combine primo and tren?

[falcyou]

i definatley wanna start a Primo cycle.
just curious if it would be solid cycle to combine Trenbolone Eth or if I was better off doing primo/EQ/winny

I wanna stay away from orals for awhile as it fucked me up a bit on my last Dbol tab cycle. any advice from the MASTERS would be all good my brothers...

I'm 5'9" 164lbs 11% BF
end goal is 190 9% BF, so i wanna add lean muscle.

 

[Makavelli]

Interesting choice. I've never seen anyone do it, but it looks good.

 

[Guvna]

There would really be no point at all. Tren destroys primo in every single aspect. You probably would barely notice any difference at all if you ran primo with tren. The whole point of primo is low sides and nice lean gains. You will completely ruin any advantage primo has by running it with tren.

How exactly did dbol "fuck you up?"

 

[Tux]

Well you won't reach your goals with any cycle that's even close to sane. You want to gain 26lbs of muscle while reducing bf 2%? If that's a long-term goal, ok, but in the short-term, you could gain mass just fine without gear. At 5'9", you should be able to get over 164lbs naturally with no problems, if you couldn't you'd be an ectomorph and you'd have less than 11%bf. I'm 5'5" and can hold 170-175lbs and 10% without gear, 4 inches shorter than you bro. If you're going to do another cycle though, tren would do you much better than primo, and EQ would help with appetite. That's the cycle I'm doing right now, EQ/Tren enth, winny at the end... but this is more hard-core cutting, precompetition.

 

[falcyou]

i did a 9 week dbol stint and ended up bleeding protein into my kidneys (got infection) and cholesterol levels were worse my doc had ever seen.

I have ben dropping weight like crazy, can't seem to keep it on.
I was 5'9" 196lbs but at about 14-15% BF about 4 months ago. did a cuting cycle of winny/clen/cytomel. dropped 25+lbs but did get my BF down. now i can seem to get over 168 naturally (used to walk around at about 177 w/out any supps) and yeah, i was speaking about my end goals...not result of 1 cycle. for this cycle i'm lloking to gain 10-12 lbs of lean muscle THAT I CAN KEEP after cycle.

so you guys recommend Trenbolone over Primo? I definatley don't want the acne side effects... had to get on accutane when i was on d-bol. (my doc said he will not pprescribe another accutane dose) good news is it cleared all zits from the dbol in like 2 weeks.

 

[Indy]

Interesting choice. I've never seen anyone do it, but it looks good.

Satch and I have been discussing this offline quite abit lately, will most likely experiment with it this spring.

 

[falcyou]

will i put on 10-12lbs w/ Primo and EQ or would I be better doing some TEST w/ the primo? I'm thinking the Clen and the Cytomel towards the end will help keep my BF% down.

 

[JeSt3r]

honestly i may not know as much as the "Masters" but im thinking

Test Prop / EQ / Winny / Clen

......save ur money on the primo if ur gonna run test...it COMPLETLY negates the point of running the primo

 

[Dieselgoku23]

Just a word of advise never run orals specially Dbol for no more then 4 weeks max 6 weeks, what dosage were you taking?? and I agree you can get bigger naturally at 164lbs I dont even think you reach your genetic potential just my .02 cents good luck homeboy

 

[paul allen]

had to get on accutane when i was on d-bol. (my doc said he will not pprescribe another accutane dose) good news is it cleared all zits from the dbol in like 2 weeks.

Not that dbol isn't tough on the liver, but if you were on accutane at the same time that is what probably caused your liver/kidneys and cholesterol levels to fuck up. Thats exactly what accutane does.

On the thread topic. I'm about to start 12 week primo/test cutter and going to do a 3 week kick start with tren. I'll let you know how it goes!

 

[athlete.03]

It souns like you haven't invested in the gear yet. If you haven't, and those are your goals, I would strongly recommend looking into another cycle altogether.

You have reason to be concerned about your health before you even begin a cycle. In your case, and I mean no offense by this, I'd recommend getting the following tests done by your PCP before you start deciding what gear to order. These can be done from a simple blood test and are relatively cheap:
1) A CBC (complete blood count, just to see if everything's alright)
2) A liver values/cholesterol test
3) A testosterone check
4) A kidney function test

If everything works out, and with the goals you have, I'd have to say a tren/EQ/Winny cycle be more likely to help you achieve your goals.

What doses are you considering?

 

[Indy]

honestly i may not know as much as the "Masters" but im thinking

Test Prop / EQ / Winny / Clen

......save ur money on the primo if ur gonna run test...it COMPLETLY negates the point of running the primo

How does test, the base of all cycles, negate the use of Primo ??? Explain this to us !! I do have to disagree, but would like to hear what your point of view is, are you speaking of safety and lack of sides in Primo vs. other gear ??

 

[JeSt3r]

How does test, the base of all cycles, negate the use of Primo ??? Explain this to us !! I do have to disagree, but would like to hear what your point of view is, are you speaking of safety and lack of sides in Primo vs. other gear ??

Ok well if your going to spend the money on a practially NO- side steroid why in the hell would you combine it with one of the most side effect causing steroids?

If your going to stack with test use tren/eq/winny or sumthing along those lines....

but if your going to stack with primo i'd say var, winny(if your not prone to hairloss) or EQ(besides the apetite) would be better....because they all have less chance of sides than test does...

its just common sense bro..dont waste all the money on the primo IMO.....just how i see it

 

[Indy]

Ok well if your going to spend the money on a practially NO- side steroid why in the hell would you combine it with one of the most side effect causing steroids?

If your going to stack with test use tren/eq/winny or sumthing along those lines....

but if your going to stack with primo i'd say var, winny(if your not prone to hairloss) or EQ(besides the apetite) would be better....because they all have less chance of sides than test does...

its just common sense bro..dont waste all the money on the primo IMO.....just how i see it

Well I kind of thought was your mode of thinking, cause I thought the same thing as far as sides and cost

 

[Makavelli]

Satch and I have been discussing this offline quite abit lately, will most likely experiment with it this spring.

I'd really be interested to see the results of this. I'm sure you'd be hard as fuck if you dieted with it. I've seen guys use these in addition to others in a pre-contest cycle, but not alone.

 

[JeSt3r]

i mean if your going to stack primo with test....i'd stack it with prop hands down....

 

[satchboogie]

Satch and I have been discussing this offline quite abit lately, will most likely experiment with it this spring.

yes indeed..
and the more i think about it, the more it makes sense.

primo/tren/proviron/halos..

 

[Makavelli]

yes indeed..
and the more i think about it, the more it makes sense.

primo/tren/proviron/halos..

Nice....

 

[Indy]

I'd really be interested to see the results of this. I'm sure you'd be hard as fuck if you dieted with it. I've seen guys use these in addition to others in a pre-contest cycle, but not alone.

that's what I was thinking, after that cycle Satch's girlfriends will most likely all leave him for me

 

[falcyou]

lots of good input here......

I think what will do is divide it into 2 cycles or maybe phases....

1-10 weeks of Tren 200mg/Test Cypo 300mg
3 weeks off
12 weeks of Primo/EQ/week 6-12 winny
I would start clen and cytomel on the 6th week as well.

how does that sound? a bit too much or would i need a bigger gap for the layoff?
money isn't so much of a concern.

satch does look like a fucking beast in that pic, so his advice may be worth taking.

 

[Indy]

lots of good input here......

I think what will do is divide it into 2 cycles or maybe phases....

1-10 weeks of Tren 200mg/Test Cypo 300mg
3 weeks off
12 weeks of Primo/EQ/week 6-12 winny
I would start clen and cytomel on the 6th week as well.

how does that sound? a bit too much or would i need a bigger gap for the layoff?
money isn't so much of a concern.

satch does look like a fucking beast in that pic, so his advice may be worth taking.

I like it and have been looking into "phasing" it like that myself. You will get alot of negative feedback here towards that, and rightfully so. The bro's here try to look out for each other's best interest, so with that said time off and proper pct is always the way to go. But I am inclined to try that myself as I am in my last week of tren/prop cycle. The cycle before was 10 weeks of primo/var and I LOVED how it made me so hard. Oh yea, I was taking abit of proviron with it also......Good Luck !

 

[JeSt3r]

indy u understood what i was saying about primo right sir?

 

[Indy]

indy u understood what i was saying about primo right sir?

From the sides standpoint, yea I do, that's why I asked..... Some people dont use Primo simply cause it's safer, they use it because they like what it does. Honestly, I shelled out the big bucks cause I like how it sounded safer, less sides, etc... After running it I realize the gains are not explosive so I still like to spice it up abit. But once again agreed on that point and I will most likely run only var/proviron with my next Primo cycle to be a little easier on the body for awhile.

 

[Ulter]

Your second idea of two cycles is much better. You'd have to cycle for a year to gain 26 pounds on tren/primo. And even then it would be a feat.
I think you need to redesign the whole thing. To reach your goal, assuming you eat right, I would do this.

1-10 NPP 600mg
1-10 test 500mg
4 weeks off with HCG then clomid
1-10 test 400mg
1-08 tren 75mg/day

Add orals to taste.