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Clen first-timer

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I'm incorporating clen into the cutting phase of my long cycle, and it's the first time I will be using it. I read all the FAQ's and profiles about it, but my question is, will the first time using it yield the most dramatic results like with a first cycle on AAS? I don't usually use fatburners (have tried ECA a few times) but despite my fairly high metabolism I have managed to get a gut during the last 12 weeks of bulking (+ Sust/Dbol). I have now switched to Enanth/Tren and will incorporate the 2-week on/off clen dosing. I have jumped from 12 to 17.5% in during the last six months and I really need to shred up now. What can I expect if am eating clean, incorporate cardio, and cycle the clen for a few months? Pic of the ones I have is below- are these of decent quality? thanks

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first timer also, but I thought I would say I just got that same exact package in the mail today, hoping for good results with it.
 
of course it will.. your fresh to it, your body will be extremely receptive to it since it has not ever used it.. Honestly. I have been able to keep to the same amount simply by staying two weeks on and then two weeks off. I took a month off of it and now I started back into it. Two days later I am already feeling great results. I use liquid though. I'm not sure if that makes a diff.
 
zZzStarGazer said:
of course it will.. your fresh to it, your body will be extremely receptive to it since it has not ever used it.. Honestly. I have been able to keep to the same amount simply by staying two weeks on and then two weeks off. I took a month off of it and now I started back into it. Two days later I am already feeling great results. I use liquid though. I'm not sure if that makes a diff.

That's good to hear, I plan to rotate and take time off it as well. Gonna try the liquid when I run out of tabs probably.
 
Today, was the first time I took them I took 2 so 40mcg and I didnt feel shit! Thinking of taking three tomorrow, I want to get some of these shakes everyone talks about getting.
 
I wouldn't recommend taking more than usual. I remember when I first tried taking clen and I didn't feel much of the shakes. It wasn't until recently I have begun such. I'll tell you this, it's nothing exciting, especially when you have an awful clen headache. They are unbearable. Keep to the recommended dosage. Results are better than side effects anyway.
 
I dont ramp up never have, always done 100mcg through out my whole cycle and when it stops working stop taking it since increased dosages will do nothing at all.
 
So what do you suggest a standard dose or ramp up. I didnt feel anything at all today on 40mcg of clen, nothing. I felt more the first time I took t-rex! any ideas?
 
How long did it take you guys to see results? What kind of results did you notice? I'm on day 2 and did 40mcg today and felt a little shaky but nothing unbearable. When do I start noticing the fat burning effects?
 
coryriffel011 said:
So what do you suggest a standard dose or ramp up. I didnt feel anything at all today on 40mcg of clen, nothing. I felt more the first time I took t-rex! any ideas?

I think I've heard that not everyone will respond to clen, though the majority will. I guess it seems that some will get the shakes and headaches on just one pill, while some can take up to 160mcg and still go about their day normally. I still have yet to try mine so I'll update my progress when I do include them in the cycle. Has anyone else used the Bulgarian clen before? (these are the ones I have now). How were they?
 
coryriffel011 said:
So what do you suggest a standard dose or ramp up. I didnt feel anything at all today on 40mcg of clen, nothing. I felt more the first time I took t-rex! any ideas?

40mcg's is fuck all, try 100mcg.
 
Hey, I know you fellas have done your reading but read this real quick--it is originally from AnabolicExtreme.com and Big Andy posted it awhile back. (Everyone I've ever heard of starts with 20-40mcg and adds 1 tab per day until side effects aren't tolerable (everyone's body is different) and always 2 weeks on and 2 weeks off too!!!!!

Hope this can help you a little....

What is Clenbuterol?

Clenbuterol is a beta-2 agonist and is used in many countries as a broncodilator
for the treatment of asthma. Because of it's long half life, clenbuterol is not
FDA approved for medical use. It is a central nervous system stimulant and acts
like adrenaline. It shares many of the same side effects as other CNS stimulants
like ephedrine. Contrary to popular belief, Clenbuterol has a half life of 35
hours and not 48 hours.

Dosing and Cycling

Clenbuterol comes in 20mcg tablets, although it is also available in syrup, pump
and injectable form. It's also available as a powder in some areas. Doses are
very dependent on how well the user responds to the side effects, but somewhere
in the range of 4-8 tablets per day for men and 2-4 tablets a day for women is
most common. Clenbuterol loses its thermogenic effects after around 8 weeks when
body temperature drops back to normal. Its anabolic/anti-catabolic properties
fade away at around the 18 day mark. Taking the long half life into
consideration, the most effective way of cycling clen is 2 weeks on/ 2 weeks off
for no more than 12 weeks. Ephedrine or Yohimbine can be used in the off weeks.

Clenbuterol vs Ephedrine vs DNP

Ephedrine will raise metabolic levels by about 2-3 percent and 200mg of DNP
raises metabolic levels by about 30 percent. Clenbuterol raises metabolic levels
about 10 percent and it can raise body temperature several degrees.

DNP is by far the most effective fat burner but many people will never use it
because of the risks associated with it. It also offers no anti-catabolic
benefit. Although it does have anti-catabolic effect, ephedrine's short
half-life prevents it from being all that effective.

As far as side effects, Clenbuterol's are certainly milder than DNP's, and some
would even say milder than an ECA stack. There is no ECA-style crash on
Clenbuterol and many users find it easier on the prostate and sex drive. This
may in part be due to the fact that Clen is generally used for only 2 weeks at a
time.

Side effects

NAUSEA
NERVOUSNESS
DIZZINESS
DROWSINESS
DRY MOUTH
FACIAL FLUSHING
HEADACHE
HEARTBURN
INCREASED BLOOD PRESSURE
INCREASED SWEATING
INSOMNIA
LIGHTHEADEDNESS
MUSCLE CRAMPS
TREMORS
VOMITING
CHEST PAIN

The most significant side effects are muscle cramps, nervousness, headaches, and
increased blood pressure.

Muscle cramps can be avoided by drinking 1.5-2 gallons of water and consuming
bananas and oranges or supplementing with potassium tablets at 200-400mg a
day taken before bed on an empty stomach. Taurine at 3-5grams is a necessity in
minimizing cramps.

Headaches can easily be avoided with Tylenol Extra Strength taking at the first
signs of a headache.

Common Uses

Post-Cycle Therapy: Clen is used post cycle to aid in recovery. It allows the
user to continue eating large amounts of food, without worrying about adding
body fat. It also helps the user maintain more of his strength as well as his
intensity in the gym. Diet: Roughly the same as on cycle.

Fat loss: The most popular use for Clen, it also increases muscle hardness,
vascularity, strength and size on a caloric deficit. For the most significant
fat loss, Clen can be stacked with T3. Diet: A high protein(1.5g per lb of
bodyweight), moderate carb(0.5g to 1g per lb of bodyweight), low fat diet(0.25g
per lb of bodyweight) seems to work best with Clen.

Alternative to Steroids: Clenbuterol has mild steroid-like properties and can be
used by non-AS using bodybuilder to increase LBM as well as strength and muscle
hardness. Diet: A moderate carb, high protein, moderate fat diet work well.

Stimulant/Performance Enhancement: It can be used as a stimulant, but an ECA
stack may be a better choice because of it's much shorter half-life. Diet: To
take full advantage of the stimulatory effects of Clen, carbohydrates must be
included in the diet. Ketogenic diets do not work well in this case.

Precautions: Is Clen for you?

The same precautions that apply to Ephedrine must be applied to Clen, although
some people find ECA stacks are harsher than Clen. It should not be stacked
with other CNS stimulants such as Ephedrine and Yohimbine. These combinations
are unnecessary and potentially dangerous. Caffeine can be used in moderation
before a workout for an extra quick. burst of energy.

A word on Ketotifen

Ketotifen is safe antihistamine used extensively some European countries to
treat asthma and allergies. It can up regulate beta-2-receptors that Clen down
regulates. Basically, it allows users to extend their use of Clen for 6-8 weeks
at a time. 2-3mg a day is ideal, 10mg as found in "superclen" can make users
extremely drowsy. It also increases the effectiveness of Clen so doses must be
adjusted accordingly. The downfall of this drug is its ability to induce
extreme hunger is some people, which is not a desirable state to be in when
dieting.

Cycling Clenbuterol

Most users that report bad side effects and discontinue use are those who use
high doses right at the start of the cycle. The worst side effects occur within
the first 3-4 days of use.

A first time user should not exceed 40mcg the first day. Increase by one tab
until the side effects are not tolerable

Example of a first cycle:

Day1: 20mcg
Day2: 40mcg
Day3: 60mcg
Day4: 80mcg
Day5: 80mcg(Note: Increase the dose only when the side effects are tolerable)
Day6-Day12: 100mcg
Day13: 80 mcg (Tapering is not necessary, but it helps some users get back to
normal gradually)
Day14: 60 mcgs
Day15: off
Day16: off
Day 17: ECA/ NYC stack

Example of a second cycle:

Day1: 60mcg
Day2: 80mcg
Day3: 80mcg
Day4: 100mcg
Day5: 100mcg
Day6-Day12: 120mcg
Day13: 100 mcg
Day14: 80 mcgs
Day15: off
Day16: off
Day 17: ECA/ NYC stack

What else do I need to know?

Taurine MUST be used with Clen at 3-5g daily. Clenbuterol depletes taurine
levels in the liver which stops the conversion of T4 to T3 in the liver.
Taurine allows the user to avoid the dreaded rebound effect and painful muscle
cramps. It's a must with Clen.

Clenbuterol should not be taken too close to a workout. It can interfere with
your breathing and complete ruin your workout. When doing cardio, it's
advisable to stay at a consistent pace and avoid HIIT style routines.

Do not take Clen Past 4pm and drink plenty of water; 1.5-2 gallons a day.
 
Oh ya, sorry, but in case you didn't know..... You can get a large bottle of TAURINE for $5 at any store (GNC etc....)
 
WILL B HUGE said:
Oh ya, sorry, but in case you didn't know..... You can get a large bottle of TAURINE for $5 at any store (GNC etc....)

I think I saw it for like $3 from Swanson vitamins. The potassium I believe can be gotten from food sources.
 
Alright, sounds good to me, but I will throw it up to 100mcg tomorrow and see what happens, I dont react good to anything so lets see how it goes! Even if I get the so called clen headaches I dont really care because all I want is some more motivation to even work out harder. Sounds weird but I like to bust my ass even harder when I feel like shit, I guess its just the drive and motivation to be bad ass. So tomorrow 100mcg of clen and we will see I will post and see what it does!!
 
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