Clen and ECA

[ManSharkOneill]

I'm in the middle of my cutting stack (my previous topic explains it) and I have both clen and ECA stack in it. I'm feel fine with running clen in the morning then ECA about 12 hours later for pre workout. When I was off clen for 2 weeks I added a dosage of ECA in the morning then again at the normal pre workout time. Question 1 is that is running clen in the morning and ECA 12 hours later for pre workout have any negative effects other than stress on the heart and CNS even if I can tolerate it? 2nd question is running clen AND a dosage of ECA at the same time in the morning too much and can cause serious adverse effects?

 

[big_boy_1]

Clen has a very long half life 36-48 hours so it wouldn't matter if taken in the morning or at night.

For me clen stopped working in two weeks like clock-work requiring 3 or 4 weeks off to get it working again.
Ketotifen doesn't help at all that's BS. It only made me sleepy and hungry.

I'd try ECA during clen off period.

 

[Jimmyinkedup]

Even though ECA is an Alpha receptor agonist it is also a b2 receptor agonist.......just like clen. This means using eca with clen or alternating using it and clen still down-regulates your b2 receptors.
Ketotifen definitely works for me to maintains clens effectiveness. 1mg/day, at night, def before bed because that stuff knocks you out. What doesn't work AT ALL that people try to use for this purpose is benadryl.

 

[ManSharkOneill]

Both of you are missing the point in my question. I'm speaking primarily on taking a dosage of clen and a dosage of ECA at the same time. I get pretty jittery from clen but goes away after a couple hours. Wondering if adding ECA at the same time would be an obvious no no or could be tolerated

 

[big_boy_1]

With real clen you just wouldn't want or need another fat burner. Not even if you live in Alaska.
Maybe your clen is fake?
I ask because its effects including jitteriness should last a couple days, not hours.

I've never used ECA as ephedrine is hard to find here (Central America) both because of slow sales and because it's closely monitored as a possible meth precursor.

 

[Jimmyinkedup]

Both of you are missing the point in my question. I'm speaking primarily on taking a dosage of clen and a dosage of ECA at the same time. I get pretty jittery from clen but goes away after a couple hours. Wondering if adding ECA at the same time would be an obvious no no or could be tolerated

Your missing what I posted or I should have tied it all together.. They both use the same receptor, it is foolish to use them at the same time. Your robbing yourself and it is or could be potentially unsafe from a cardiovascular perspective, yes.

 

[j_p]

same time or 12 hrs later its still a reckless and unsafe idea IMO.
clen last a long time in system and then adding ECA to your daily supps is putting even more stress on your body.

you say "other than heart or cns issues" dude.... what the heck else matters more?!? the jitters? who cares about the jitters... what about your body man?

I highly doubt you will get ANYONE saying yes its good to take both (if thats what you are looking to hear)

and keto does help. i say DROP the ECA ad add keto with your clen... or drop the clen and just do eca...

 

[Jimmyinkedup]

same time or 12 hrs later its still a reckless and unsafe idea IMO.
clen last a long time in system and then adding ECA to your daily supps is putting even more stress on your body.

you say "other than heart or cns issues" dude.... what the heck else matters more?!? the jitters? who cares about the jitters... what about your body man?

I highly doubt you will get ANYONE saying yes its good to take both (if thats what you are looking to hear)

and keto does help. i say DROP the ECA ad add keto with your clen... or drop the clen and just do eca...

The bold is so spot on Juced, awesome fucking post bro.....

 

[RADAR]

I agree with what is said here, not only running them both together unsafe that combo will have you pacing the floor all night.Think about your health first you only get once chance with your body don't mess it up!

 

[ManSharkOneill]

Just wanna say that anyone on this entire site/blog that runs any PED health isn't their first priority, cut the healthy bullshit. All I was asking was that taking both at the same timing cause my heart to burst out of my chest and be discomforting enough to say fuck it nvm

 

[Jimmyinkedup]

Just wanna say that anyone on this entire site/blog that runs any PED health isn't their first priority, cut the healthy bullshit. All I was asking was that taking both at the same timing cause my heart to burst out of my chest and be discomforting enough to say fuck it nvm

WTF is this tirade? Just because there are risks associated doesn't mean one should not be prudent and minimize them for fucks sake.
You want the straight scoop? Taking both at the same time is fucking stupid man but do whatever the fuck you want.
Then again maybe ill just STFU and let natural selection do its thing.

 

[ManSharkOneill]

About time I got the answer I was trying to get

 

[j_p]

you can use PED safely and cautionaly.. you are using stims like they are nothing, like it doesnt matter/ what ohh you did aas before so screw health anyways, screw it all?
for real man?
so i eat half a birthday cake one day and i should say screw my diet all together?

i smoke a pack of smokes one time and i should say well screw it ill drink my face off too, since smoking (actually is) a big risk?

something like PED use you mention (which can be used responsively and with caution and knowledge) and it means hey screw it, nvm my health, shit im gonna run ECA and clen! might as well since maybe im already being unhealthy! ... ???

I'm scared to see what the rest of your life looks like if this is actually your distorted outlook on life....
scary man....

 

[ManSharkOneill]

Kk

 

[Saiyan7]

Multiple people said not to take them together. And even told you why. So how is that bullshit? Ask for advice. Advice given. Take the advice. Or take them together and find out for yourself.

 

[ManSharkOneill]

I decided to not take clen with ECA for the simple fact that I hate clen and like ECA especially before workout. Calm the fuck down you over reacting say it all's

 

[j_p]

I decided to not take clen with ECA for the simple fact that I hate clen and like ECA especially before workout. Calm the fuck down you over reacting say it all's

Don't you mean "know it alls?"


Glad you arnt taking it though.