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Coming off after 10 months

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Enock

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I'm coming off everything now and going to stay clean for quite a while to get my body back in sort and see if my nuts still work.

10months is long but not unheard of the problem is during a good portion of that 10months I was running Tren sometimes at very high dose. Havn't run tren in about 3 months but I have run EQ and winny and a small amount of cyp.

Here's my dilema I don't have much money. (Some of the reason I need to come off I can't afford everything I need to stay on and function normal like accutane and proviron.)

I do already have nolvadex and femera, 5mg dbol tabs, Puira Sevia, Maca for things that could possibly help come off.

I just injected about 4grams of cyp on a front load over 3 days about 3 days ago. (see after being on all that time I ended up in the hospital for a non steroid reason and lost 22ibs of LBM I was going to do a CYP fina bulker because I was quite angered at losing all that.. but now I decided I've been on too long and I just have to except being small again.

Any suggested regimen for coming off? I do have a little money but I've my doulbts about the effectiveness of HCG for recovery and clomid being anybetter than nolva, femera (plus I've no accutane coudlnt handle the clomid acne).
 
What in the hell possessed you to hit 4000 mg in one week! Are you a top level pro? god I hope you did not run tren for 10 months.

Ok now on to the problem.
Did you have any post cycle blood work done? It would help to know what your normal free T levels are. If you did get bloodwork done then you need to get it done again to see where you are at. HCG, and nolva might do some good. After that get bloodwork done again to see where you are at. More that likely you will have to go on HRT.
 
What in the hell possessed you to hit 4000 mg in one week! Are you a top level pro? god I hope you did not run tren for 10 months.

Ok now on to the problem.
Did you have any post cycle blood work done? It would help to know what your normal free T levels are. If you did get bloodwork done then you need to get it done again to see where you are at. HCG, and nolva might do some good. After that get bloodwork done again to see where you are at. More that likely you will have to go on HRT.
 
I agree. Come off slow. I'll bump this for some vets to reply.
 
Man, I've done quite a few cycles that long, but never injected 4 grams of test at a time. Holly shit, that is a lot of test. You already heard your answer however, come off over about a 1-2 month period, and the HCG and clomid should help you out fine. Good luck.
 
yea ur crazy bro. there is absolutely no need for that much test, not to mention how expensive that injection was. no wonder you cant afford to stay on. and how long were you in the hospital to lose 22 lbs?????
 
Threads move so fast on this boared lost track of this.

In hospital 11 days. (In coma and they didn't feed me because my body couldnt take it).

Also don't believe 4g of cyp is the same as 4g of a faster ester or at a later time remember its going from no test in system to a slow releaseing ester. But yeah as for sides I know was from it voice deepened a lil, acne at first till I stabalized.
 
Nelson Montana said:
You're fucked.
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I rate that as one of the most helpful quotes on the whole board! You should feel very proud of yourself for helping him out in such a way, kudo's to you! :)
 
Lighten up BrickGirl.

I believe I've payed my dues in regard to contibutions on this board. But when someone acts like an irresponsible idiot and then whines for help, I feel they're not only non-deserving, but they probably wouldn't listen anyway. I doubt if this poor sap even have the intellect to follow advice. He already rejected his only option, which is HCG.

He's running out of money and running into problems so he decides to do a hit of FOUR GRAMS OF TEST?!? And we're supposed to mollycoddle him? He deserves what he gets.

The bottom line is, he's in for a host of problems any way you look at it.

In other words, he's fucked.

Let that be a lesson to him -- and everyone else.
 
Lighten up BrickGirl.

I believe I've payed my dues in regard to contibutions on this board. But when someone acts like an irresponsible idiot and then whines for help, I feel they're not only non-deserving, but they probably wouldn't listen anyway. I doubt if this poor sap even have the intellect to follow advice. He already rejected his only option, which is HCG.

He's running out of money and running into problems so he decides to do a hit of FOUR GRAMS OF TEST?!? And we're supposed to mollycoddle him? He deserves what he gets.

The bottom line is, he's in for a host of problems any way you look at it.

In other words, he's fucked.

Let that be a lesson to him -- and everyone else.
 
so the individual made a mistake, it happens, it's best that he came here to ask for help on how to remedy the situation. I personally don't believe in giving up on someone because they made a mistake. But everyone is different I guess :)
 
Enock said:
I'm coming off everything now and going to stay clean for quite a while to get my body back in sort and see if my nuts still work.

10months is long but not unheard of the problem is during a good portion of that 10months I was running Tren sometimes at very high dose. Havn't run tren in about 3 months but I have run EQ and winny and a small amount of cyp.

Here's my dilema I don't have much money. (Some of the reason I need to come off I can't afford everything I need to stay on and function normal like accutane and proviron.)

I do already have nolvadex and femera, 5mg dbol tabs, Puira Sevia, Maca for things that could possibly help come off.

I just injected about 4grams of cyp on a front load over 3 days about 3 days ago. (see after being on all that time I ended up in the hospital for a non steroid reason and lost 22ibs of LBM I was going to do a CYP fina bulker because I was quite angered at losing all that.. but now I decided I've been on too long and I just have to except being small again.

Any suggested regimen for coming off? I do have a little money but I've my doulbts about the effectiveness of HCG for recovery and clomid being anybetter than nolva, femera (plus I've no accutane coudlnt handle the clomid acne).
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Your post is a little hard to understand, however, the bottom line is that you're going to come off and stay clean for a while and you need advice for doing that.

I'd start with HCG at 500iu ed for 2 weeks. Forget about femara now, or anything else for that matter. Up to you if you want to run clomid after the HCG, I personally don't use clomid but that's NOT saying to you don't use it. After a month evaluate where you're at and how you're feeling. I'd consider running the HCG again for two more weeks if you're still not yourself.

However, for more help you need to provide more info on what your cycle(s) were like, length of time on, cycle content, dosages, time(s) since off, your age, etc.

But one thing is apparent to me is that you are relying on AS for your size. Forget it! Get off and stay off for a long while. IMO you need to mature in your knowledge of this type of life before you go on AS ever again. I don't mean that as a put-down but you obviously do not know some fundamental, yet crucial concepts.

When you begin to feel yourself again and if you're so inclined, go back in the gym and train hard AND smart, eat big AND healthy and get the proper rest. While you're doing that you can begin to educate yourself on the safe and proper use of AS in an existing anabolic environment. Use them to supplement, not replace what will really give you size and strength: intelligent hard work, healthy, ample food, and rest.

Man that's the best advice I could give you.

Oh yeah, and pray too. :)
 
A mistake is making the wrong choice at a particular moment. This guy had 300 days of making the same mistake.

It's egotistical to believe that your advice (or anyone else's) will turn things around. Having to deal with his problem will be the best thing for him.

Anyway...he'll live.
 
see after being on all that time I ended up in the hospital for a non steroid reason and lost 22ibs of LBM I was going to do a CYP fina bulker because I was quite angered at losing all that
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Sorry to burst your bubble bro but that was not 22lbs of LBM you lost. Thats all in your head. Your wayyyy too paranoid and obsessed with your body, you need to take it slower. You obviously lost a TON of water.
 
I think that you should use HCG. Normally two weeks would be enough, but in your case, you may want to consider running it for 4 weeks, or however long it takes for your nuts to get back to normal. I don't really see the point of using any anti-e at this point b/c your body isn't producing enough test that you need to worry about aromatization.
 
40butpumpin: Gotta disaagree with you. It isn't compasionate. It's ego. People offer compassion to feel better about themselves.

The truth is, if this guy realizes he fucked up big time, maybe he won't do it again. If everyone holds his hand and says "Poor baby made a mistake, it'll be okay " it only reinforces the fact that he didn't do anything wrong.

Sorry. I'm a parent. And I've found the best way to teach a child, isn't to punish them or to let them think that everything they do is just fine. You have to let them know when they fuck up, and that there are consequences for one's actions. You play, you pay.
 
Nelson, I think a number of bros already told him he screwed up. And, as you indicated, his body is going to tell him as well here shortly. I don't see a need to now ridicule & bash him over the head with it yet again. This isn't a dog we are trying to train here, its a real person...:bawling: ....he's got feelings too......:bawling:
 
I'll just say that there's a difference between "let them know" and 'let them go.' I believe you're frustrated with some of these young people using AS in an uneducated (stupid) way and getting themselves into trouble as a result. I definitely understand that frustration. Unfortunately, that will never go away. You know that man. So hang in there, bro, just hang in there. :)
 
I want to thank tho's of you that supplied to helpful input. I'll clarify on my situation a bit.

Been on a long time yes foolish i know. I had impressioned in my head that I needed to inorder to keep the modeling income coming in. After the hospitalization I surely did lose that much for various reasons and drugs I was on. I was 205 now 180. Its not alot of water 180 is my weight after being out of the hospital for a week and back on a weight gaining diet. I'm as lean now as I was at 205. My mistake was using fina and various drugs to keep me in a very low bodyfat condition without being catabolic for a long period of time I know it was a mistake.

Why no money now?

Simple after the hospital I don't have the same look needed. hence no income. I have enough money to get HCG ect..

One of the reasons I was asking is because I said I already had Nolvadex and I've been reading about it being better than usind clomid post cycle for recovery. I don't want to buy clomid and use that if i have a supior option already in hand.

(oh update on weight upto 182, 2 weeks out from the incident)

PS. oh and yes the front load is foolish too. TEST is dirt cheap and I've alot of it. That wasn't the money issue of staying on. Juice is the cheapest part of a cycle, its all the safety nets and precautions that cost (sounds pretty dumb saying safety and precautions coming from someone who made my mistakes I know, but it still holds true)

When you lose you career you go a little crazy wanting to be back to how you once were. I realize I can't do it. Not only because of the cost but because its just time to come off and that muscle will come back natural. I don't need to stay so lean now since I don't have the job anymore.


Heres the plan so far
HCG + nolva (heard HCG can cause gyno I've like 3 bottles of the liquid) untill balls are back

Then drop HCG coninue nolvadex untill better. does femera+nolva help more or no?

Then, re-evaluate treatment after sometime of continuous nolvadex usage.
 
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