Clomid as a remedy for low 1AD estrogen levels

[latinus_spicticus]

I am going to use clomid as a possible remedy for low estrogen levels for my next 1AD cycle. I know, I know, clomid is traditionally an anti-estrogen. But it is a site-receptor competitor, not an anti-aromatase; meaninig it will not reduce estrogen, per se-- but it will compete with estrogen at the receptor site. We all know that the adverse effects of 1AD such as low libido/energy are due to a low estrogen level in the brain etc. I was thinking that using clomid would act as a mild estrogen and offset these side-effects. After the cycle, of course, I will combine clomid with liquidex for two weeks and then go on liquidex for about a month to prevent any estrogenic rebound associated with 1AD that I have experienced in the past. Let me know what you think-- I know this is not based on solid science but I like the effects of 1AD by itself (no h2o retention, LBM gains like a mutha') and don't want to stack 4ad wiht it in hopes to offset the sexual/mood/energy sides. BTW, I sent back my 4AD-EC after two weeks and got a refund, which I used to buy more 1AD and clomid. Hehehe. Fuck biotest.

Thanks guys. Later.

 

[pa1ad]

I am going to use clomid as a possible remedy for low estrogen levels for my next 1AD cycle. I know, I know, clomid is traditionally an anti-estrogen. But it is a site-receptor competitor, not an anti-aromatase; meaninig it will not reduce estrogen, per se-- but it will compete with estrogen at the receptor site. We all know that the adverse effects of 1AD such as low libido/energy are due to a low estrogen level in the brain etc. I was thinking that using clomid would act as a mild estrogen and offset these side-effects. After the cycle, of course, I will combine clomid with liquidex for two weeks and then go on liquidex for about a month to prevent any estrogenic rebound associated with 1AD that I have experienced in the past. Let me know what you think-- I know this is not based on solid science but I like the effects of 1AD by itself (no h2o retention, LBM gains like a mutha') and don't want to stack 4ad wiht it in hopes to offset the sexual/mood/energy sides. BTW, I sent back my 4AD-EC after two weeks and got a refund, which I used to buy more 1AD and clomid. Hehehe. Fuck biotest.

Thanks guys. Later.

We do not really know if the lowered libido is from lack of estrogen or not, it is just one theory. I would be interested in what happens when you take the clomid, however if it does work for you I still would not see that as definitive evidence of the libido problems being from estrogen deprivation, but it would be interesting evidence.

AS for the 4-AD ester product....I am not gonna even comment on that one lest you throw another one of your hissy fits

 

[69Muscle]

Re: Re: Clomid as a remedy for low 1AD estrogen levels

We do not really know if the lowered libido is from lack of estrogen or not, it is just one theory. I would be interested in what happens when you take the clomid, however if it does work for you I still would not see that as definitive evidence of the libido problems being from estrogen deprivation, but it would be interesting evidence.

AS for the 4-AD ester product....I am not gonna even comment on that one lest you throw another one of your hissy fits

What about taking Armidex during 1-AD. I broke up with my girl so I don't care about lower libido but I would like to combat it somehow. I'm ready for another cycle, however I would like to get a hard-on while on it. Any progress with research about it?

BTW i'm talking about taking Arimidex thoughout the 6 week cycle at .25mg a day.

 

[pa1ad]

Re: Re: Re: Clomid as a remedy for low 1AD estrogen levels

What about taking Armidex during 1-AD. I broke up with my girl so I don't care about lower libido but I would like to combat it somehow. I'm ready for another cycle, however I would like to get a hard-on while on it. Any progress with research about it?

BTW i'm talking about taking Arimidex thoughout the 6 week cycle at .25mg a day.

Any "research" on the use of arimidex with 1-AD would be my analysis of feedback from people like you who voluntarily try the stack and then report it to the group or directly to me. So far, I have never heard of any feedback so you can still be the first to try it

 

[69Muscle]

Since i've done 3 cycles of 1-AD and 2 of Gear and gained (and kept) a total of 30 lbs on them in under a year I should be able to tell what's going on in my body.

If I decide to do this I'll let you know. I have the armidex already.
I end up losing at least 10lbs when I stop 1-AD from my high point on it. I'm trying to avoid that as well as the sex drive issue.

 

[latinus_spicticus]

Re: Re: Clomid as a remedy for low 1AD estrogen levels

We do not really know if the lowered libido is from lack of estrogen or not, it is just one theory. I would be interested in what happens when you take the clomid, however if it does work for you I still would not see that as definitive evidence of the libido problems being from estrogen deprivation, but it would be interesting evidence.

AS for the 4-AD ester product....I am not gonna even comment on that one lest you throw another one of your hissy fits

No wonder Kelsey "the alien'' left you.

ANyways, I have discontinued 4AD-EC and returned it-- couldn't take the taste-- I literally puked every time I tried to take it after the 12th day on it. Which is why I am going to start clomid at 50mg eod to see if the libido/shrinkage/mood/lethargy issue can be remedied by the clomiphene. Anyway, I will run 1AD for another 7 weeks (9 week cycle total). Starting at week 4, I will begin clomid and continue throughout until 2 weeks after cycle. I will also start arimidex at .25mg eod beginning one day after the cycle ends and run it for 4 weeks. I want to see if this will work to offset the EXTREME estrogenic rebound caused by 1AD use and see if I can keep my gains. I have already gone up 11lbs, I expect to add 10 more and keep 15 after it is all said and done. So here is the basic outline of my cycle if interested:

Weeks 1 through 9: 1AD 600mg/day
Weeks 1-2: 4ADEC 200mg/day
Weeks 4-11: clomid 50 mg eod (then ed post-cycle)
Weeks 9-13 anastrazole .25mg eod

I will keep the board updated.

BTW, Like I said--I returned the 4ADEC and it was no big deal. I got all of my money back despite using a full bottle. Sometimes they are shysters but they can be useful at times. 1AD is still king, and if clomid alleviates the sex/mood sides then I will be a happy camper.

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[cool_sub]

I have to say that this 1-AD is giving me more bone-ons than when I wasn't taking it. Maybe I am just lucky but I wake up every morning with one and I'm going into week 4 of my cycle now.

I haven't noticed any other effects either to do with mood or lethargy.

 

[69Muscle]

You must of had a high estrogen level prior

 

[latinus_spicticus]

I don't know exactly what is going on with the 1AD/libido thing. I usually have a supercharged sex-drive for the first 1-2 or maybe 3 weeks while on then it goes down the tubes. Once I start the clomid (which should act as an estrgen in the brain tissues ((or something like that))) I will know if the lack of estrogen is causing the libido decrease and moodiness/lethargy.

 

[pa1ad]

I don't know exactly what is going on with the 1AD/libido thing. I usually have a supercharged sex-drive for the first 1-2 or maybe 3 weeks while on then it goes down the tubes. Once I start the clomid (which should act as an estrgen in the brain tissues ((or something like that))) I will know if the lack of estrogen is causing the libido decrease and moodiness/lethargy.

No you won't. You have no idea how the clomid acts in specific parts of the brain. Nobody does. Its all mysterious. If the clomid works it will only open up more questions