clomid question

[krishna]

I have 2 weeks worth of HCG @ 1000/3 times per week, 4 weeks worth of Nolva, and 3 weeks of clomid. Since i don't have enough clomid to take throughout my PCT, what would be the most effective way to take it? I was thinking after my first week of HCG and Nolva, I would start the clomid, so that I could finish the Nolva and the Clomid at the same time? Any input?

 

[anticure]

y not just use the nolva at 20 a day?

 

[krishna]

Nolva only? For how long? My nuts are shrinken little pebbles right now. I could sure use the HCG to give them a boost. Are you saying not to use the clomid? Or not to use the clomid or the HCG?

 

[anticure]

use the HCG and the nolva... Nolva can be used PCT also

 

[krishna]

Ya I thought about doing that....maybe I will.

 

[210toosmall]

clomid should be used to get your own test production back
nolva does not acomplish this
hcg will give you a quick jump on test production but clomid needed to maintain

 

[krishna]

So can I take the clomid after the HCG like I mentioned above?

 

[nutsnack]

So can I take the clomid after the HCG like I mentioned above?

might i ask what your cycle was before giving PCT advice?

 

[nutsnack]

clomid should be used to get your own test production back
nolva does not acomplish this
hcg will give you a quick jump on test production but clomid needed to maintain

This statement is false.. clomid and nolvadex are almost compareable.. They behave in the same manner

 

[shamrock11]

Ok take the HCG and nolve and clomid like this.

week 1-3 HCG 1000iu's 3x/week
week 1-3 clomid (100mg weeks 1 and 2, 50 mg the last week)
week 1-4 nolva (40mg weeks 1,2 and 20mg weeks 3,4)

 

[210toosmall]

This statement is false.. clomid and nolvadex are almost compareable.. They behave in the same manner

if i can find the report ill post
but it is fact that while both clomid and nolva compete with estro at receptor
clomid works by blocking the hormonal feedback that stops test production the "go" signal remains on and test is steadiliy produced.
nolva does NOT have this same effect!

 

[turbogreek]

if i can find the report ill post
but it is fact that while both clomid and nolva compete with estro at receptor
clomid works by blocking the hormonal feedback that stops test production the "go" signal remains on and test is steadiliy produced.
nolva does NOT have this same effect!

damn...this contradicts all the info that jenetic has posted in the PCT forum. from the research that i have done...i read that nolva is actually better for PCT. me personally...i use clomid so i'm not arguing the statement...i'm just a little confused.

 

[anticure]

clomid and nolva are almost identical except nolva is much stronger concentration

 

[krishna]

I've been doing some research too. They work in different ways, but they accomplish similar results. I believe clomid stimulates the pituitary to release LH and FSH which stimulates natural natural test through spermatogenesis. Nolva blocks estrogen receptors which stimulates test through negative feedback. I read that the effects of clomid wear off easily and don't last though (in men). Wondering how this affects PCT?

 

[210toosmall]

I've been doing some research too. They work in different ways, but they accomplish similar results. I believe clomid stimulates the pituitary to release LH and FSH which stimulates natural natural test through spermatogenesis. Nolva blocks estrogen receptors which stimulates test through negative feedback. I read that the effects of clomid wear off easily and don't last though (in men). Wondering how this affects PCT?

ive read that clomid stays active in your system for five days so how does the effects wear off easily

 

[digit0x]

it makes you ejaculate large.

 

[krishna]

ive read that clomid stays active in your system for five days so how does the effects wear off easily

5 days isn't long compared to the duration of your off cycle. That's what I was talking about. I basically meant that the effects of clomid have shown not to last - no long term results.