic to 20 questions, lol. i wish i could give more karma to the guys who answerd my questions, especialy illuminati! thanks bro. now i just need to hit the books and learn more about deca. i didnt want to include it because of the sides but the lube thing sounds very interesting! see you guys around.

El Vez
 
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