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Clomid or Vitamin C for Infertility?
Most folks using aromatizing steroids like to use Clomid because it's a competitive estrogen agonist and can prevent gynecomastia. However, urban legend has it (and I admit that I once believed this also) that Clomid can do more than prevent gynecomastia.
Most folks think Clomid is the uber-solution to preventing transient infertility associated with heavy androgen use. Bill Roberts, much to his credit, never bought into this theory and has been a fervent supporter of using HCG with Clomid to "keep the boys bouncing." Turns out (as usual), Bill is 100% on the money. A little-known study conducted about twenty years ago confirms Bill's hunch that Clomid isn't going to do much when it comes to improving fertility in men with problems in that area.
Consider this: A prospective randomized trial was carried out to assess the effect of six months' treatment with either clomiphene citrate or vitamin C in 179 men who had not been able to father children. There was no significant difference in their wives' pregnancy rates between the two treatment groups.
In order to detect a subgroup that might respond to clomiphene, the results were analyzed according to pre-treatment FSH and sperm density, with allowance being made for the result of the wives' tests, but still there was no significant difference in treatment response. Vitamin C would seem a preferable and cheaper alternative treatment for male infertility. (5)
I would like to have the opinion of some vet on this......
Would it mean that Nolvadex would be enough for post-recovery and it would eliminate the risk of gyno too...
Anyone?
Clomid or Vitamin C for Infertility?
Most folks using aromatizing steroids like to use Clomid because it's a competitive estrogen agonist and can prevent gynecomastia. However, urban legend has it (and I admit that I once believed this also) that Clomid can do more than prevent gynecomastia.
Most folks think Clomid is the uber-solution to preventing transient infertility associated with heavy androgen use. Bill Roberts, much to his credit, never bought into this theory and has been a fervent supporter of using HCG with Clomid to "keep the boys bouncing." Turns out (as usual), Bill is 100% on the money. A little-known study conducted about twenty years ago confirms Bill's hunch that Clomid isn't going to do much when it comes to improving fertility in men with problems in that area.
Consider this: A prospective randomized trial was carried out to assess the effect of six months' treatment with either clomiphene citrate or vitamin C in 179 men who had not been able to father children. There was no significant difference in their wives' pregnancy rates between the two treatment groups.
In order to detect a subgroup that might respond to clomiphene, the results were analyzed according to pre-treatment FSH and sperm density, with allowance being made for the result of the wives' tests, but still there was no significant difference in treatment response. Vitamin C would seem a preferable and cheaper alternative treatment for male infertility. (5)
I would like to have the opinion of some vet on this......
Would it mean that Nolvadex would be enough for post-recovery and it would eliminate the risk of gyno too...
Anyone?
