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Clenbuterol FAQ>>>

BigAndy69

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Please read this and stop bothering me with 20 different questions on Clen...

Sorry, but I'm so sick of repeating myself...This is the updated version found on www.anabolicextreme.com Back issue 70

What is Clenbuterol?

Clenbuterol is a beta-2 agonist and is used in many countries as a broncodilator
for the treatment of asthma. Because of it's long half life, clenbuterol is not
FDA approved for medical use. It is a central nervous system stimulant and acts
like adrenaline. It shares many of the same side effects as other CNS stimulants
like ephedrine. Contrary to popular belief, Clenbuterol has a half life of 35
hours and not 48 hours.

Dosing and Cycling

Clenbuterol comes in 20mcg tablets, although it is also available in syrup, pump
and injectable form. It's also available as a powder in some areas. Doses are
very dependent on how well the user responds to the side effects, but somewhere
in the range of 4-8 tablets per day for men and 2-4 tablets a day for women is
most common. Clenbuterol loses its thermogenic effects after around 8 weeks when
body temperature drops back to normal. Its anabolic/anti-catabolic properties
fade away at around the 18 day mark. Taking the long half life into
consideration, the most effective way of cycling clen is 2 weeks on/ 2 weeks off
for no more than 12 weeks. Ephedrine or Yohimbine can be used in the off weeks.

Clenbuterol vs Ephedrine vs DNP

Ephedrine will raise metabolic levels by about 2-3 percent and 200mg of DNP
raises metabolic levels by about 30 percent. Clenbuterol raises metabolic levels
about 10 percent and it can raise body temperature several degrees.

DNP is by far the most effective fat burner but many people will never use it
because of the risks associated with it. It also offers no anti-catabolic
benefit. Although it does have anti-catabolic effect, ephedrine's short
half-life prevents it from being all that effective.

As far as side effects, Clenbuterol's are certainly milder than DNP's, and some
would even say milder than an ECA stack. There is no ECA-style crash on
Clenbuterol and many users find it easier on the prostate and sex drive. This
may in part be due to the fact that Clen is generally used for only 2 weeks at a
time.

Side effects

NAUSEA
NERVOUSNESS
DIZZINESS
DROWSINESS
DRY MOUTH
FACIAL FLUSHING
HEADACHE
HEARTBURN
INCREASED BLOOD PRESSURE
INCREASED SWEATING
INSOMNIA
LIGHTHEADEDNESS
MUSCLE CRAMPS
TREMORS
VOMITING
CHEST PAIN

The most significant side effects are muscle cramps, nervousness, headaches, and
increased blood pressure.

Muscle cramps can be avoided by drinking 1.5-2 gallons of water and consuming
bananas and oranges or supplementing with potassium tablets at 200-400mg a
day taken before bed on an empty stomach. Taurine at 3-5grams is a necessity in
minimizing cramps.

Headaches can easily be avoided with Tylenol Extra Strength taking at the first
signs of a headache.

Common Uses

Post-Cycle Therapy: Clen is used post cycle to aid in recovery. It allows the
user to continue eating large amounts of food, without worrying about adding
body fat. It also helps the user maintain more of his strength as well as his
intensity in the gym. Diet: Roughly the same as on cycle.

Fat loss: The most popular use for Clen, it also increases muscle hardness,
vascularity, strength and size on a caloric deficit. For the most significant
fat loss, Clen can be stacked with T3. Diet: A high protein(1.5g per lb of
bodyweight), moderate carb(0.5g to 1g per lb of bodyweight), low fat diet(0.25g
per lb of bodyweight) seems to work best with Clen.

Alternative to Steroids: Clenbuterol has mild steroid-like properties and can be
used by non-AS using bodybuilder to increase LBM as well as strength and muscle
hardness. Diet: A moderate carb, high protein, moderate fat diet work well.

Stimulant/Performance Enhancement: It can be used as a stimulant, but an ECA
stack may be a better choice because of it's much shorter half-life. Diet: To
take full advantage of the stimulatory effects of Clen, carbohydrates must be
included in the diet. Ketogenic diets do not work well in this case.

Precautions: Is Clen for you?

The same precautions that apply to Ephedrine must be applied to Clen, although
some people find ECA stacks are harsher than Clen. It should not be stacked
with other CNS stimulants such as Ephedrine and Yohimbine. These combinations
are unnecessary and potentially dangerous. Caffeine can be used in moderation
before a workout for an extra quick. burst of energy.

A word on Ketotifen

Ketotifen is safe antihistamine used extensively some European countries to
treat asthma and allergies. It can up regulate beta-2-receptors that Clen down
regulates. Basically, it allows users to extend their use of Clen for 6-8 weeks
at a time. 2-3mg a day is ideal, 10mg as found in "superclen" can make users
extremely drowsy. It also increases the effectiveness of Clen so doses must be
adjusted accordingly. The downfall of this drug is its ability to induce
extreme hunger is some people, which is not a desirable state to be in when
dieting.

Cycling Clenbuterol

Most users that report bad side effects and discontinue use are those who use
high doses right at the start of the cycle. The worst side effects occur within
the first 3-4 days of use.

A first time user should not exceed 40mcg the first day. Increase by one tab
until the side effects are not tolerable

Example of a first cycle:

Day1: 20mcg
Day2: 40mcg
Day3: 60mcg
Day4: 80mcg
Day5: 80mcg(Note: Increase the dose only when the side effects are tolerable)
Day6-Day12: 100mcg
Day13: 80 mcg (Tapering is not necessary, but it helps some users get back to
normal gradually)
Day14: 60 mcgs
Day15: off
Day16: off
Day 17: ECA/ NYC stack

Example of a second cycle:

Day1: 60mcg
Day2: 80mcg
Day3: 80mcg
Day4: 100mcg
Day5: 100mcg
Day6-Day12: 120mcg
Day13: 100 mcg
Day14: 80 mcgs
Day15: off
Day16: off
Day 17: ECA/ NYC stack

What else do I need to know?

Taurine MUST be used with Clen at 3-5g daily. Clenbuterol depletes taurine
levels in the liver which stops the conversion of T4 to T3 in the liver.
Taurine allows the user to avoid the dreaded rebound effect and painful muscle
cramps. It's a must with Clen.

Clenbuterol should not be taken too close to a workout. It can interfere with
your breathing and complete ruin your workout. When doing cardio, it's
advisable to stay at a consistent pace and avoid HIIT style routines.

Do not take Clen Past 4pm and drink plenty of water; 1.5-2 gallons a day.

BigAndy69
 
It's about time somebody took careof that. Now there will be no more excuses for repetitive clen threads. Well don BA69
 
bump for those who PM'd me about my clen cramps..thanks, andy!!
 
Johnny Cut said:
Andy likes to Bump Bump Bump....lol

Hey bro, imagine checking your email everyday and getting 10-20 Clen questions a day...the same questions over and over again..."where can I get Taurine" is my favorite..lol
 
BigAndy69 said:


Hey bro, imagine checking your email everyday and getting 10-20 Clen questions a day...the same questions over and over again..."where can I get Taurine" is my favorite..lol

i love it when u do post.....my favorite is

Subject: Source Question

EMAIL BODY: Hey can u give me a source

lol.............great post
 
Thanks Huck...

Btw, You can pick up Taurine at GNC..lol Don't email me for a source for Taurine I think I'm going to pull what's left over of my hair.
 
I think it needs to be noted that there is no evidence that clen has a net anabolic effect in HUMANS- all studies pertaining to anabolic effects imparted by clen were done with animals.
 
B182 said:
I think it needs to be noted that there is no evidence that clen has a net anabolic effect in HUMANS- all studies pertaining to anabolic effects imparted by clen were done with animals.
Agreed with that, the anabolic effect noted in animals was exerted on the beta-3 receptors, of which humans have none or very few but certainly not enough to count as a positive benefit.

Bigfella.
 
Alot of Questions:

Why can't you take Clen after 4pm? If your up to taking 6-8 tabs a day on a cycle when is the best time to take Clen? There is no way I could take 6 tabs every 2 hours before 4pm. Do you take the tabs an hour apart? Can you take 2 tabs at a time? Do you take Clen with or without food? Is taking clen an hour before a workout or should it be further out than that?

I know I have alot of questions but I'm starting a Clen cycle in two weeks and I want to be sure I'm taking it correctly.

Thanks!
 
Great post.

The question I have is it safe to use with anabolics? I was thinking of doing a cutting cycle with Fina and maybe throwing in Clen and possibly T3? What are your thoughts on this?
 
Why can't you take Clen after 4pm? If your up to taking 6-8 tabs a day on a cycle when is the best time to take Clen? There is no way I could take 6 tabs every 2 hours before 4pm. Do you take the tabs an hour apart? Can you take 2 tabs at a time? Do you take Clen with or without food? Is taking clen an hour before a workout or should it be further out than that?

Buff Griff: When taking 6-8 tabs a day simply take 3-4 in the morning and then take the other 3-4 around mid-day.
Be sure to taper up gradually to see if 8 tabs are gonna be ok for you. It should take you around 7-8 days to recognise your "peak point" at which you can take no more.
P
 
FreakMonster said:
Great post.

The question I have is it safe to use with anabolics? I was thinking of doing a cutting cycle with Fina and maybe throwing in Clen and possibly T3? What are your thoughts on this?

Not a good idea for many reasons,

Clen has a negative impact on your prostate and Fina is even worse. Add test to the mix and start looking for a good Doctor

Clen makes your hands tremble. Not a good thing when you are injecting.
 
BigAndy69 said:


Not a good idea for many reasons,

Clen has a negative impact on your prostate and Fina is even worse. Add test to the mix and start looking for a good Doctor

Clen makes your hands tremble. Not a good thing when you are injecting.

how is clen bad for the prostate ?
 
XzRzX said:


how is clen bad for the prostate ?

All drugs like ephedrine, Clen and Yohimbine (beta agonists) are bad for the prostate...not sure why but they definetely are.

You'll notice urinary retention on Clen (you have to pee, you feel like you are about to pee but it won't come out). That's a sign of an enlarged prostate.
 
I was considering trying the liquid clen with the same doses in this post, but was going to add it to my 750mg/wk enanthate cycle, what is the main reason that this would be a bad idea?
 
How about Saw Palmetto for the prostate?
Its used when juicing so I was wondering if it would have the same effect when on Clen?
 
yes saw palmetto should reduce a inflammed prostate and help with any burning sensation during urination also use upto 50mg of elemental zinc too.
 
T3 Cycle with Clen

BigAndy/Others.

How would you cycle your T-3 with Clen?

2 week cycles matching the clen (numbers are the Qty of 25mcg T3 tabs)
Something like
123 44444 332211

Or, a longer 60 Day T-3 cycle that overlaps a Clen/ECA or NYC 2-week alternating stack?

10% Ramp up; 40% Level; 50% Ramp Down
 
Re: T3 Cycle with Clen

AustinTX said:
BigAndy/Others.

How would you cycle your T-3 with Clen?

2 week cycles matching the clen (numbers are the Qty of 25mcg T3 tabs)
Something like
123 44444 332211

Or, a longer 60 Day T-3 cycle that overlaps a Clen/ECA or NYC 2-week alternating stack?

10% Ramp up; 40% Level; 50% Ramp Down

Bump for T3 vs Clen and also stacking!??
 
thanks

it's amazing how much I learn here, I have a liver problem and a thyroid problem and I am on a lot of T-3, this is the first I ever heard or needing taurine, now I will supplement with it.
 
Taurine reposted

Now go to my site which is www.animalkits.be and read the thread 'Taurine reposted' which is on the third page where you will get the REAL info on taurine which I've touted for at least 3 years, but I'm sure you heard it from somebody else.

Then while you are there you can read other threads and uses for taurine as well.
 
Yea, my board is down. Ha!

That's why ulter and fonzy were over there making defamatory posts. My board is never down.

HAHA!
 
Yeah, now that I think of it, I seem to recall reading something about a...

... BUMP!

And while you read the long post... might as well get some of that... :blow:
 
i have a problem with one of the things you wrote. it's about clen being anabolic. that is true in animals but not humans. animals have lots of beta-2 receptors which means clen is anabolic to them. well if it is true to animals, then it must true for humans right? wrong, we posess very little to no beta-2 receptors causing clen to have NO anabolic affects on humans.
:)
 
Beachbum1546 said:
i have a problem with one of the things you wrote. it's about clen being anabolic. that is true in animals but not humans. animals have lots of beta-2 receptors which means clen is anabolic to them. well if it is true to animals, then it must true for humans right? wrong, we posess very little to no beta-2 receptors causing clen to have NO anabolic affects on humans.
:)

Its actually beta 3 receptors that humas lack. when beta 2 receptors stop working, beta 3 increases in animals causing the anabolic effect through insulin mechanisms. this does not happen in humans.
 
liquidmuscle said:
always a good read, i am going to be hitting the clen next monday
Yeah it is i printed it..this thread or questions on clen always seem to pop up..Hitting the clen in 2 weeks also
 
Question? I read the FAQ and was unclear about the twelve week cycle. Would you be kind enough to explain? The twelve weeks of clen, is that counting the weeks off as well?
 
rippedelite said:
Question? I read the FAQ and was unclear about the twelve week cycle. Would you be kind enough to explain? The twelve weeks of clen, is that counting the weeks off as well?

Yes it counts the weeks off.
 
Going to bump this one more time with hopes that the rash of recent clen questions will be answered.
 
pctherapy said:
Its actually beta 3 receptors that humas lack. when beta 2 receptors stop working, beta 3 increases in animals causing the anabolic effect through insulin mechanisms. this does not happen in humans.


i second this
 
Is there a problem with taking my whole dose in the morning? I am up to 120mcg's liquid clen atm and I have just been taking the whole dose every morning. Just for informational purposes for other on the 3rd day 80mcg or so i caught wicked cramps during workout, lol... went and bought taurine right away and now taking 4 grams a day and no more cramping... using clen with yombieburn es 20 minutes pre workout gives me SILLY energy in the gym. Still have not had the balls to add ephedrine.
 
GoFastMan said:
Is there a problem with taking my whole dose in the morning? I am up to 120mcg's liquid clen atm and I have just been taking the whole dose every morning. Just for informational purposes for other on the 3rd day 80mcg or so i caught wicked cramps during workout, lol... went and bought taurine right away and now taking 4 grams a day and no more cramping... using clen with yombieburn es 20 minutes pre workout gives me SILLY energy in the gym. Still have not had the balls to add ephedrine.


There is no real problem with taking the full dose at once, I feel it's easier on my heart and it's better overall. As far as adding Ephedrine, I don't see the point. Add 12.5mcg of T3 and see what happens...
 
I ran clen for two weeks and got great results. I've been off for a week and a half now. I just bought some taurine in bulk and have been taking 7grams a day for 3 days now. Can I start my next clen cycle like now instead of waiting half a week since I'm loaded up on taurine right now? I'll probably just wait. Also, now that I have the taurine, if I take that while on clen, can I run it longer than two weeks, like three weeks? How much time off between use then? I just need to lose maybe 15 more lbs so I'm hoping to get it off in 2 more cycles or less.
 
Quick question....I've been on liquid clen (not AG) for about a week now and I'm up to 120mcg, but still not getting the typical effects (i.e. jittery, shakes, etc.). I have been sweating considerably more during low intesity cardio, but aside from this, all I've been experiencing is mild headaches and nausea that comes and goes. Is this normal? Or is this bad shit?

Also....sorry if this is a stupid question.....but I've been having a real hard time downing this shit cuz of the taste, so typically what I do is release the dropper straight down my throat so that it doesn't really touch the tongue. It stings a lot, but at least I'm not really tasting it. Is this not good to do? Do I need to let the stuff absorb into my glands via on or under my tongue? Does it make a difference?
 
Canuck4 said:
Gotta bump this ^
Clen is the ONLY metabolic enhancer my body will tolerate. ECA makes me sick as a dog, and I won't do DNP. I don't think its the Caffein in ECA, its the Ephedra. No way can I take that stuff. I do well with Clen, no real sides at all, and I find at least 5 tabs a day are needed to meaningful effect. I agree taper up and down, but you can do it on a steeper pitch. Sometimes my heart races at night, though, but nothing bad you can't live with. It does make you sweat nicely. I hate that, but its necessary. I've woken up soaked, I mean drenched, not very pleasant.
 
Let me say that Clenbuterol for me is much, much more tolerable than any ECA or NYC stack I've ever tried. I'm sensitive to stimulants and get quite sick from them, but have done very well with Clen, and have been able to slowly work up to recommended doses with no problems at all. I have found T3 works very well with it, and also creates no majour problems for me. Unfortunately, I have yet to find a suitable product for the two weeks off of clen, other than continuing the T3.
 
BUMP 4 Andrew.....


I'm tryin' 2 live my life 2 the fullest extent, you stole my Clen, now you know what them bullets just meant!!!!!



DIV

:chomp:
 
im assuming the bottle dropper when full is 200 mcg. Whats the best way to take it when using the dropper and just using the first dose of 20 mcg.
 
zxe003 said:
Quick question....


Also....sorry if this is a stupid question.....but I've been having a real hard time downing this shit cuz of the taste, so typically what I do is release the dropper straight down my throat so that it doesn't really touch the tongue. It stings a lot, but at least I'm not really tasting it. Is this not good to do? Do I need to let the stuff absorb into my glands via on or under my tongue? Does it make a difference?


Bump on this question ?
 
Beachbum1546 said:
is there a difference strength wise between liquid (AG) and tab form?


mg for mg no. you never know if the consistancy is what it is with the liquids though. 100mcg/ml could be 50mcgs....you never know....there are good liquid companys out there though
 
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