! Clomid !

[! RUSSIAN BEAR !]

alright brothers

im going to start my first cycle very soon, this how it looks


Test E 1-10 week 250mg x2
aifm in cycle

p-c-t

Nolvadex


will i need to use clomid or can i get away with-out using clomid
as i am only looking to bulk up not to get shape yet

ive bin trainng hard for 2 years now i started at 136 pounds my stats are as

age 23
5ft-7ins
200 pounds
14% b\f

any input will be great thanks

 

[party_booye]

you dont have to use nolva and clomid, nolva alone will be fine, clomid and nolva do basically the same thing anyway.

 

[! RUSSIAN BEAR !]

you dont have to use Nolvaldex - tamoxifen citrate - and clomid, Nolvaldex - tamoxifen citrate - alone will be fine, clomid and Nolvaldex - tamoxifen citrate - do basically the same thing anyway.

ok cool, thanks for that cheers

 

[holy ghost]

sounds good
clomid is nice

 

[sshadoww]

alright brothers

im going to start my first cycle very soon, this how it looks


testosterone enanthate 1-10 week 250mg x2
aifm in cycle

p-c-t

Nolvadex


will i need to use clomid or can i get away with-out using clomid
as i am only looking to bulk up not to get shape yet

ive bin trainng hard for 2 years now i started at 136 pounds my stats are as

age 23
5ft-7ins
200 pounds
14% bf

any input will be great thanks

Just 2 years training and you gained 64 pounds and kept the bf under 15%? Good job man...good luck with the cycle.

 

[Papa Lion]

you can do a nolva only pct there's a link in my profile to a page outlining pct check it out... it has clomid only, nolva only, and nolva and clomid together pct's. I personally prefer the combo!!

 

[gyle]

I don't see the link anywhere. Oh and A. Kareiln IS Bad A*S! I always looked up to him since I started wrestling at 10yrs. old.

 

[Sanel27]

Just 2 years training and you gained 64 pounds and kept the bf under 15%? Good job man...good luck with the cycle.

EXACTLY, you seem to be on the right path.....keep up the good work

 

[Wrongun]

I tend to use both Clomid and Nolva as always had best results with that combination.

I always have Nolva on hand anyway in case io realise symtoms of gyno and if not used the i run with the Clomid as PCT

something along the lines of

Clomid 100mg/day for 10 days, then 50mg/day for 10 days
Nolvadex 60mg/day for 10 days then 40mg/day for 10 days

Will be more than adequate IMHO but you need to listen to your body as everyone is different and adjust dosages to match what you are hearing

Wrongun!

 

[! RUSSIAN BEAR !]

Just 2 years training and you gained 64 pounds and kept the bf under 15%? Good job man...good luck with the cycle.

thanks bro

since ive been training ive had a good diet i eat my meals at the same time every day, train same time everyday a good routine has always help me
and now i think its time to step into the real world.

 

[xrsist]

I tend to use both Clomid and Nolvaldex - tamoxifen citrate - as always had best results with that combination.

I always have Nolva on hand anyway in case io realise symtoms of gynecomastia and if not used the i run with the Clomid as PCT - post cycle therapy -

something along the lines of

Clomid 100mg/day for 10 days, then 50mg/day for 10 days
Nolvadex 60mg/day for 10 days then 40mg/day for 10 days

Will be more than adequate IMHO but you need to listen to your body as everyone is different and adjust dosages to match what you are hearing

Wrongun!

why the high dosages of clomid and nolva bro?

 

[! RUSSIAN BEAR !]

why the high dosages of clomid and Nolvaldex - tamoxifen citrate - bro?

everyone is different bro

 

[xrsist]

everyone is different bro

umm there is no need for that high of a dose for recovery for anyone. this is why everyone complains about clomid sides, because they take far too much

 

[! RUSSIAN BEAR !]

umm there is no need for that high of a dose for recovery for anyone. this is why everyone complains about clomid sides, because they take far too much

i see what you mean
what would be a safe dose be on a 10week of test E 500mg a week
im trying to get as much info as i can so any help would be great

 

[xrsist]

i see what you mean
what would be a safe dose be on a 10week of testosterone enanthate 500mg a week
im trying to get as much info as i can so any help would be great

theres no need for clomid on cycle but for P`C`T 50mg ED for 20-30 days is enough. i dont use nolva anymore but 20mg ED is enough

 

[! RUSSIAN BEAR !]

theres no need for clomid on cycle but for P`C`T 50mg ED for 20-30 days is enough. i dont use Nolvaldex - tamoxifen citrate - anymore but 20mg ED is enough

ok cheers for the info mate
thats cool

 

[Papa Lion]

I don't see the link anywhere. Oh and A. Kareiln IS Bad A*S! I always looked up to him since I started wrestling at 10yrs. old.

it's the big heading that says PCT right above where it says "Papa Lion's Profile" on the blue line at the top!! below "The Roid Store" ad

 

[Papa Lion]

an yeah Karelin was a beast and his only int'l loss was a fuckin fluke!!! I hated that match and it pissed me off every time somebody would talk about how badass gardner was... IMO he did nothin to win that match and no high caliber match... especially for an Olympic gold should be won or lost on that kind of technicality especially when it was a new rule and Karelin was an old dog... that still pisses me off to think about it!!

 

[Wrongun]

why the high dosages of clomid and Nolvaldex - tamoxifen citrate - bro?

Because thas what works for me. Lesser just does not work

Please note my last paragraph which states he must listen to his body

If i use Clomid alone then i frontload the clomid at a higher dosage. This was widely accepted some years ago and since has been debated as not necessary. What i can tell you for my body it is and any less dosage simply does not work.

I have found the combination of both the most effective and realise no sides from the dosages

Wrongun!

 

[Wrongun]

umm there is no need for that high of a dose for recovery for anyone. this is why everyone complains about clomid sides, because they take far too much

I disagree. For me then i need the higher dosage. I also do not realise any sides apart from intial 2-3 days emotion thats it

Wrongun!

 

[sshadoww]

it's the big heading that says PCT - post cycle therapy - right above where it says "Papa Lion's Profile" on the blue line at the top!! below "The Roid Store" ad

Very informative- especially the HCG- props!