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College is a SCAM!

havoc

havoc

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I have been wanting to speak upon this as of late, and MP5's thread ingnited that "spark" to express my thoughts. College is not what it is made out to be, don't get me wrong, its great for pussy, and if your Cornholio, dick, its good for partying, meeting others, developing bong and beer etiquette and learning how to make collect calls, other than that, it really does not have much credibility. Its basically 4-5 years of not only waisting money on courses, food, bills, years of loans, etc, but you are also waisting 4-5 years of time, time that could be spent saving money by working the same type of job you are going to get when you graduate. Sure there are folks who prove the above to be wrong, but not too many.
The only thing I recall about college were the majority of my religion courses, they were the only thing I cared about. Not one paper I wrote, not one test I took, not one thing I did in college has aided me in this world today, college is a money making SCAM, and a very good one at that. Our minds are filled with "you need to go to college to make good money", what a HUGE LIE, honestly, if I did not go to college I would be a close to retiring mother trucker. Luckily I did not have to pay for college, but still my time was waisted. Graduate school is even worse, I started my Masters, learned very quickly that these fools cant teach me what I want to know, only I can. You learn from trial and error, from experience, not from sitting in a classroom staring into the great blue yonder.
College today is getting worse, they want to get you in and out, like cattle to slaughter, currently they are implementing a system where you can only pay for a semester at a time, trying to get rid of those folks that only have 2 classes to go, they want your money for a quick 4 years and then its time for you to get the fuck out.
College is a SCAM. peace
 
I have to agree with HS. As my degrees relate to a career in health care, I sincerely doubt they'd let me do so without the proper credentials.
 
Statistics say that those with a college degree earn considerably more than those that do not have a degree.

Additionally, over 60% of CEO's have advanced degrees.

What's up with that?
 
...but I have friends who have $80k undergrad educations who work in jobs that only require a high school diploma. One of those friends has degrees in pysch and business and works at a Hallmark. :rolleyes: I think that could also be because she lives in the middle of nowhere.

I just got promoted in my company's admin accounting deptartment. I'd never even taken an accounting class (I still wouldn't take one as it's not my cup of tea). I wonder who an employer would choose-- someone with a couple of years of experience or someone with no experience and an accting degree??
 
While I see havoc's point. The reason for college is not so much what you learn but to seperate you a bit from the thousands of people that want jobs. The employer can see that you can finish something therefore being more dependable than some dude off the street.
 
experience nearly always wins out.

a degree and experience will beat that out though.

all in all - it really depends on who you know and what you want to do.
that is largely what school is for - figuring out what you want to do, and building up a collection of people that you know so you can later network on them.
that alone is probably the number one reason to go to a better school.
 
curling said:
While I see havoc's point. The reason for college is not so much what you learn but to seperate you a bit from the thousands of people that want jobs. The employer can see that you can finish something therefore being more dependable than some dude off the street.
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I went to school with people that were so rich that they would never need to work a day in their lives.

there are other reasons to go to college outside of getting a job.

but, to beat a dead horse, it matters what you see in your future, and where you go.
 
I agree Matt, Raina and HS, hence my "Sure there are folks who prove the above to be wrong, but not too many" comment in the initial post. Currently I am making some solid money personal training, around 60,000 a year tax free, on top of this I have a salary job that I had to have a degree to get and own my own business(the money or so called accompishments are not the point and are beyond irrelevant), what is the point is this: You give me those 5 years back and I guarantee I have an extra 400,000 in my bank right now, sounds alot better than what I have at the moment. peace
 
gymrat123 said:
I have one year left in my degree.


Thanks for making me feel like i've wasted my time.
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I do love you.


Point is this: If I could have this mysterious "400,000 grand" instead of a degree, then I could work a 20 hour a week, minimum wage job and still save some cash because I would own everything that I do not as of right now.
 
I personally felt that 90% of my classes in college were worthless. but the $32K a year gave me an environment where I could learn whatever I wanted to, and I had some fo the best resources to do that on hand.

were I to try to learn all of that on my own, it would have been much harder.

better yet, now that I have had access to those resources and know how to use them (might even say exploit them), I can learn even more out of school and learn it faster - would I have been able to do that otherwise? hard to say.

and havoc, you keep saying how the money is irrelevant, yet you also keep referring to the time wasted in terms of money.
I see life in terms of money, but that is just how I think. you are saying that you don't see things that way, yet are reasoning things out that way? why? (just curious - I would assume it is to relate to others that see things that way)

there are plenty of people that are content to drift through life waiting for shit to happen - and those are the people that one might argue aren't really in need of going to school. but you could also argue that going through the process might move something inside of them and make them truly interested in something and give them drive and direction. not all - but some.

the longer I am on this board, the less faith I have in humanity though, so on the whole, I would say that for most people, college is a waste.
not that the college is failing - just that the people are there for the wrong reasons.
 
havoc said:

I do love you.


Point is this: If I could have this mysterious "400,000 grand" instead of a degree, then I could work a 20 hour a week, minimum wage job and still save some cash because I would own everything that I do not as of right now.
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I see your point. But as others have pointed out, some degrees such as tech and medical are essential.

Eventually I want to teach. So for this reason I can justify my degree.
 
For the most part I dont feel college is a scam…I graduated with a finance degree and you cant just walk into a firm with no degree and get a job…so its good for that

BUT..

ALL majors SHOULD be able to be completed in 2 years (4 semesters) but they make you waste 2 yrs taking stupid shit like gym and history and science classes and stupid ass shit..for what? Teach me about finance not how to fucking mate fruit flys


Biggest money making scam going on today are colleges.
 
A lot of the individual classes are a waste of time, depending on what you end up doing, but the end result is valuable.

Most companies, if you want to be promoted beyond a certain level, will require a degree. If you're not interested in climbing the corporate ladder, it's not as important, IMO.
 
NYM is right about the time frame.

What everyone isn't told is this... College is just a way to learn a new vocabulary for the field in which you wish to work. That's it. Bottom line. It does not by any means give you a gaurantee that you will be a success in life.
 
HappyScrappy said:

and havoc, you keep saying how the money is irrelevant, yet you also keep referring to the time wasted in terms of money.
I see life in terms of money, but that is just how I think. you are saying that you don't see things that way, yet are reasoning things out that way? why? (just curious - I would assume it is to relate to others that see things that way)
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Money in my mind is irrelevant in my faith and mental thoughts, but since the world revolves around it , it can't be too irrelevant to surviving in a certain aspects, I have always wanted this by age 30: a car that is paid for(got that), all credit cards paid off(got that), a house that is paid for(don't have that), always wanted to get to the point in life where I could survive on $500 dollars a month, where my only bills are bills associated with living, I don't believe in stress or struggle in any fashion, we are not here on this earth to work 8 hour days or more, to stress about meaningless shit like money, our jobs, etc, but unless you want to move to a place that has its own ecosystem and live off the land(Oahu comes to mind), not have a job, being a bum, not having a gym membership(a gym is important to me), then you are going to have to work, you are going to have to be caught up in the everyday hustle and bustle of corporate america or any job for that matter. I would be content with a car that is paid for, a house(that will last, can be small as fuck, I dont care) that is paid for, everything paid for except for normal bills associated with living and working 20 hours a week at Walmart, I keep things pretty simple, have what I need, stay away from my wants or irrelevant items.
I'm ranting a bit, did I answer anything, sorry. peace
 
WODIN said:
NYM is right about the time frame.

What everyone isn't told is this... College is just a way to learn a new vocabulary for the field in which you wish to work. That's it. Bottom line. It does not by any means give you a gaurantee that you will be a success in life.
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I didn’t get to do any relevant study/course work until my 3rd year...its such bullshit the 1st 2 yrs of college..and the books...fuckin $85 for textbooks that they give you $10 for when u sell it back to them then they resell it for $65 next semester...HUGE ASS SCAM. I did though take a few business law classes that were NOT required…it was such a cool fucking class I wanted to take more.
 
I have to disagree with Havoc, college is a great life molding experience. Now it is true that real life experience is much more valuable, it is directly related to employed / career fields.

There is more to college than just training for a career, unless you are in med or law school. With degrees like Finance, Accounting, Arts, Business, IT, etc.. you take many classes that you do not directly need in your field. Much like what NYMuscle said. However, it is these classes that help round out your education and personality. How can you be comfortable knowing what you like and don't like unless you have been exposed to a vast amount of subjects and interests? It is the ancillary courses and classes that make you interesting at cocktail parties. If you go in and get a degree in two years in just the core subjects - that is great if you are in your 30's, but for most college people in their early 20's, they need to have more exposure to other things. Remember the saying "Minds are like Jello? You want to put all the good stuff in before it sets." This is why I tell anyone that I know to take an International correspondent course if they can. Travel and learn other customs. the world is a big place and there is so much out there that many people do not know about. No matter what you read on the news, it pales in terms of first hand experience. College is a major stepping stone for likes/dislikes/traits/habits that follow you through life.

Now, just to support Havoc's theory of colleges being scams. I fully agree in the cases of places like AIU (American Continental Univ.) and Art Institute (of ATL, FTL, NYC, etc..) Those places, you literally buy your degree. At AIU alone, you can "purchase" a BA degree in 18 months. I have seen many people coming through the HR department when I worked at Motorola with these kind of degrees. We (supervisors and CEO's) all called them McDegrees. The people that possessed these degrees were often the ones that needed the most basic training in their fields. I saw IT majors coming through who would be absolutely lost when asked if they knew C/C++ or VB. Not that I know any of that, but a computer science major should.
 
who says college is for everyone? There are a lot of people who really have no place or desire in going to college, and then theres people like me who are going to need a degree to even be considered for a job in the field im going into. big difference.
 
havoc said:
Sure there are folks who prove the above to be wrong, but not too many.
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I think what you mean is:

"Sure there are folks who prove the above RIGHT, but not too many."

The number of people making above $75,000 a year with college degrees far outnumbers the number of people making $75,000 without college degrees.

Face it, 90% of America's companies won't even let you in the door without a degree, and if they do you'll be an hourly employee. What you're assuming is that everyone is entrepreneurial in nature. If that were the case, then a college degree would be MUCH less important. But it isn't the case. The vast majority of people ARE NOT entrepreneurs, nor do they want to be. So, if you're not extroverted, outgoing, highly ambitious, assertive, and confident, your best bet is to get a degree, get a job, and move up in the ranks as fast as you can.
 
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bigguns7 said:


I think what you mean is:

"Sure there are folks who prove the above RIGHT, but not too many."

The number of people making above $75,000 a year with college degrees far outnumbers the number of people making $75,000 without college degrees.

Face it, 90% of America's companies won't even let you in the door without a degree, and if they do you'll be an hourly employee. What you're assuming is that everyone is entrepreneurial in nature. If that were the case, then a college degree would be MUCH less important. But it isn't the case. The vast majority of people ARE NOT entrepreneurs, nor do they want to be. So, if you're not extroverted, outgoing, highly ambitious, assertive, and confident, your best bet is to get a degree, get a job, and move up in the ranks as fast as you can.
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No, I meant my first statement.
 
Sure, if you take history, or art or something.

But here in the oil 'bidness' I can tell you first hand, that without a degree you hit a glass ceiling pretty damn fast. Just having a degree means that your starting salary is way above a non-grad. And, in fact, most jobs aren't even available to non-degree holders engineering, geology, geophysics...all that shit. And that carries over to other areas such as marketing, where you would not get hired without a degree (unless you had years and years of experience)
 
curling said:
While I see havoc's point. The reason for college is not so much what you learn but to seperate you a bit from the thousands of people that want jobs. The employer can see that you can finish something therefore being more dependable than some dude off the street.
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a.k.a "signal theory" in economics.
 
What college does not teach you (no school really can) is the value of your time, which is life's most important lesson. By sequencing everything into semesters, it sets unrelaistic expectations...

You should be able to finish a class at whatever time frame you like. There were classes I could have knocked out in a week - why make me wait 15? Universities would improve dramatically with less time in the classroom. I'll remember that when I found one. Anyway....

Life is the art of using your time. Whether you want to use it to get to happy hour every day, or use your free time to produce something marketable, is entirely up to you.

College creates consumers, when producers in society are truly successful. College causes most to aspire to medicority.
 
MattTheSkywalker said:


You should be able to finish a class at whatever time frame you like. There were classes I could have knocked out in a week - why make me wait 15?
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Now that is very true. Then again, some people go all semester learning the "facts" of a subject but have no clue how to grasp it in reality. You can "learn the answers" to just about anything out there, it is knowing where and how to apply those answers that led to success.
 
i entirely agree with you matt, college should be set at YOUR pace not how they set it up, i remeber there were classes i had to drone thru when i had gone ahead and finished it within 3 weeks.
 
Don't forget the classes you went to maybe once every month, took the midterm and the final, and got an A, ridiculous.
 
haha havoc i had the perfect class for that

interpersonal communication, the teacher was real layed back and didn't take attendence so i had him give me a list of all the assignments, exam dates and then spent a full weekend finishing all the work and had some more free time....even if all my papers were on my lack of social ability.
 
havoc said:
Don't forget the classes you went to maybe once every month, took the midterm and the final, and got an A, ridiculous.
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lol!
hmm, depends what school you went to.

sounding like a broken record yet?
 
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bigguns7 said:


Any comment on the rest of what I said?
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Like you said in a way, depends on the individual, people usually surround themselves with friends who share the same outlook, share the same ideas, same thoughts, saying that, I am around folks who agree with my statements about college, I am around folks who make over 100,000 a year who have not set foot in a classroom, some of there income is not legal, some is, a degree guarantees nothing. peace
 
havoc said:
I have been wanting to speak upon this as of late, and MP5's thread ingnited that "spark" to express my thoughts. College is not what it is made out to be, don't get me wrong, its great for pussy, and if your Cornholio, dick, its good for partying, meeting others, developing bong and beer etiquette and learning how to make collect calls, other than that, it really does not have much credibility. Its basically 4-5 years of not only waisting money on courses, food, bills, years of loans, etc, but you are also waisting 4-5 years of time, time that could be spent saving money by working the same type of job you are going to get when you graduate. Sure there are folks who prove the above to be wrong, but not too many.
The only thing I recall about college were the majority of my religion courses, they were the only thing I cared about. Not one paper I wrote, not one test I took, not one thing I did in college has aided me in this world today, college is a money making SCAM, and a very good one at that. Our minds are filled with "you need to go to college to make good money", what a HUGE LIE, honestly, if I did not go to college I would be a close to retiring mother trucker. Luckily I did not have to pay for college, but still my time was waisted. Graduate school is even worse, I started my Masters, learned very quickly that these fools cant teach me what I want to know, only I can. You learn from trial and error, from experience, not from sitting in a classroom staring into the great blue yonder.
College today is getting worse, they want to get you in and out, like cattle to slaughter, currently they are implementing a system where you can only pay for a semester at a time, trying to get rid of those folks that only have 2 classes to go, they want your money for a quick 4 years and then its time for you to get the fuck out.
College is a SCAM. peace
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Sounds like you majored in a useless field, like English, philosophy or some cultural studies...

I had fun, learned a lot and I apply a little something from college everyday.

Computer Science, Information theory.
Got my BSCS 10 years ago and still use a bit of it every day.

Sucks to be you though, image all the pot you coulda bought had you decided to stay at home and not learn a thing.
 
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Code said:


Sounds like you majored in a useless field, like English, philosophy or some cultural studies...

I had fun, learned a lot and I apply a little something from college everyday.

Computer Science, Information theory.
Got my BSCS 10 years ago and still use a bit of it every day.

Sucks to be you though, image all the pot you coulda bought had you decided to stay at home and not learn a thing.
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Ahh, simplicity at its best.
 
havoc said:
I have been wanting to speak upon this as of late, and MP5's thread ingnited that "spark" to express my thoughts. College is not what it is made out to be, don't get me wrong, its great for pussy, and if your Cornholio, dick, its good for partying, meeting others, developing bong and beer etiquette and learning how to make collect calls, other than that, it really does not have much credibility. Its basically 4-5 years of not only waisting money on courses, food, bills, years of loans, etc, but you are also waisting 4-5 years of time, time that could be spent saving money by working the same type of job you are going to get when you graduate. Sure there are folks who prove the above to be wrong, but not too many.
The only thing I recall about college were the majority of my religion courses, they were the only thing I cared about. Not one paper I wrote, not one test I took, not one thing I did in college has aided me in this world today, college is a money making SCAM, and a very good one at that. Our minds are filled with "you need to go to college to make good money", what a HUGE LIE, honestly, if I did not go to college I would be a close to retiring mother trucker. Luckily I did not have to pay for college, but still my time was waisted. Graduate school is even worse, I started my Masters, learned very quickly that these fools cant teach me what I want to know, only I can. You learn from trial and error, from experience, not from sitting in a classroom staring into the great blue yonder.
College today is getting worse, they want to get you in and out, like cattle to slaughter, currently they are implementing a system where you can only pay for a semester at a time, trying to get rid of those folks that only have 2 classes to go, they want your money for a quick 4 years and then its time for you to get the fuck out.
College is a SCAM. peace
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I'd like to see someone operate a nuclear reactor plant
without an advanced degree..... :)

LOL

You're talking about NON-science based degrees Havoc.

Fonz
 
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Fonz said:


I'd like to see someone operate a nuclear reactor plant
without an advanced degree..... :)

LOL

You're talking about NON-science based degrees Havoc.

Fonz
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Yeah he is, but he will still be offended by people who are actually using their degrees.
 
havoc said:


Money in my mind is irrelevant in my faith and mental thoughts, but since the world revolves around it , it can't be too irrelevant to surviving in a certain aspects, I have always wanted this by age 30: a car that is paid for(got that), all credit cards paid off(got that), a house that is paid for(don't have that), always wanted to get to the point in life where I could survive on $500 dollars a month, where my only bills are bills associated with living, I don't believe in stress or struggle in any fashion, we are not here on this earth to work 8 hour days or more, to stress about meaningless shit like money, our jobs, etc, but unless you want to move to a place that has its own ecosystem and live off the land(Oahu comes to mind), not have a job, being a bum, not having a gym membership(a gym is important to me), then you are going to have to work, you are going to have to be caught up in the everyday hustle and bustle of corporate america or any job for that matter. I would be content with a car that is paid for, a house(that will last, can be small as fuck, I dont care) that is paid for, everything paid for except for normal bills associated with living and working 20 hours a week at Walmart, I keep things pretty simple, have what I need, stay away from my wants or irrelevant items.
I'm ranting a bit, did I answer anything, sorry. peace
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Good post and I agree...most Americans work 50+ hours a week, suffer from all sorts of stress and bad diet related problems...etc etc etc....
 
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Code said:


Yeah he is, but he will still be offended by people who are actually using their degrees.
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True.

Fonz
 
college does 2 things

shows an employer that you can finish something

allows you to mature and experince life, a transistion phase from teenage bullshit to real world crisis...
 
havoc i agree with you in some of your ideas on this issue, but there a few reasons i disagree and those include:

most people do not know what they want to do when the graduate high school college can help those people

I want to be a doctor- would you want a doctor working on you who did not go to college???

and also i read an article giving the average salary comming out of warden business school in 2001, $124,000 per year, can't beat that.

peace
 
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havoc said:

I am around folks who agree with my statements about college, I am around folks who make over 100,000 a year who have not set foot in a classroom, some of there income is not legal, some is, a degree guarantees nothing. peace
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And you think these folks represent America accurately? You made a very generalized statement about ALL people based upon observations of a FEW people. The only thing you've said that I can agree with is that a degree guarantees you nothing. To say that a college education is useless and is a scam is stretching it.

Jim Abbott succeeded in professional baseball with one arm. If I stated opinions like you, I would say, "You only need one arm to be a professional pitcher." In fact, this is not true, but I have used a small population by which to prove my point about a much larger population. So if I hung out with Jim Abbott, by your standards my statement would be true.
 
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HappyScrappy said:
but apparently does nothing for one's writing skills
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Yet another post that only continues to prove your ignorance and highlight your jealous nature.

sad
 
JustinM said:

and also i read an article giving the average salary comming out of warden business school in 2001, $124,000 per year, can't beat that.
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Just a guess, but I figure you mean Wharton,as in teh Univ opf Pennsylvania.

I'd say it's pretty safe you wouldn't get in anyway.
 
HappyScrappy said:


:lmao:

right-o

you are a regular TS Elliot
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actually I am a damn good writter, when I show it....which is rarely on this board.
 
HighIntensity said:


actually I am a damn good writter, when I show it....which is rarely on this board.
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I'm sure you are.
and I'd suggest "never" instead of "rarely" on here, but hey, that's just me.

your extra super duper ego is a blast to watch. if you are half this fun in real life, I'd say you need your own reality tv so that people can tune in very much like Anna Nicole.
 
to havoc

Yet again proving your rightful position as a master of vagueries.

I told you long ago to read the quote at the bottom of my posts. You blew it off. You would do well to actually read it this time, carefully.
 
This thread reminds me of a movie. Havoc and HappyScrappy reminds me of two characters from a movie.

"You're not your job. You're not how much money you have in the bank. You're not the car you drive. You're not the contents of your wallet. You're not your fucking khakis. You're the all-singing, all-dancing crap of the world."

Feel any better?
 
KHMER ROGUE said:

"You're not your job. You're not how much money you have in the bank. You're not the car you drive. You're not the contents of your wallet. You're not your fucking khakis. You're the all-singing, all-dancing crap of the world."
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The mantra of the poor.
 
MattTheSkywalker said:
Statistics say that those with a college degree earn considerably more than those that do not have a degree.

Additionally, over 60% of CEO's have advanced degrees.

What's up with that?
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True.

But the 3 years I spent at law school were useless since my feeling is that I learned a lot more at Bar School.
 
HappyScrappy said:


I'm sure you are.
and I'd suggest "never" instead of "rarely" on here, but hey, that's just me.

your extra super duper ego is a blast to watch. if you are half this fun in real life, I'd say you need your own reality tv so that people can tune in very much like Anna Nicole.
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have I lived an intresting life? yes

dated beautiful women? yes

a flair for romance? yes

But I assure you in real life I am down to earth, cordial, and respectful of those around me, hardly stressing my ego upon others.

The chat board is my entertainment, I explained this a while back that due to pre concieved notions about my apperence that I experince daily, I wanted to see if this would corralte on the net as well.

thus the HI handle, all the stories are truth but the attitude is more scewed.

make sense?
 
HighIntensity said:


have I lived an intresting life? yes

dated beautiful women? yes

a flair for romance? yes

But I assure you in real life I am down to earth, cordial, and respectful of those around me, hardly stressing my ego upon others.

The chat board is my entertainment, I explained this a while back that due to pre concieved notions about my apperence that I experince daily, I wanted to see if this would corralte on the net as well.

thus the HI handle, all the stories are truth but the attitude is more scewed.

make sense?
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TS Elliot had an editor to correct all his typos. I suggest you do likewise.
 
Code said:


TS Elliot had an editor to correct all his typos. I suggest you do likewise.
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what is so funny about haveing learning disabilites?
 
HighIntensity said:


actually I am a damn good writter, when I show it....which is rarely on this board.
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I have written professionally a bunch of times, including a book, and an entire introspection curriculum for groups ranging from high school kids to veterans to unemployed 20-somethings.

Writing ability is not something that is turned on and off. You either "do", or "don't" possess it.

You don't. No offense.

PS I am not talking about spelling.
 
MattTheSkywalker said:


I have written professionally a bunch of times, including a book, and an entire introspection curriculum for groups ranging from high school kids to veterans to unemployed 20-somethings.

Writing ability is not something that is turned on and off. You either "do", or "don't" possess it.

You don't. No offense.

PS I am not talking about spelling.
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would you like to see some of my real work Matt-
 
MattTheSkywalker said:


I have written professionally a bunch of times, including a book, and an entire introspection curriculum for groups ranging from high school kids to veterans to unemployed 20-somethings.

Writing ability is not something that is turned on and off. You either "do", or "don't" possess it.

You don't. No offense.

PS I am not talking about spelling.
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Matt, that was pretty nasty....

Fonz
 
HappyScrappy said:


:lmao:

right-o

you are a regular TS Elliot
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my favorite poet...

spirit of the fountain... spirit of the sea... suffer us not to be seperated... and let my cry come unto thee....
 
MattTheSkywalker said:


I have written professionally a bunch of times, including a book, and an entire introspection curriculum for groups ranging from high school kids to veterans to unemployed 20-somethings.

Writing ability is not something that is turned on and off. You either "do", or "don't" possess it.

You don't. No offense.

PS I am not talking about spelling.
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I disagree... mildly...

writing ability isn't turned on or off, true, but usually the quality of output is determined by the time spent multiplied by the ability level...

any mildly intelligent person can write quite well if they are willing to spend enough time on it. That same person could never write for a living, because it would take them 20 years to produce a newspaper column that tony kornheiser could write in an hour...
 
MattTheSkywalker said:


I have written professionally a bunch of times, including a book, and an entire introspection curriculum for groups ranging from high school kids to veterans to unemployed 20-somethings.
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Are you getting more arrogant (is that possible?), more blunt(is that possible?), or just meaner?

being a prick takes just about as much time as being affable. Why not give niceness a try????
 
exactly puc typing on this board if like useing Ebonics, it's mostly slang scribble
 
MattTheSkywalker said:
Statistics say that those with a college degree earn considerably more than those that do not have a degree.

Additionally, over 60% of CEO's have advanced degrees.

What's up with that?
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Don't confuse cause & effect with coincidence.

People with college degrees earn considerably more than those without because people with college degrees tend to be more intelligent than those without. This intelligence is a result of themselves and their upbringing, and their success is in spite of their "higher" education.

I'd say that maybe 6-10 of the credit hours I've taken at college have actually done me some good in my work. That's quite sad considering I have taken over 100 already.

-Warik
 
MattTheSkywalker said:


I have written professionally a bunch of times, including a book, and an entire introspection curriculum for groups ranging from high school kids to veterans to unemployed 20-somethings.

Writing ability is not something that is turned on and off. You either "do", or "don't" possess it.

You don't. No offense.

PS I am not talking about spelling.
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some people write to inform you
some people write to educate
only a selected few can write to inspire you

I know i am reading a great writer's work when after completing his thoughts i get chills~ and i think about it all the time and make references to it (paraphrased)

About college; some people need that papers, others the social latter of it.

To me college is what YOU make of it; dont expect a job just becasue you went there. College is a place where you mature as a person and student, i think everyone should experiece post secondary education; not for the parties or sex, but for developing our minds spiritually .
 
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I2ancid said:
Im 16 and make $350,000 a year in the porn business; with a ged and not one step into a college or 'technical institute'. people who go to these schools are morons searching endlessly for an easy way out of self learning and hardcore trial and error. No school will teach you how to truely be self sufficient because just by going your showing your an idiot with no clue.

On other matters, those who go to regular colleges are mainly people who wont make anything out of themselves and are just there for the ride and bragging rights. If you goto college under a respectable trade then college can benefit you. ie: law, medical, architecture, etc etc. People mainly go to college not knowing what the fuck they want to do with their lives. That is the mistake. its all some sort of party to them.

Mainly people who go to it technical institutes are the true morons and theyre basically asking the place to take their money. Real life jobs will laugh theyre asses off at any person who has a resume with one of those institutes on it because just them attending shows they cant learn themselves and need someone else to 'push' them. I knew a guy who graduated from 4 years networking in one of those colleges and when he came out he didnt even know what a switch was...
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Luckily when grade school starts up again we'll see a lot less of this utter nonsense.
 
I2ancid said:
Im 16 and make $350,000 a year in the porn business; with a ged and not one step into a college or 'technical institute'. people who go to these schools are morons searching endlessly for an easy way out of self learning and hardcore trial and error. No school will teach you how to truely be self sufficient because just by going your showing your an idiot with no clue.

On other matters, those who go to regular colleges are mainly people who wont make anything out of themselves and are just there for the ride and bragging rights. If you goto college under a respectable trade then college can benefit you. ie: law, medical, architecture, etc etc. People mainly go to college not knowing what the fuck they want to do with their lives. That is the mistake. its all some sort of party to them.

Mainly people who go to it technical institutes are the true morons and theyre basically asking the place to take their money. Real life jobs will laugh theyre asses off at any person who has a resume with one of those institutes on it because just them attending shows they cant learn themselves and need someone else to 'push' them. I knew a guy who graduated from 4 years networking in one of those colleges and when he came out he didnt even know what a switch was...
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Shut your pie trap idiot.
 
It's pretty sad you foreigners are so ignorant. You know nothing of the american education system yet you flame me like a faggot. foreigners need to suck my dick
 
MattTheSkywalker said:
Statistics say that those with a college degree earn considerably more than those that do not have a degree.

Additionally, over 60% of CEO's have advanced degrees.

What's up with that?
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naawwwww.... u gotta be shitting me!
 
I2ancid said:
It's pretty sad you foreigners are so ignorant. You know nothing of the american education system yet you flame me like a faggot. foreigners need to suck my dick
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So you know a little about switches??

Tell me a little about how the OS on a switch operates? Which protocols get preference?
 
MattTheSkywalker said:
I have written professionally a bunch of times, including a book, and an entire introspection curriculum for groups ranging from high school kids to veterans to unemployed 20-somethings.

Writing ability is not something that is turned on and off. You either "do", or "don't" possess it.

You don't. No offense.

PS I am not talking about spelling.
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You must have an excellent editor.

The first sentence in the above paragraph is a grammatical nightmare - all of the three clauses in that sentence might sound natural when spoken, but they should be thoroughly reworked for written usage. You should stick a noun in the first clause, then proceed from there.

In standard American English commas and periods go inside quotation marks, like this example: "Matty is a party pooper." In your case it's not even necessary. There's no need for a comma between 'do' and 'or' in your sentence above. Two auxiliary verbs that refer to the same main verb can be joined with a conjunction (such as 'or'), while a comma would be completely superfluous and ungrammatical in such a case.

No offense. This is just a chatboard.
 
I2ancid said:
Im 16 and make $350,000 a year in the porn business; with a ged and not one step into a college or 'technical institute'. people who go to these schools are morons searching endlessly for an easy way out of self learning and hardcore trial and error. No school will teach you how to truely be self sufficient because just by going your showing your an idiot with no clue.

On other matters, those who go to regular colleges are mainly people who wont make anything out of themselves and are just there for the ride and bragging rights. If you goto college under a respectable trade then college can benefit you. ie: law, medical, architecture, etc etc. People mainly go to college not knowing what the fuck they want to do with their lives. That is the mistake. its all some sort of party to them.

Mainly people who go to it technical institutes are the true morons and theyre basically asking the place to take their money. Real life jobs will laugh theyre asses off at any person who has a resume with one of those institutes on it because just them attending shows they cant learn themselves and need someone else to 'push' them. I knew a guy who graduated from 4 years networking in one of those colleges and when he came out he didnt even know what a switch was...
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Right on, bro.

I'm a 4-year-old immigrant from Honduras, and last year I raked in close to $600,000. I don't even know how to speak English.
 
Stumpy said:


Right on, bro.

I'm a 4-year-old immigrant from Honduras, and last year I raked in close to $600,000. I don't even know how to speak English.
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LOL!
The funniest thing I've read in a long time!!!!!
 
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So you know a little about switches??

Tell me a little about how the OS on a switch operates? Which protocols get preference?
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Depends on what OS your on, on basic win98 lans; client for microsoft networks is used most commonly theres also, ipx, ppp... and over wans, winsock. switches are what powers the internet and business networks. They are the main brain for communications between each computer. wanna see my network? http://66.232.61.14/~adult900/comps.jpg oh and heres one months pay http://66.232.61.14/~adult900/blah.gif
 
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Stumpy said:


You must have an excellent editor.

The first sentence in the above paragraph is a grammatical nightmare - all of the three clauses in that sentence might sound natural when spoken, but they should be thoroughly reworked for written usage. You should stick a noun in the first clause, then proceed from there.

In standard American English commas and periods go inside quotation marks, like this example: "Matty is a party pooper." In your case it's not even necessary. There's no need for a comma between 'do' and 'or' in your sentence above. Two auxiliary verbs that refer to the same main verb can be joined with a conjunction (such as 'or'), while a comma would be completely superfluous and ungrammatical in such a case.

No offense. This is just a chatboard.
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Stump.........LOL

That was priceless..... :)

Fonz
 
What OS is behind 66.232.61.14.

Did you just say POINTS to refer to an IP address???

And you need to relax son, I'm completely neutral. If I prove you to be tru or false, everyone will know.
 
the domain refers to the ip and sub directory on the remote host. Im not sure what os the server is hosting me on but most likely freeBSD. I change servers every now and then due to the nature of my company, intrusive advertising better known as spam
 
i quit uni/college this year cos it was shit to join the air force.
but they are overated. when i was 16 i started an internet business and when i turned 17 i was making on average $1000 a week from about 4-5 hours work a week. not bad.

if you go to i2ancids porn page http://adult900.com/ at the bottom where u go for the free psowrd it goes to http://clickcash.webpower.com/~wsap...n.htm&ref=http://mysite.ifriends.net/cgi-win/$ifupload.exe

note the i2ancid ident in there? doubt he is lying. maybe just about the profits :/

and i2ancid let me work for you
 
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Sup, im 16 I DO NOT workout at all yet people tell me I have some big ass muscles is this due to my genes and if I really did workout do you guys think I have the workings of a true bodybuilder? No I am NOT some stupid newbie (the kind who goes into gnc and buys 48 hour miracle diets) I am actually quite educated on fitness and body building yet never applied myself due to my age.. anyways let me know heres my pic

http://www.adult900.com/john3.jpg
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this is kinda off topic...

care to tell us why you have you pic on the ADULT900 server when you are only 16?? Do you know the girls on the site?

good luck bulking!!!




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this is kinda off topic...

care to tell us why you have you pic on the ADULT900 server when you are only 16?? Do you know the girls on the site?

good luck bulking!!!
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Its my friends server, not mine






Here's the Thread.

http://boards.elitefitness.com/forum/showthread.php?threadid=161997


P.S. Your double bicep picture sucked.
 
I2ancid said:
the domain refers to the ip and sub directory on the remote host. Im not sure what os the server is hosting me on but most likely freeBSD. I change servers every now and then due to the nature of my company, intrusive advertising better known as spam
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So why do you have all those machine if you're not hosting them??
 
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