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Clomid use Poll...

What do you do post cycle?

  • Clomid only for 10-14 days

    Votes: 30 39.0%
  • Clomid w/arimidex

    Votes: 22 28.6%
  • Clomid, Arimidex, and Nolvadex

    Votes: 13 16.9%
  • Arimidex only

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Nolvadex only

    Votes: 3 3.9%
  • I don't use anything. I just shrink.

    Votes: 4 5.2%
  • Tribulus or other GNC popcorn crap

    Votes: 4 5.2%

  • Total voters
    77

Jafar

New member
How do YOU use Clomid post cycle? I'm getting ready to start mine, and for the first time I'm going to be stacking it with both arimidex and nolvadex. (Nolva first, clomid, tapering off with arimidex.)
 
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normally: day 1 300mg, day 2-12 100mg, day 13-21 50mg - done..
If you used deca, same thing only run 50mg from days 13-28 (1 week longer)

YUM
 
clomid should be used for atleast 3 weeks....and like Yum noted, longer if coming off of deca. I've used clomid for over a month before, for my recovery. You don't have to worry about using too much of it. You should be more worried about using too little.
 
The less time I'm on this shit the better. Clomid is my bad karma drug. I can't find the shit when I need it, it turns me into a bitch when I am on it, and this time I came up with the brilliant Idea of having a doctor write it for me in hopes of my insurance picking it up. Needless to say they didn't. They paid for $4,000 in oxandrin, $240 in test cyp, $630 in arimidex, and they won't pay for this piss ant fertility drug. So I end up paying $145 for the fucking clomid and the doctor visit when I could have paid 90 cents a pill for Anfarm from Greece or some other cheap shit. Fuck Clomid!
 
That aint the clomids fault bro, its just a little white pill, it didnt do nothing to nobody:rolleyes: no seriously, armidex and clomid are best.
 
clomid actually helps my mood....if you think about it, it helps your produce more nat. test when you use it, so logically it would seem that you would feel better while on it than just before you begin it.

It seems the results varry from person to person.
 
i always have a nice healthy stock of clomid. have to use to keep them nice gains recieved because of the roid use. plus my friends r always needing some so i try and hook em up.
 
When I say it turns me into a bitch, I mean it really turns me into a BITCH. I get depressed, lose confidence and aggression, listen to whiney bitch music, take long bubble baths...

Much of this could probably be attributed just to coming off, but nonetheless, I am hoping arimidex will help to alleviate some of the negatives.
 
lonewulf said:
That aint the clomids fault bro, its just a little white pill, it didnt do nothing to nobody:rolleyes: no seriously, armidex and clomid are best.
True. Actually alot of the bad rap that follows Clomid around doesn't have anything to do with Clomid. It's just the end of cycle blues.
 
Yep, and I hate posts about clomid induced acne. The clomid doesnt cause it! Its the damn fluctuating hormone levels post cycle.-WULF
 
Well, have you ever taken clomid in the absence of anything else? As in you've been off cycle for six months and get a wild hair up your ass and pop a few clomid? I have. It made me a bitch. A friend of mine was on it for fertility, to raise LH and FSH levels in order to produce more sperm. He wasn't takng anything else, just trying to knock up his old lady. He became a bitch. And he put on weight. Not good weight.
I partially agree about the acne. Any change in adrogen or estrogen level for that matter will effect your skin. But to say clomid has no influence on the acne is pushing it. Clomid is changing hormone levels itself.
Yes, I agree most moody, estrogenic wierdness post cycle is probably due to coming off the hormones, however I have a few theories about clomid's negative effects. First of all it's a weak estrogen, and believe it or not can act like estrogen in some receptors. In fact this propensity is higher than that of tamoxifen. So that in conjunction with the fact that anytime LH and FSH levels go up estrogen MUST go up, (all other things being equal, no arimidex, etc) gives us a recipe for bitch traits.
Just a theory of mine. But I'm not about to stop using the shit because the fact remains, for most of us it works.
 
Will clomid help during a cycle with high BP, water retention and tomato face?

I posted about this before...I know i should use liquidex/arimidex but i don't have that in stock..all i have is clomid and nolva

My cycle is light 300mg deca/ 300mg enth...I'm on week 5 of 10
 
I can relate to the depression on clomid:( I was a cryin little
bitch after my last cycle. Sometimes I would be cryin and not
even know why!!
 
i have been on clomid for 5 days..and havent noticed a single thing... im not a pussy now, crying and shit......

im still getting good pumps in the gym....

so go figure, i guess some people it doesnt effect as much as others

cya
uwanafight2
 
Re: One more thing...

Jafar said:
So those of you using arimidex with it, how much are you taking? 1/2 EOD?

depends on the doses of your cycle.

Light cycle (about 500mg test)----.25-.5mg ED or EOD
Heavy cycle (about 1g test)--------1mg ED or EOD

Arimidex should also be included with heavey Dbol, Anadrol, or any est inducing steroid, or bloat tending steroid (if you don't want the bloat)
 
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Well I guess everyone does react to clomid differently because clomid gave me headaches, blurry vision, for the whole time i was on it but last cycle i didn't have any problems other than a little more (Meek), which I don't mind it just helps me treat people with more compassion which the whole world needs.
 
Jafar said:



It is in fact a weak estrogen. That's the mechanism that allows it to work as an anti estrogen.

It's a dual agonist/antagonist of estrogen receptors. For example in bone estrogen receptors it stimulates the receptors- in fatty tissue or hypothalamus receptors it acts as a competitive blocker. It's not as weak as an inhibitor as most people make it out to be either.
 
About to start a Deca only cycle (1st cycle, 300mg for 10wks). Was considering using IP's armidex post cycle with clomid to help prevent acne. I know some of you aren't to fond of his shit, but I don't know if the real shit is worth the money.
 
Clomid made me feel like absolute crap. I had headaches ALL day, every day, fucked up vision, and overall I just felt like shit. I had no motivation for anything: training, school, or even social life. I have always been against nolva for post cycle therapy, because I saw a friend lose all his gains that way, but it was my only choice. I combined the nolva after 5 days of clomid with Avena Sativa, Zinc, and Maca and I feel fine now. The headaches stopped when I stopped the clomid. I also had a sudden burst of strength and set PR's less than 2 weeks out from the cycle. I don't know what the hell it was, but it sure was a great thing to beat the post cycle depression. I should also mention that I did not lose any weight at all (despite a calorie deficit) and this was my first cycle, so I my endocrine system could easily bounce back.

In the future I will combine an aromatase inhibitor with these drugs too. I still have been breaking out, but that's really because of the surges in hormones. Arimidex or femara will help even that out.
 
I searched the Poll choices and couldn't find a choice for the right answer: Clomid blows!

Clomid is an estrogen and will work as an estrogen in some people. The "theory " that it takes up estrodiol receptor sites, therefore competing and thus lowering estrogen levels is based on very sketchy evidences and at best, is a MAJOR crapshoot. If you get estrognic side effects from Clomid, STOP USING IT. It isn't helping!

Besides, even those who don't experience negitive sides, I'd say 9 out of 10 people don't even need it. But still they use it because they think they must. It'll change ...soon.
 
Nelson Montana said:
I searched the Poll choices and couldn't find a choice for the right answer: Clomid blows!

Clomid is an estrogen and will work as an estrogen in some people. The "theory " that it takes up estrodiol receptor sites, therefore competing and thus lowering estrogen levels is based on very sketchy evidences and at best, is a MAJOR crapshoot. If you get estrognic side effects from Clomid, STOP USING IT. It isn't helping!

Besides, even those who don't experience negitive sides, I'd say 9 out of 10 people don't even need it. But still they use it because they think they must. It'll change ...soon.

I'm convinced Nelson. I am always amazed by how people refuse to accept new ideas because of old ones that are ingrained in them.
Where is avena sativa and maca on that list anyway?
 
Originally posted by Nelson Montana:

If you get estrognic side effects from Clomid, STOP USING IT. It isn't helping!


So, what else do you recommend instead of clomid to use post cycle to retain hard earned muscle??
 
Nelson Montana said:
I searched the Poll choices and couldn't find a choice for the right answer: Clomid blows!

Clomid is an estrogen and will work as an estrogen in some people. The "theory " that it takes up estrodiol receptor sites, therefore competing and thus lowering estrogen levels is based on very sketchy evidences and at best, is a MAJOR crapshoot. If you get estrognic side effects from Clomid, STOP USING IT. It isn't helping!

Besides, even those who don't experience negitive sides, I'd say 9 out of 10 people don't even need it. But still they use it because they think they must. It'll change ...soon.

It's obvious what your opinion and experiences on Clomid are. But, remember, Clomid doesn't cause these horrible sides in everyone. I have used it alone (just to see what it would do separate from cycle) and didn't notice anything other than a little more emotion, and I did shoot bigger loads. I think the blurred vision, headaches etc. come from too high a dose. And, of course, some people just plain react badly to it for whatever reason. But, from what I see, those are the minority. In fact, I haven't seen or heard any evidence that Clomid is so bad, other than the usual post-cycle complaints and maybe two people out of hundreds that had similar problems with it to what Nelson experienced.

If think that if you do a reasonable taper and use reasonable amounts of Clomid, you'd be fine.- well, most people anyhow. If I do a good sized cycle and follow my own advice and fail, then my opinion will certainly change.


Jacob
 
I do, 2 weeks before I'm done cycle. Then I run post cycle and unleashed as well
 
Hey everyone I took sus 2 ml a week for 7 weeks but only took nolvadex for 3 weeks and only had 40 mg a day I know it was stupid to start with out having everything but it's done now and need advice I'm shrinking and my hair has thinned out please help
 
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