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i1s2c3uk

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I have a question about computer software. At my university, we can purchase software programs very cheap at the campus book store. I belive that microsoft visual studio, which runs about $900, only will cost me ~30. Is it illegal for me to buy this software, and then resell the original software to someone at a higher price?
 
i don't believe its illegal, why would it be? and what do you care if it is? you are on a steriod website asking about that pussy shit?
 
I dont belive you. Why dont more people do it than?

Since you say its legal darktooth, how would i got about selling the software, seriousley, put an add in the pennysaver?

Are there sites on the web i can advertize my software on?
 
MaGilicuti said:
i don't believe its illegal, why would it be? and what do you care if it is? you are on a steriod website asking about that pussy shit?

How is my question pussy shit? Are you saying im a pussy, i'd like to see you outbench me magookie.

Im not here to talk shit, dont most uni's offer software so cheap? If so why dont more people make money off it, im sure im not the first person that can put 2 and 2 togeather and realize that i can make lots of money if im buying $1,000 software for $25 bucks.
 
i'm not saying i'm stronger then you, i'm saying you are a pussy. completely different.

you are scared to sell software? you think microsoft is gonna find you? maybe thanks to this post they will. maybe the software isn't the exact copy? you should look into it. and who is gonna report you if you sell it? the person who bought it? fuck it i'm calling the police
 
im talking about visual studio, it runs for about a thousand. i dont want to get in trouble cuz im a gook kid. thanks for the advice though.

how can i go about advertizing the software? anyone have suggestions?
 
it is an educational license. if you buy visual studio from the bookstore you are not legally alowed to sell anything that you write.

they would never prosecute a recreational user. Actually, i think my XP pro has an educational license on it.

BUT, if i do an ed visual studio enterprise, and they found me, FINES FINES FINES.
 
i1s2c3uk said:
puc, im talking about selling the actual software. would that too be illegal?

i don't know, but who would you sell it to? other students can get the same thing. Anybody who is not a student is planning on using it for production purposes, so THEY would be breaking the law.
 
how would they (or the police or whoever would prosecute/fine them) know where it had been bought? DOnt they sell the same things in regular stores?
 
they have different license keys. Also, now Microsoft uses a new copy protection where after 30 or so days the software makes a hash based on various settings in your system and sends it to Microsoft. This means if you move that software to another machine, you have to get Microsoft to give you permission. Also, if you modify enough of your current system (change the hard drive, video card, etc.) you have to get them to reactivate it also.

I Would say you would be fine if you paid cash, did not use your student id at the bookstore, and sold to people you KNOW would not rat you out if THEY got busted. Because, it is they who would get caught.

Chances are they would turn on you. You would be in violation of the license because i am sure it does not come with resale privileges. you would get fucked.
 
Pretty much what everyone else said on here. It's not legal.

Most of the time, Microsoft conspicuously marks the packaging and/or CD as educational, and not for resale.

That being said, the chances of you getting caught are pretty slim unless you start running some sort of major software piracy ring.

Educational copies get sold on eBay all the time.
 
everything they said above with the following added....

fuck microsoft, there ability to manipulate the market and also force users to buy MULTIPLE copies of a software they purchese for self use is total bullshit, if im forking out 99$ for an xp upgrade then goddamn it i want to be able to use that upgrade as many fucking times as i wish, not bend over and take it in the ass from microsoft because they decided it was a way to increase revenue.
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supernav said:
Software companies are ABOVE the law according to them. They can pretty much make ANY kind of law and force you to accept it.

Think about it.

When you buy a car, do you have to sign a paper from Ford saying you can only do this with the car, and can't do that with the car, and can't let anyoen borrow it, etc. etc.

When you buy a TV from RCA, do they give you a big long sheet saying you have this and this rights?

When you buy a microwave, does it come with tons of "license agreement notes" that if you do something wrong, they can come after you?

ONLY in the software world, can they pretty much do whatever they please. Force you to upgrade later, force you to only keep certain copes, force you to buy the whole package if the cd gets even one scratch, since they force you to NOT make a backup cd, force you to be stuck with the product if it doesn't work on your computer, force you to pay $50 to get support since their free support is setup for a nice 9 hour wait, and email support is non-existent.

Software (micrsoft hack hack) is one of the lousiest, most untrusty, unreliable products in America. If we made cars like we make software -- we'd have accidents all over the fucking place. No wonder the Japanese told us to keep the software market, they'll have the hardware market thank you.

-= nav =-

it isn't microsoft. it is the industry. microsoft is in command now, for sure. But, it would be some other giant, otherwise. sun, ibm... pick your demon. none of the giants are benevolent.
 
supernav said:
Software companies are ABOVE the law according to them. They can pretty much make ANY kind of law and force you to accept it.

Think about it.

When you buy a car, do you have to sign a paper from Ford saying you can only do this with the car, and can't do that with the car, and can't let anyoen borrow it, etc. etc.

When you buy a TV from RCA, do they give you a big long sheet saying you have this and this rights?

When you buy a microwave, does it come with tons of "license agreement notes" that if you do something wrong, they can come after you?

ONLY in the software world, can they pretty much do whatever they please. Force you to upgrade later, force you to only keep certain copes, force you to buy the whole package if the cd gets even one scratch, since they force you to NOT make a backup cd, force you to be stuck with the product if it doesn't work on your computer, force you to pay $50 to get support since their free support is setup for a nice 9 hour wait, and email support is non-existent.

Software (micrsoft hack hack) is one of the lousiest, most untrusty, unreliable products in America. If we made cars like we make software -- we'd have accidents all over the fucking place. No wonder the Japanese told us to keep the software market, they'll have the hardware market thank you.

-= nav =-

you know, the more i think about this, the more i think this analogy is shit. Software should not be compared to cars, it should be compared to books. You can buy a book, read it wherever you want, and burn it if you like. You cannot, however, make photocopies and sell them. Your book purchase does not give you the right to read in a public setting and charge an admission fee. It does not give you the right to script a screenplay.
 
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