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Aplopez8

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So if u take clomid for Hpta recovery once u stop taking the clomid won't ur lh and fsh levels drop back down cuz it was the clomid
Making them go up .. Or why do the levels stay up
After use?
 
test levels and estrogen levels sort of strike a balance (whatever that is in your specific case via a negative feedback loop).

Clomid works to raise LH (indirectly FSH). It does so by blocking estrogen in the brain (pituitary). The pituitary senses less estrogen, and makes more LH. More LH means Leydig cells produce more testosterone.

If I remember it also has some impact on the net motile number of the swimmers --but I could be wrong/
 
Yes but after discontinue it wouldn't the body have another hormonal
Imbalance or have a decrease in lh and fsh hormones
 
test levels and estrogen levels sort of strike a balance (whatever that is in your specific case via a negative feedback loop).

Clomid works to raise LH (indirectly FSH). It does so by blocking estrogen in the brain (pituitary). The pituitary senses less estrogen, and makes more LH. More LH means Leydig cells produce more testosterone.

If I remember it also has some impact on the net motile number of the swimmers --but I could be wrong/

No you are correct. FSH sent to the testes stimulates spermatogenesis, AKA more swimmers :)
 
Yes but after discontinue it wouldn't the body have another hormonal
Imbalance or have a decrease in lh and fsh hormones

It really depends on where you started out at and where you ended. If your test levels were very low when you started clomid and then brought to near normal, there would probably be very little drop coming off.

If you went from normal or slightly below to higher than normal then you would obviously return to normal levels when coming off the clomid
 
The short answer is yes -- once you stop, levels will returned to the suppressed state. A little fact that has been ignored for about 20 years. AND, while you're on, you get the wonderful side effect of feeling like shit.
 
So how do u recover???

bro have you been following my posts since you have been a member? i have put up numerous threads with bloods.. i am one of the guys on here that cycles off so I know exactly how to recover.

part of recovering is not only what you do in PCT, but its what you do on cycle and before cycle as well.

its all linked.. dont think you can run tren and deca for 1 year then run a pct and magically recover.. it doesn't work like that.
 
I haven't even touch tren or deca .. And I was using unleashed to increase my libido but I think I built a tolerance cuz I have like my libido has dropped . The only thing I'm on right now is unleashed and accutane at 40mg a day
 
I haven't even touch tren or deca .. And I was using unleashed to increase my libido but I think I built a tolerance cuz I have like my libido has dropped . The only thing I'm on right now is unleashed and accutane at 40mg a day


Accutane can cause a loss of libido and negate the effects of UNLEASHED.
 
This is incorrect. The same rule applies. Once you're off, you're back to being suppressed.

HCG is good as a "kick start" to PCT. Then use UNLEASHED to increase natural free testosterone -- that allows you to keep your gains while you recover over time. THAT makes the most sense and the only thing that truly works.

Follow with BRIDGE.

that's a scientific research study showing that supressed HPTA were recovered using only HCG
 
I would think other than time, really the only stuff thats gonna make recovery faster, would be HCG/HMG or some Trip(GNRH).
 
Haha, not what I expected to see when I saw that you responded. But thanks Moya. I do try to give good advice here and there, Im not just an A-hole in ALL my posts lol:mix:

surprised more people didnt mention Trip. But I really havent heard much discussion on it. Seems like its fairly "new", although im sure its been around for quite some time.
 
ya, and when i seen u as the last poster in the thread i wasnt expecting to see somting i would agree with as well...

im a stubborn motherfucker i know... i think outside the box and i challenge a lot of 'conventional' wisdom... and at the same time i consider myself one to uphold old-school ritual... (and i know that probably makes little sense, but it does!)
 
ya, and when i seen u as the last poster in the thread i wasnt expecting to see somting i would agree with as well...

im a stubborn motherfucker i know... i think outside the box and i challenge a lot of 'conventional' wisdom... and at the same time i consider myself one to uphold old-school ritual... (and i know that probably makes little sense, but it does!)

lmao!!!! that gave me a good laugh.
 
But even after taking hcg will
My body keep up the production of lh and fsh hormones at the rate it was when on hcg after discontinuing the hcg . Or return more to the suppressed state .
 
But even after taking hcg will
My body keep up the production of lh and fsh hormones at the rate it was when on hcg after discontinuing the hcg . Or return more to the suppressed state .

based on the study I posted the bodies of those individuals returned to a homeostatic state.
 
...and to add, it is possible (probably not likely though), that one dose of aas (in theory) could shut someone down for life if their body responded that way... not to scare you as im sure that case is rare...
im sure some can recover from cycles fairly timely with no PCT (i know people who have) and those that could take years...
 
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