Complete Proteins -- Mr. X?

[Legion Kreinak2]

Mr. X, you can milk protein isn't complete right? Can you tell me which of the following ARE?

Tuna
Chicken Breast
Natural PB
Whole Wheat Bread
Maple Granola
Eggs
Oatmeal
Asparagus
Baked Potatoes

Yeah... that's what my diet consists of, so that's why I ask. To boost calories and protein can I just throw in cans of tuna here and there?

 

[Stryc-9]

As a general rule of thumb, most plant foods contain incomplete proteins...and most animal foods contain complete proteins....

Milk is a complete protein (if you define "complete" as containing all of the amino acids necessary to produce usable protein for the body). I think milk sits at 4% protein by weight with excellent bioavailability - although not as good as beef, poultry, fish or eggs...

Remember that plant proteins can be combined (think of what vegetarian bodybuilders must do!!) to make complete proteins...

 

[Mr.X]

Mr. X, you can milk protein isn't complete right? Can you tell me which of the following ARE?
Actually, complete proteins are defined by the complete amino acid chain, so, in turn, milk is a complete protein; although it's digestion is a distorted question, it's still a complete protein

Tuna
complete

Chicken Breast
complete

Natural PB
complete

Whole Wheat Bread
incomplete

Maple Granola
incomplete

Eggs
complete

Oatmeal
Asparagus
incomplete....eventhough oats are close I would challenge the fact of them being a complete protein
Baked Potatoes

Yeah... that's what my diet consists of, so that's why I ask. To boost calories and protein can I just throw in cans of tuna here and there?
Yes, to increase the amount of protein intake you can either add sold proteins like tuna/chicken or go w/ powders, either way you'll be getting the protein

Mr.X

 

[Legion Kreinak2]

Alright, just wanted to make sure. I'll still keep milk and fructose out of my diet, right? Now just to go to the store and load up on natural PB, tuna, and oatmeal. I'll use those as my "munchies". By the way, should I not have carbs/fats in the same meal? I heard it was bad. If so, why, and what would be considered "Carbs" and "Fats"? Granola and Flaxseed Oil respectively? If so, I have those both in the same meal twice! Meal 2 and 5 (5 being post-workout -- carbs are good post-workout, yes?)

 

[Mr.X]

Alright, just wanted to make sure. I'll still keep milk and fructose out of my diet, right? Now just to go to the store and load up on natural PB, tuna, and oatmeal. I'll use those as my "munchies". By the way, should I not have carbs/fats in the same meal? I heard it was bad. If so, why, and what would be considered "Carbs" and "Fats"? Granola and Flaxseed Oil respectively? If so, I have those both in the same meal twice! Meal 2 and 5 (5 being post-workout -- carbs are good post-workout, yes?)

Correct, keep the fructose and lactose out of the diet......

Carbs and fats in the same meal, that all depends on the type of carbs and fats. If you're taking in 1/2 cup oatmeal w/ 1 tbsp. flaxseed oil, then you should not worry. On the other hand 100g dextrose w/ 3 tbsp. of butter is a different story.

Carbs are good post-workout, but make sure you have near 0 fat in your postworkout meals/shakes because fat slows down absorption, which triggors a slow down in anabolism.

Mr.X

 

[Legion Kreinak2]

Oh, shit. So no flax post-workout then, I suppose.

 

[Stryc-9]

You got it...no flax post-workout.

Like X said - it merely serves to slow down the absorption of protein. On the plus side - there are lots of times when you might want your body to absorb protein more slowly. If you ever have to go more than three hours without eating - make sure your last meal has a good dose of (healthy) fats along with protein...

Before you sleep is also a good time for the flax.

 

[Mr.X]

Oh, shit. So no flax post-workout then, I suppose.

That is correct, only high-gi and fast digesting proteins post-workout. Otherwise, some anabolic effect is missed.

Mr.X

 

[MFMan]

 

[princess]

i typically do a whey and malto shake post w/o. but i want to try something different for a while and drop the malto (i'm trying to drop a little chub) to see if this makes any sort of difference.

what i was thinking of doing was mixing my whey with some oatmeal...but since oatmeal is low-gi, is this a bad idea?

any suggestions?

 

[Mr.X]

i typically do a whey and malto shake post w/o. but i want to try something different for a while and drop the malto (i'm trying to drop a little chub) to see if this makes any sort of difference.

what i was thinking of doing was mixing my whey with some oatmeal...but since oatmeal is low-gi, is this a bad idea?

any suggestions?

whey w/ oatmeal is probably NOT the best idea for postworkoug. However, I have had people I train try this: right before the workout eat 1/2 cup oatmeal w/ 30g whey, (assuming 45min workout). Thereafter, just drink a shake, as far as I'm concerned the oatmeal should start digestion about 30min in and continue slowly releasing glucose. Not the best way to go, but you can look into it.

Mr.X

 

[princess]

good idea. Thx!

 

[Legion Kreinak2]

What form of carbs should I go for Mr. X? Postworkout, that is. Will the granola be good, or does it digest too slow (which seems to be the problem with oatmeal)?

 

[anthrax]

If you want to stick to real food, eggs are certainly the most complete proteins sources