clomid throughout or at the end

[rush]

about to start a deca dbol cycle whats the best way
to do the clomid

 

[malkman]

I say save it for the end. There won't be any real advantage to using it throughout your cycle, and your body could build a tolerance to it, making the crucial time to use it (post cycle) less effective.

 

[HUCKLEBERRY FINNaplex]

Testosterone production begins at the hypothalamus,which scans blood levels of estrogens,androgens and other pertinent hormones.In a presence of low androgens and estrogens the hypothalamus will produce leutenizing-hormone-releasing-hormone(LHRH)which in turn stimulates the pituitary to produce leutenizing hormone(LH).LH then signals the leydig cells in the testicles to begin producing testosterone.Hence the Hypothalamic Pituitary Testicular Axis(more commonly referred to as H-P-T-A),as production is ran in that particular order.Now on to the clomid...

Clomid is a selective estrogen receptor modulator(much like nolvadex,only their binding capacities are more aggressive in seperate areas).Clomid stimulates L-H-R-H/LH production by binding to ESTROGEN receptors on the hypothalamus and pituitary,thus giving the illusion of a low presence of circulating estrogen.Note the key word here-ESTROGEN.CLOMID DOES NOT BIND ANDROGEN.Therefore,on a cycle of moderate to high amounts of ANDROGENS,clomid will have no effect whatsoever on endogenous testosterone production,as we are in a state of ANDROGENIC inhibition.It's post cycle,when blood levels of androgens begin to normalize and the typical estrogenic rebound/lag occurs,that clomid is able to re-initialize this process of testosterone production.Hope this clears up how clomid works and why to save it for post cycle,unless you're using it as an anti-estrogen...

How do we know when to administer clomid therapy,and how much should we use to get the desired effects?First you have to figure out the activity life/clearance time of your particular ester.They don't have to be completely cleared from your system,just enough that androgen levels are within normal to high normal ranges.For instance sust's longest acting and most potent ester,the undecanoate ester clears your system in roughly 3-4 weeks.So beginning clomid therapy 3 weeks after your last injection would be ideal.This is the pattern I would run my clomid in...

Day 1)300mgs...2 tabs every 4 hours or so.This will drive up blood levels of the drug for an immediate "therapeutic" response(one that would normally take many consecutive days of usage to be reached)and get the drug working aggressively towards re-initializing endogenous hormonal production.

Days 2-11)100mgs/day(bothtabs can be taken together now,as it's half life is so long it will make no difference...

Days 12-21)50mgs/day...

Day 22)DONE!

 

[rush]

excuse my ignorance Huck but I was under the
impression that clomid should be taken either
throughout or immediately after the cycle ie
1 day after the last injection.. waiting 3 weeks
I thought would mean you would lose a lot of
your gains....

 

[rush]

would the same waiting time be required for deca??

 

[MUSTANG_18]

Rush, I am not Huck but I will try to explain it. The reason to take Clomid 3 weeks after your last shot of Deca is because if you start right after your last injection then the Deca will still be very active in your system. You have to wait till it has left your system for the most part to start the Clomid. Best of luck!

M18

 

[Stew Meat]

excuse my ignorance Huck but I was under the
impression that clomid should be taken either
throughout or immediately after the cycle ie
1 day after the last injection.. waiting 3 weeks
I thought would mean you would lose a lot of
your gains....

Huck, you hit it before I could

Rush, there is plenty of exogenous test left in your system to keep the gains up until this point. Clomid is pointless and you'll only suffer side effects if you use it before then.... it will also reduce the effectiveness when you need it most, after hormone levels appproach baseline.

-Stew