comments on cycle

[Wild Wig]

Stats 5'8-9" 178 14%-16% BF 24 YEARS OLD, second stacked cycle.

I have some supertest 450 I want to use it 1/2 ml every sun, and wed for 10 weeks. I also have some winstrol tabs I have enough for 7 weeks @50mg daily starting on the 7th week of the test. I want to kick start the cycle with 25mgs daily of dbol for the first 4 weeks of the cycle. I have some tren acetate 75mg 10ml- 1 bottle planning on 1 ml eod. When do you suggest that I put it into the cycle I was thinking maybe week 5 what do you guys think. Thank you for the advise.

 

[02gixxersix]

Don't use the dbol and winstrol in the same cycle. They're both 17aa and you don't need it. I think I would run the tren up front, and the dbol for the last 4 weeks right up to PCT. So maybe the last week of test start taking the dbol and then run it until the start of clomid/nolva. I know this isn't the traditional way of doing things but I think throwing the dbol in at the end would be nice because sometime gains star to slow down as time progresses and it would be a nice little jolt at the end.

 

[Wild Wig]

Don't use the Dianabol - methandrostenolone - and winstrol in the same cycle. They're both 17 alpha-alkylated and you don't need it. I think I would run the trenbolone up front, and the Dianabol - methandrostenolone - for the last 4 weeks right up to PCT - post cycle therapy - . So maybe the last week of test start taking the Dianabol - methandrostenolone - and then run it until the start of clomid/Nolvaldex - tamoxifen citrate - . I know this isn't the traditional way of doing things but I think throwing the Dianabol - methandrostenolone - in at the end would be nice because sometime gains star to slow down as time progresses and it would be a nice little jolt at the end.

Thanks for the advise I will take it into consideration.

 

[GUARDIAN]

1) u dont have enuf tren

2) u can use the dbol & winny in the same cycle but it will be harsh on the liver. i have done it. try to put 3 or 4 weeks between the two and get some milk thistle

3) be prepared for the super test to hurt. warm that shit up.

 

[Wild Wig]

1) u dont have enuf trenbolone

2) u can use the Dianabol - methandrostenolone - & Winstrol - stanozolol in the same cycle but it will be harsh on the liver. i have done it. try to put 3 or 4 weeks between the two and get some milk thistle

3) be prepared for the super test to hurt. warm that shit up.

My body reacts to trenbolone like I have never seen. I took some once before knowing anything about it I took it on sun and wed for 5 weeks and put on 10 lbs kept 8 of it. So if I use the tren better at the first or at the end?Thanks for the advise

 

[02gixxersix]

I'd use it in the front but yeah I didn't see the fact that you only have 3 weeks worth. Try to get another bottle and I still wouldn't run both orals.

 

[GUARDIAN]

My body reacts to trenbolone like I have never seen. I took some once before knowing anything about it I took it on sun and wed for 5 weeks and put on 10 lbs kept 8 of it. So if I use the trenbolone better at the first or at the end?Thanks for the advise

yeah but this time around u only have 3 weeks worth.

i say at the end, in general, but that is just a personal preference.

 

[Wild Wig]

I'd use it in the front but yeah I didn't see the fact that you only have 3 weeks worth. Try to get another bottle and I still wouldn't run both orals.

Thanks

 

[Wild Wig]

yeah but this time around u only have 3 weeks worth.

i say at the end, in general, but that is just a personal preference.

Thanks

 

[todoveritas]

1) u dont have enuf trenbolone

2) u can use the Dianabol - methandrostenolone - & Winstrol - stanozolol in the same cycle but it will be harsh on the liver. i have done it.

Hey 8! I have been hearing about some pretty decent anecdotal benefits using the two D.bol 20 + W.inny 10 together. (Syngergism keeping overall 17 alpha < 50 mg QD) The theory is that mini-dose w.inny is used to increase free Test by decreasing SHBG. Know anything about that?

 

[GUARDIAN]

Hey 8! I have been hearing about some pretty decent anecdotal benefits using the two D.bol 20 + W.inny 10 together. (Syngergism keeping overall 17 alpha < 50 mg QD) The theory is that mini-dose w.inny is used to increase free Test by decreasing SHBG. Know anything about that?

I can't do any searches for it at the moment (my university library account is under maintanence for the next few hours) but it is true about the winstrol and SHBG (not quite as effective as proviron). As far as the dbol & winny combo I think the 10mg pre and 10mg post for dbol and 25-30mg of winny works best. I believe the <50mg thought process was due to the liver.

http://jcem.endojournals.org/cgi/reprint/85/9/3245.pdf

 

[todoveritas]

Great read, 8. Thanks for the link!