Clen/T3 + Androgel pump?

[DC2getRipped]

I know Androgel isn't great, but I didn't want to do a cycle of clen/t3 without some aas and risk a lot of muscle loss.

I can take 81mg of Androgel a day with this cycle, but is it worth it, or should I go with a better aas? Only issue I face is the time to get it.

I'm 287lbs and 28% bf. 6'3" tall and looking to drop fat foremost, but add on and preserve current muscle mass.

Diet is low carb (morning afternoon only), followed by veggies in the evening. Protein at 1.5g of lean mass.

I also have liquid keto to keep the clen cycle going for 6 weeks.

 

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28% bf u can't drop that without clen and t3?

Have u tried naturally to get it lower

 

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High bf and drugs don't go well

U already have stress on ur body with that amount of fat..

What's ur lifting history and experience in the gym?

How did u get that bf% #

 

[DC2getRipped]

28% bf u can't drop that without clen and t3?

Have u tried naturally to get it lower

High bf and drugs don't go well

U already have stress on ur body with that amount of fat..

What's ur lifting history and experience in the gym?

How did u get that bf% #

I was over 40% before and upwards of 330lbs. I've been hitting the gym hard since last October, only missed one week and that was when my son was born (5 days actually).

During this time I was more into bulking up muscle mass than loosing body fat as I knew this time of year I would start to cut. This isn't my first time around the block, I was heaving into bodybuilding/fitness back in the late 90's and early/mid 2000's... then fell into a career with long hours, to much traveling, and no time after work.

In short, money does not buy happiness... only the ability to eat out every meal and shop at Destination XL.

It's been about 4 years since I've really been back into it, and I wouldn't let myself touch anything until I new I was a) seriously committed and b) ready for it.

My gains have gone up a LOT, muscle mass is definitely there, I just need to cut the fat. I have a scale (that's reportedly pretty accurate) and also tested bf% at the doctors office with calipers. Water test is next, but have to be below 275 (scales max).

I've been prescribed 81mg of Androgel daily from my PCP, this was back in early December as my test results came back at 272 with 40.5mg daily. I have to go back in late April to get another test blood test done and I know the numbers will be up, so it will be back to nothing or 20/40mg which I'm fine with.

Anyway, that's my question is Androgel "worth" it for an aas with this stack, or should I look into something like win, anavar, etc.?

 

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I was over 40% before and upwards of 330lbs. I've been hitting the gym hard since last October, only missed one week and that was when my son was born (5 days actually).

During this time I was more into bulking up muscle mass than loosing body fat as I knew this time of year I would start to cut. This isn't my first time around the block, I was heaving into bodybuilding/fitness back in the late 90's and early/mid 2000's... then fell into a career with long hours, to much traveling, and no time after work.

In short, money does not buy happiness... only the ability to eat out every meal and shop at Destination XL.

It's been about 4 years since I've really been back into it, and I wouldn't let myself touch anything until I new I was a) seriously committed and b) ready for it.

My gains have gone up a LOT, muscle mass is definitely there, I just need to cut the fat. I have a scale (that's reportedly pretty accurate) and also tested bf% at the doctors office with calipers. Water test is next, but have to be below 275 (scales max).

I've been prescribed 81mg of Androgel daily from my PCP, this was back in early December as my test results came back at 272 with 40.5mg daily. I have to go back in late April to get another test blood test done and I know the numbers will be up, so it will be back to nothing or 20/40mg which I'm fine with.

Anyway, that's my question is Androgel "worth" it for an aas with this stack, or should I look into something like win, anavar, etc.?

i would say androgel would suffice at 28% bodyfat as clen alone has some anticatabolic effects and keeping in mind fat is a preferred energy source to muscle so i wouldnt think you would lose to much muscle. having said that i believe you should try lose as much as possible naturally or maybe try adding one at a time in. cycle clen for a few months, drop some more bf% and then when weight loss stalls then try adding t3 and other supps in. i cant remember where i read it but this was a pretty good way to put it.... losing weight is a long war if you use all your weapons at the start (in this case drugs) then you will lose the war at the end. i would simply add drugs in as you plateau but remember diet and training are way more important than the drugs. good luck man

 

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100% go with the gel over var or winny

Now if u can get some test to inject imo that's the best route

But gel will suffice

 

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Still think u can cut more bf without the clen and t3 but that's just me

If u were to get down to 20%?u would be much happier with results and prob keep most of the fat off rather than get that rebound weight

What bf would u like to get down to ?

 

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Again I will say I don't think clen and t3 are best for ya now

 

[bigorse]

i agree ^^ plus i dont think you should use all your tools at once so even when you do decide to start using i would go with one or the other then go with the stack when you plateau again, thats just my 0.02