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Clen and cutting diet

killacam519

killacam519

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Im on my 2nd day of clen and would like to know what u guys think about my diet and amount of exercise, I want maximum results so please let me know if im doing anything wrong. (1st time doing clen)

Im 5'11-165lbs b/f 22%

I lift Monday Wednesday and Friday and do 40 mins of cardio afterwords. I also do 40 mins of cardio on my days off (Tuesday,Thursday,Saturday) and take Sunday off to rest. I take my clen 9am in the morning then go to the gym about a hr or two later. My diet looks like this:

-9am clen
-9:30 protein shakes with 1cup of multi grain cheerios
-11:30 1 banana and 1 apple + 591ml of G2
-1:30 1 can of tuna 2 scoops of light mayo and a whole wheat wrap+ 2 rice cakes
-5:30 Whole grain past and sauce or 1 chicken breast and 1 cup of whole wheat rice
- Protein shake b4 bed

My protein is myo-fusion blend. Please give me some help on this one guys I would REALLY appreciate it
 
Hi there. where did you get your meal plan from? Put nicely, that part needs a lot of work. If I were you, Id consult someone like RADAR. A lot of people go to him with questions regarding their meal plans and what not. Holler at him and I'm sure he'd love to help steer you in the right direction.

As far as Clen goes, if you have questions on that Im happy to help. You didn't really tell us anything about your dosage or anything though. Care to share? and also, please tell me you did your research before beginning this. Too often these days people underestimate clen before jumping in with both feet and no plan..
 
Are you a chick or a dude? And if you're a dude... you WEIGH 165LBS! WHY are you wanting to 'cut'... even if you are 22%Bf at that weight and height... you should just eat clean, and put some muscle on bro... That's like 128 lean lbs... No good man... You'd weigh 141.57 @ 10% without ANY muscle loss... that's no good.. try and just eat clean, and lift.. HEAVY...

Drop the clen too.. cuz you'll SURELY lose muscle on that.. and you don't have much to spare...

You can't chisel a pebble... But I hear ya... I was like 123lbs @ 5'11.. so I've been there...
 
StRoNg_WoN said:
Are you a chick or a dude? And if you're a dude... you WEIGH 165LBS! WHY are you wanting to 'cut'... even if you are 22%Bf at that weight and height... you should just eat clean, and put some muscle on bro... That's like 128 lean lbs... No good man... You'd weigh 141.57 @ 10% without ANY muscle loss... that's no good.. try and just eat clean, and lift.. HEAVY...

Drop the clen too.. cuz you'll SURELY lose muscle on that.. and you don't have much to spare...

You can't chisel a pebble... But I hear ya... I was like 123lbs @ 5'11.. so I've been there...
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Good point. Thank you for chiming in
 
I more less put it together myself, i was told to eat from 5 to 7 small meals a day. Im not very good at the diet aspect of working out. i know what fats are good and which are bad and i know that i need to get close to a gram of protein for every pound of my weight. Ive been researching clen since I was told about it 3 months ago. I have 40mcg caps which I cant accurately split in half so Im going to just go up and down dosage at 40. Tomorrow is the third day ive been running clen (at 40mcgs) and I'm tolerating it very well. I'm going to go up to 80 on day 4,120 day 8-12,80 day 13,40 day 14.
My questions are-Will benadryl make that much of a difference? is that enough cardio? I was told to keep my cardio at a medium pace and not run or jog just fast walking lol! I cant stand fast walking bro i need to run. and last question. Im fully aware of the pyramid dosage cycle or w.e it is called but could'nt follow it by going up at 20mcgs at a time due to my 40mcg capsules. So i built up fine but... But going off 40mcgs the last 2 day's.. How will that effect me and the process of clen?? Good looking out bro Thanks
 
Why would i lose muscle mass? I thought clen had "anti-catabolic" properties which spare muscle and burned stored fat? I would like to Start lean 4 the summer and go hard next year while bulking. I have a thin frame and cant seem to get past 160-165 so to get rid of being skinny fat get rid of the fat and build from there... Right?
 
killacam519 said:
I more less put it together myself, i was told to eat from 5 to 7 small meals a day. Im not very good at the diet aspect of working out. i know what fats are good and which are bad and i know that i need to get close to a gram of protein for every pound of my weight. Ive been researching clen since I was told about it 3 months ago. I have 40mcg caps which I cant accurately split in half so Im going to just go up and down dosage at 40. Tomorrow is the third day ive been running clen (at 40mcgs) and I'm tolerating it very well. I'm going to go up to 80 on day 4,120 day 8-12,80 day 13,40 day 14.
My questions are-Will benadryl make that much of a difference? is that enough cardio? I was told to keep my cardio at a medium pace and not run or jog just fast walking lol! I cant stand fast walking bro i need to run. and last question. Im fully aware of the pyramid dosage cycle or w.e it is called but could'nt follow it by going up at 20mcgs at a time due to my 40mcg capsules. So i built up fine but... But going off 40mcgs the last 2 day's.. How will that effect me and the process of clen?? Good looking out bro Thanks
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First off, the whole 'you need to ramp down when you come off clen' is pretty much a myth. Not necessary. Just come off it when you're done. Secondly..as far as cardio goes, with me for instance ESP when I am at higher doses, I keep the cardio at a steady pace and just go longer. Stay away from HIIT, that's a heart attack waiting to happen lol

As far as diet goes yes it's good doing the frequent meals but I think what freaked us out is the random times you have them set for.. Usually people eat every 2.5-3 hrs etc.

And ps yes you CAN split those suckers up into 20s. Im assuming they're caps w powder in them is why you're not wanting to do it? It's a pain in the a$s but crack that sucker open and split the powder in half. Is it a pain yes but if you're gonna go this route don't half-a$s it. Do it correctly. You only get one body. Don't F it up by being lazy..
 
Ok so 9:30/11:30/1:30/4:30/6:30?? & I wanted to just split the powder in half and down it with water but I didnt know if that would work, or hurt my body. Just figured the capsule was a time release and to take it without the cap would be to much 4 my body at once. Will clen ACTUALLY spare my muscle so I just burn fat?? As dude said I dont have much to spare and I'm what they call a "hard gainer" so I dont want to lost much if all any.
 
Hmmmm... yea... see it's a tricky thing... If you lose 10lbs of fat, and gain 10lbs of muscle... then you weigh the EXACT same... but look 29837498237489374 times better... know what I mean... ?

Honestly... and I know you wanna look 'tight' for the summer... but I think honestly.. that if you diet, and eat well... and put on some muscle.. you'll look much better... Do like a kind of 'lean bulk'.

If you weigh a buck sixty five... that's MINIMUM 165g of protein... but I'd go up to 1.5g... so that's: 247... or 250 for argument sake...

So lets go with that... 250

NOW your TDEE (Total Daily Energy Expenditure) is around 2800 if you train 3 - 4 x week... So I suggest eating that...

We'll go with a diet made up of 40%p/30%c/30%f

So:

250g protein
225g Carbs
100g protein

That's 2800

Good shit...

Now you gotta figure out how to eat these calories...

Go to FitDay - Free Weight Loss and Diet Journal plug that shit in... and you're good to go bro!
 
Take Arginine for cramps...
 
Also for the "Diet"

-9:30 Protein shakes with 1cup of multi grain cheerios *** Shake or shakes? Have one shake, and put oats and berries in it... blend... serve
-11:30 1 banana and 1 apple + 591ml of G2 - *** Get some protein in you here.. Maybe some eggs with it??
-1:30 1 can of tuna 2 scoops of light mayo and a whole wheat wrap+ 2 rice cakes - *** Make it 2 cans...
-5:30 Whole grain past and sauce or 1 chicken breast and 1 cup of whole wheat rice - *** You need the chicken with both - and rice is great! Throw in some veggies too
- Protein shake b4 bed - *** Decent... but you might want something like cottage cheese... unless you are drinking Casein protein

I would also make sure you are hitting your caloric goals... You want REAL food though... Have a shake in the morning, with oats and berries if it's easier.. then one after training... that's 2 shakes a day... with 4 solid meals..

Check out my thread down there to see how I'm eating... and adjust the amounts to suit your needs... :)
 
StRoNg_WoN said:
Hmmmm... yea... see it's a tricky thing... If you lose 10lbs of fat, and gain 10lbs of muscle... then you weigh the EXACT same... but look 29837498237489374 times better... know what I mean... ?

Honestly... and I know you wanna look 'tight' for the summer... but I think honestly.. that if you diet, and eat well... and put on some muscle.. you'll look much better... Do like a kind of 'lean bulk'.

If you weigh a buck sixty five... that's MINIMUM 165g of protein... but I'd go up to 1.5g... so that's: 247... or 250 for argument sake...

So lets go with that... 250

NOW your TDEE (Total Daily Energy Expenditure) is around 2800 if you train 3 - 4 x week... So I suggest eating that...

We'll go with a diet made up of 40%p/30%c/30%f

So:

250g protein
225g Carbs
100g protein

That's 2800

Good shit...

Now you gotta figure out how to eat these calories...

Go to plug that shit in... and you're good to go bro!
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Dont I want to burn more calories then I'm taking in?? Im not looking to get huge i just want to be strong and well toned. Also much respect 4 the reply's fella's I'm off to Try and sleep lol. Talk to you guy's Tomorrow. Peace
 
If you have your heart set on clen then by all means take what we've said and knock yourself out. But I hate to say it...I think I agree with Strong on this one. I feel like, given your current stats and your body type, you're gonna be disappointed with the outcome. In the words of Radar, FOOD is the most anabolic thing you can put in your body...don't be so quick to go to drugs...

So yes I agree with Strong. Get on a good diet and exercise hard and you will be just fine. I feel like with the clen (esp taking it alone) you're gonna waste away! Eating right and working hard in the gym will give you better tone than you think without the clen. Strong has given you some good info here.
 
killacam519 said:
Dont I want to burn more calories then I'm taking in?? Im not looking to get huge i just want to be strong and well toned. Also much respect 4 the reply's fella's I'm off to Try and sleep lol. Talk to you guy's Tomorrow. Peace
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Yes... if you want to get leaner.. but see again.. the issue here is that you can't "tone" what isn't there... Eat 2800 calories... if in a few weeks you don't feel "Toned" enough.. increase your cardio a bit... and maybe drop it down to "2500" but you gotta stick with the plan... and adjust as you go along... there is no magic formula or answer unfortunately...
 
StRoNg_WoN said:
Also for the "Diet"

-9:30 Protein shakes with 1cup of multi grain cheerios *** Shake or shakes? Have one shake, and put oats and berries in it... blend... serve
-11:30 1 banana and 1 apple + 591ml of G2 - *** Get some protein in you here.. Maybe some eggs with it??
-1:30 1 can of tuna 2 scoops of light mayo and a whole wheat wrap+ 2 rice cakes - *** Make it 2 cans...
-5:30 Whole grain past and sauce or 1 chicken breast and 1 cup of whole wheat rice - *** You need the chicken with both - and rice is great! Throw in some veggies too
- Protein shake b4 bed - *** Decent... but you might want something like cottage cheese... unless you are drinking Casein protein

I would also make sure you are hitting your caloric goals... You want REAL food though... Have a shake in the morning, with oats and berries if it's easier.. then one after training... that's 2 shakes a day... with 4 solid meals..

Check out my thread down there to see how I'm eating... and adjust the amounts to suit your needs... :)
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lol ya Just one shake in the morning my bad. Thanks 4 the advice bro it wont go to waste
 
psizzle_8 said:
If you have your heart set on clen then by all means take what we've said and knock yourself out. But I hate to say it...I think I agree with Strong on this one. I feel like, given your current stats and your body type, you're gonna be disappointed with the outcome. In the words of Radar, FOOD is the most anabolic thing you can put in your body...don't be so quick to go to drugs...

So yes I agree with Strong. Get on a good diet and exercise hard and you will be just fine. I feel like with the clen (esp taking it alone) you're gonna waste away! Eating right and working hard in the gym will give you better tone than you think without the clen. Strong has given you some good info here.
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I like you... :D
 
killacam519 said:
lol ya Just one shake in the morning my bad. Thanks 4 the advice bro it wont go to waste
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No sweat brother... :) And if that's you in your profile pic... you're lookin' pretty good! Keep at it man! It'll all fall into place.. :)

Ok I gotta get off this thing.. it's like crack... lol
 
psizzle_8 said:
If you have your heart set on clen then by all means take what we've said and knock yourself out. But I hate to say it...I think I agree with Strong on this one. I feel like, given your current stats and your body type, you're gonna be disappointed with the outcome. In the words of Radar, FOOD is the most anabolic thing you can put in your body...don't be so quick to go to drugs...

So yes I agree with Strong. Get on a good diet and exercise hard and you will be just fine. I feel like with the clen (esp taking it alone) you're gonna waste away! Eating right and working hard in the gym will give you better tone than you think without the clen. Strong has given you some good info here.
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Thanks Alot bro much appreciated! will I lose any muscle??
 
killacam519 said:
Thanks Alot bro much appreciated! will I lose any muscle??
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You might.. yea... but who knows... if you eat at least 2800 cals you shouldn't... ;)
 
StRoNg_WoN said:
No sweat brother... :) And if that's you in your profile pic... you're lookin' pretty good! Keep at it man! It'll all fall into place.. :)

Ok I gotta get off this thing.. it's like crack... lol
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Ya that's me. Thanks man!! lol I Gotta try and sleep to bro. peace
 
killacam519 said:
Thanks Alot bro much appreciated! will I lose any muscle??
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First off I am indeed female lol. Secondly I've rarely seen (especially a guy) run clen alone...you can google it, there are contradicting reports everywhere as to whether or not clen is catabolic.. I ran it with primo this last time and didn't lose anything I didn't want to :) mmm primo. But I digress...lol

Do more research if this is the route you're gonna go. That's all I will say
 
psizzle_8 said:
First off I am indeed female lol. Secondly I've rarely seen (especially a guy) run clen alone...you can google it, there are contradicting reports everywhere as to whether or not clen is catabolic.. I ran it with primo this last time and didn't lose anything I didn't want to :) mmm primo. But I digress...lol

Do more research if this is the route you're gonna go. That's all I will say
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No disrespect I say bro to everyone my bad. Thanks again 4 your input
 
Yea... I call everyone 'dude' I REALLY gotta stop that... :P
 
Haha I say bro, I was just referring to the "fellas" comment lol
 
psizzle_8 said:
Haha I say bro, I was just referring to the "fellas" comment lol
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once again my bad. I wasnt looking at your pic or even reading ur stats. I have muscle to "tone" my chest is pretty big, backs ok/pretty good, and arms are decent I just have really skinny legs :s and and small frame. So I'm hoping the clen will help preserve muscle like I was told it will and burn my excess b/f :)
 
killacam519 said:
once again my bad. I wasnt looking at your pic or even reading ur stats. I have muscle to "tone" my chest is pretty big, backs ok/pretty good, and arms are decent I just have really skinny legs :s and and small frame. So I'm hoping the clen will help preserve muscle like I was told it will and burn my excess b/f :)
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Typical with dudes lol. Big ass upper bodies and chicken legs. Is clen your best option? Absolutely not. But hey, do what you wanna do, at the end of the day it's your decision and no one around here (obviously) can convince you otherwise. Good luck
 
I woulda went with Anavar for your goals OP...
 
psizzle_8 said:
Typical with dudes lol. Big ass upper bodies and chicken legs. Is clen your best option? Absolutely not. But hey, do what you wanna do, at the end of the day it's your decision and no one around here (obviously) can convince you otherwise. Good luck
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I honestly dont think my bf% is 22. When the dude did the test i was wearing jeans and all I did was stand on a fancy looking scale. How precise do u think this is? isnt there clamps or some shit for bf% test?
 
killacam519 said:
I honestly dont think my bf% is 22. When the dude did the test i was wearing jeans and all I did was stand on a fancy looking scale. How precise do u think this is? isnt there clamps or some shit for bf% test?
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Calipers etc yes. Any personal trainer has been trained to perform a bf% test, just go to your local gym and ask one.
 
Might want to add a little more protein bro, I know you said your weight but a high protein diet does extremely well for me. Gl

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