Clomid and PCT

[Dr. JK]

I finished a long cycle (6 months) about 3 weeks ago. I have been on Clomid /100mg/day since then and did 7000 IU's/week 2X and 5000IU's of HCG this last week.

My questions for the hardcore "cyclers" how long should I run 100mg's (approx. cause I know I need to do a blood work test to verify) and is there any benefit switching to 50mg/day for an extensive period??

I have typically done 2 weeks of Clomid 100mg/day and then another 2 weeks of 50mg/day

What do you guys think?

Thanks

 

[acneman]

I finished a long cycle (6 months) about 3 weeks ago. I have been on Clomid /100mg/day since then and did 7000 IU's/week 2X and 5000IU's this last week.

My questions for the hardcore "cyclers" how long should I run 100mg's (approx. cause I know I need to do a blood work test to verify) and is there any benefit switching to 50mg/day for an extensive period??

I have typically done 2 weeks of Clomid 100mg/day and then another 2 weeks of 50mg/day

What do you guys think?

Thanks

assuming the 7000ius was hcg
and with a very long cycle like that
i would add an aromatase inhibitor like aromasin or aifm for a few weeks if you have it
if not its kinda late to order it
current theory on this site says 50mg/day is sufficient
ive done a 4 month cycle before but it was a stupid bell curve thing with a long taper off so i have no realworld experince with a cycle like yours
however
clomid does not mask low tes levels or supressed hpta
so i would continue to run it until i could feel my body recovering
if it dosent happen within a few weeks i would hit the hcg again and continue the clomid for a few weeks after that but if you feel that you will have to do that i would go ahead and order the aromasin/aifm i preparation for the next pct round of hcg/clomid

kinda rambling answer but i think i hit on what you needed
if its unclear pm or on this thread ill try to be more precise

 

[Dr. JK]

Thanks acneman for the correction, i.e. HCG.
I forgoto to mention that I am also taking 20mg of Nolvadex/day and 50mg/day of Proviron. I am probably going to reduce the Nolvadex & Proviron does in half.

assuming the 7000ius was hcg
and with a very long cycle like that
i would add an aromatase inhibitor like aromasin or aifm for a few weeks if you have it
if not its kinda late to order it
current theory on this site says 50mg/day is sufficient
ive done a 4 month cycle before but it was a stupid bell curve thing with a long taper off so i have no realworld experince with a cycle like yours
however
clomid does not mask low tes levels or supressed hpta
so i would continue to run it until i could feel my body recovering
if it dosent happen within a few weeks i would hit the hcg again and continue the clomid for a few weeks after that but if you feel that you will have to do that i would go ahead and order the aromasin/aifm i preparation for the next pct round of hcg/clomid

kinda rambling answer but i think i hit on what you needed
if its unclear pm or on this thread ill try to be more precise

 

[acneman]

Thanks acneman for the correction, i.e. HCG.
I forgoto to mention that I am also taking 20mg of Nolvadex/day and 50mg/day of Proviron. I am probably going to reduce the Nolvadex & Proviron does in half.

i think thats great
proviron i would discontinue about 2 weeks after hcg
continue with nolva/comid until you feel recovered

if it takse more than a month
start over with original pct plan and go through it again proviron and all
i really think this will work for you

 

[Dr. JK]

i think thats great
proviron i would discontinue about 2 weeks after hcg
continue with nolva/comid until you feel recovered

if it takse more than a month
start over with original pct plan and go through it again proviron and all
i really think this will work for you

Thanks bro!!!!!

 

[solidspine]

I have typically done 2 weeks of Clomid 100mg/day and then another 2 weeks of 50mg/day

That should work, how do your nuts feel, I like HCG because clomid makes me an emotional retard.

 

[ryan04]

Thats a pretty long cycle, I would run 100 mgs a day for at least a month if possible. I could be wrong on this one, but I think clomid (unlike nolva) is far more effective with higher doses. Good luck bro.

 

[acneman]

Thats a pretty long cycle, I would run 100 mgs a day for at least a month if possible. I could be wrong on this one, but I think clomid (unlike nolva) is far more effective with higher doses. Good luck bro.

i believe that macro said that going above 50mg of clomid raised side effects more that benifits but with that long of a cycle it couldnt hurt to try it and see if the sides are a problem. that could be just the kick you need. ive never used clomid so i dont know how it effects me but i bought some years ago and will use it if i ever go on again

i was thinkin on this and want to say look out for post cycle depression with a cycle that long
if you start feelin that pm me or post on this thread for advice about it
ill be listenin for ya

 

[Dr. JK]

i believe that macro said that going above 50mg of clomid raised side effects more that benifits but with that long of a cycle it couldnt hurt to try it and see if the sides are a problem. that could be just the kick you need. ive never used clomid so i dont know how it effects me but i bought some years ago and will use it if i ever go on again

i was thinkin on this and want to say look out for post cycle depression with a cycle that long
if you start feelin that pm me or post on this thread for advice about it
ill be listenin for ya

Thanks for advice and encouragement. I have done many long cycles so I know that post cycle depression kicks in, but I have always maintained that I am happy with the way I look and that any feeling of depression is only temporary and I am glad to be "clean" again. This kind of attitude has helped me through the tough times after a cycle.

I go by Time ON=Time OFF

I also drop the weights (lower) and intensity so I don't overtrain. I am one of those guys who don't care who is lifting more or less, I just care about feeling the "pump" and maintaining what I gained through the cycle.

Bottom line is you have to be happy with yourself, otherwise you will never be happy with being OFF.

 

[odoyal rulez]

Thanks for advice and encouragement. I have done many long cycles so I know that post cycle depression kicks in, but I have always maintained that I am happy with the way I look and that any feeling of depression is only temporary and I am glad to be "clean" again. This kind of attitude has helped me through the tough times after a cycle.

I go by Time ON=Time OFF

I also drop the weights (lower) and intensity so I don't overtrain. I am one of those guys who don't care who is lifting more or less, I just care about feeling the "pump" and maintaining what I gained through the cycle.

Bottom line is you have to be happy with yourself, otherwise you will never be happy with being OFF.

Great attitude man.

 

[immortalis]

How are you feeling where you currently are at?

I've never done a really extended cycle until the one I am running now, and its going to end up being close to 6 months when its all said and done. So I'm curious where youre at after the measures you've already taken with the clomid/nolva/prov.

 

[Dr. JK]

How are you feeling where you currently are at?

I've never done a really extended cycle until the one I am running now, and its going to end up being close to 6 months when its all said and done. So I'm curious where youre at after the measures you've already taken with the clomid/nolva/prov.

I am feeling OK, nuts have gotten a lot bigger and my libido is starting to come back as well as I am able to maintain about 80% strength/size from the cycle.
The HCG shots really help in jump starting HPTA and the Clomid work slowly but surely. I did go through the Clomid sides (a bit emotional, depressed) but that only lasted about a week.

My only advice to you is to taper down the dose to a low level so your body starts to adjust so that when you discontinue it's not a big shock to your body..

Good luck