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Does any have any suggestions for a program which cleans your drive so it can not be used as evidence against you?
If you are using an anonymous web based email account then if you should be covering your tracks when dealing with certain matters. I plan on giving my computer a good washing and plan on doing so every time I send or receive sensitive information.
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Evidence Eliminator - it completely removes the files you choose, including cleaning out the registry.

For those that don't know, even a formatted hard drive can be restored to find specific data. This program will completely remove what you don't want to be found. I'm sure there are others but there's a crack on the web for this one so you can get it for free.
 
well this is kinda my area since im a systems admin, there is real no way of cleaning your drives, best suggestion is a big magnet or a big hammer, but if those are out of the question just kill the partition, it will atleast have to be sent to a crime lab to get what data is one it off, and If your doing something that would constitute the police to do that then I'd rather not give you advise :P
 
window(s?) washer.... can be downloaded and then d/l the crack for it.. then u got it free.... search on astalavista.com i think...:p
 
Swoleyoley said:
well this is kinda my area since im a systems admin, there is real no way of cleaning your drives, best suggestion is a big magnet or a big hammer, but if those are out of the question just kill the partition, it will atleast have to be sent to a crime lab to get what data is one it off, and If your doing something that would constitute the police to do that then I'd rather not give you advise :P
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um.... if he gets juice over internet communications... have u done the same? why wouldnt you want to give him advice..?lol:p
 
there not gonna send your computer to a fbi crime to see if you are ordering juice online, you know how much they pay those people, they would not waste there time on stuff like that.
 
Swoleyoley said:
there is real no way of cleaning your drives
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Sorry but this is an incorrect statement.
The software programs quoted will permanently delete selected data. It has been proven in a case with EE.
 
mvmaxx said:


Sorry but this is an incorrect statement.
The software programs quoted will permanently delete selected data. It has been proven in a case with EE.
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if they want it, they will get it...end of storey.
 
hey easy now! i am on ME and love it, had it almost a year and a half, overclocked also p-3 700 @ 933, never crashes on me, rock solid! guess i am lucky? later juice headz :)
 
I think there is a utility on the norton systemworks disk that does it, but i cant remember what its called.
 
This is not entirely true.
We're not talking about rocket science.

Please remember, a hard drive is magnetic media, north:south, or yes:no. It's easy to re-arrange these two variables sufficiently to remove the previously arranged state of the disk. This new arrangement renders the old state oblivious to the new state.

Low level recovery is possible.
There are some minor caveats here though. Magnetic media has a current state but there are often signs of a previous state. But the present rate of recovery is abysmal, roughly 25% recovery.

Government agencies and some disk recovery companies fill in the blanks using tempest data, guess work and plan old templates.

Also keep in mind, that restored data is not admissable in federal court. The restorative rates are too low to be considered valid.
 
Whoa whoa whoa there sk*, back the train up a bit.

There is no such thing as secure e-mail?? Are you serious?

Please see my thread ...

If by your statement there is no provably secure form of encryption you are correct...doing so is not possible.
 
You could get a program called Scramdisk which is free and it will encrypt whatever you want it to. For instance you can create a container of say 300 megs and then put your browser (preferebly netscape an older version if you can) in it and any other programs you want and it will transparantly encrypt decrypt on the fly Note: just make sure your passphrase is very complex as it will be the key to the encryptions strength also you may use with this a proxy server when sending out private info to protect your IP address
 
OK, hold on. This is what I do for a living. There are many tools that will wipe a drive. The semi-current DOD standard is 14 time, that is the drive must be written with a random pattern 14 times.

As for recovered drive data as evidence, it can hold up easy - it all depends how convincing you are as a expert witness and how good the lawyers are.

Go with the crypto option, and the wipe option. Also the mag. field is mostly bullshit anymore. The field required to achive the same results as the 14 pass wipe would actually have to be strong enough to bend the media.
 
the best thing that you could do is rig small amounts of explosives in ur computer /w a wireless detonator that's connected to ur watch.. when u see a suspicious stranger approaching u.. u need to blow that sucka up!!! THAT'S THE FOR SURE WAY!!!!!!! I would like to see them get around that.. muahaha
 
A more feasible way would be to write a script or batch file that would execute an fdisk command that would surely wipe out your partition.. from my knowledge I don't think that they will be able to get to ur files... and also make sure that u've created a drive image onto a cd(don't keep this in ur house!) that would restore everything when the coast is clear..

PM me for further instructions....
 
fdisk is recoverable. besides whenever I do forensic work on a PC the tools I use connect via null modem cable. The host OS, partitions, filesystems don't matter to me at all. I would look for data all over the drive.
 
mvmaxx said:


Sorry but this is an incorrect statement.
The software programs quoted will permanently delete selected data. It has been proven in a case with EE.
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Not trying to be a dick but your completely and utterly wrong.

I would never trust Evidence Eliminator. 1, it's closed source. 2, they purposely distribute crippled versions to cut down on piracy. How are you to know if the software is working exactly as advertised?

Voodoo, is correct. You have to consider who your trying to hide the information from. I question whether it's even possible to have a usuable system that information cannot be recovered from given the right amount of resources. If your just worried about a local police raid, I'd use one of the many programs which will completely wipe the disk with alternating bit patterns. They'd have to be pretty damn determined to get anything after that.
 
Here you go...

Fdisk the drive then wipe out both primary and secondary (or all) partitions.
Reboot to a bootable floppy.
Format the drive
Fdisk the system again getting rid of all partitions.
Last step.... use a rubber headed hammer and hit the drive. It won't look as bad as a regular hammer and the platters inside will crash. The spindle will no longer work and even if the gov. (NSA) used their tech. to rebuild your drive with new spindles and sinner heads, the drive was fdisk'ed twice and will have no partions to recover data from let alone a file filler that allows low level recovery from a formatted drive.

Good luck...
PS. The best tool I ever used was Triple Eraser Software. It can erase a drive up to 12 times. NSA uses this and so do big forture 200 firms.

Aikido:D
 
OK, my bad the current DOD standard is not 14, its 26. You may want to check out this tool (free)

http://www.sysinternals.com/ntw2k/source/sdelete.shtml

It will also go over slack or blank space.

Also, not to be a pain again but fdisk wont do shit. It deletes pointers to the partition(s). This is on the MBR for primary partitions. Extended partitions information is "extended" to the end of the primary(s). Fdisk will never touch the file system and if you now the drive specs you can recreate the info with a disk editor. Again there is no point in doing that, as forensic software will function with or without it.
 
East-tech eraser bro.

Its used by the deparment of defense. It removes file beyond software recovery and beyond hardware recovery. It erases files and it erases your temporary internet files, cookies ALL that. email me and i will set up ftp and let you download.

johnboy1@ (Here, its secure)
 
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