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Clarification needed for second cycle

romadose

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Hey guys,
Have a few questions for you regarding my second cycle. I know this is my first post but I have been reading/researching for many months now, just want some clarification on a few things with timings and doses.

My stats are: 22yo, 5’11”, 82kg (180lbs), BF unknown but probably between 12-15%

My first cycle, which happened about 18months ago consisted of Sustanon250, 500mg in Week 1 and 2 and then 250mg every week from Week 3-10 administered once/week. EQ was added at 2ml/week in Week 6-10. Started PCT 3 weeks from last shot and ran Nolva for 4 weeks at 40/40/20/20.

Got some pretty good gains, including water retention and some fat I went from 74kgs to ~88kgs towards the end. Although because I wasn’t running any AI’s on that cycle I’m sure a decent amount of that was water.

I currently have a 10ml vial of Polysteron250 (Sust250) the type from Venezuela, and am trying to decide what I should stack towards the end of the cycle to help retain gains from the Test and work towards that hard vascular appearance. I’ve been told Primo is good for that especially in combo with test and you maintain the gains from it, but it’s a bit on the expensive side. Would Stanazol stack well with Test? Not to keen on pinning it ED so I’d be likely to take orals, would 40mg/day be sufficient?
This is the basis for my cycle but am thinking of adding either Primo or Stanaz from Week 5-9 (if you have any suggestions for timing/dosage add them to the cycle):

Week 1: Sust250 @ 500mg
Week 2: Sust250 @ 250mg
Week 3: Sust250 @ 250mg
Week 4: Sust250 @ 250mg
Week 5: Sust250 @ 250mg
Week 6: Sust250 @ 250mg
Week 7: Sust250 @ 250mg
Week 8: Sust250 @ 250mg
Week 9: Sust250 @ 250mg
Week 10-12: No IM’s, waiting for long esters of Test to subside, but training as per usual
PCT- Week 13-14: Arimidex @ 1mg/day, Nolva @ 40mg/day, add Sustain Alpha and Tribulus?
PCT- Week 14-15: Arimidex @ .5mg/day, Nolva @ 20mg/day, add Sustain Alpha and Tribulus?

I know Arimidex is an AI and natural Test booster, so should I start using it before the end of the cycle and start of PCT?
I’m going to order LiquiDex (Arimidex), LiquiNolva and probably Sustain Alpha for PCT before I start, but am wondering whether I will need the Nolva for PCT or it’ll just be good to have on standby if I get gyno symptoms? Have heard mixed opinions about HCG, will it be necessary on such a small amount of Test?

Sorry about the 20 questions, just trying to get schooled up from some of you guys with more experience before I start. Any advice is appreciated. Cheers!
 
Forgot to mention that I can get my hands on some Clen, and am planning on cutting down with it after the cycle and PCT is finished. When cutting down I'll make sure my diet is right, heavily reducing carb/fat intake, doing cardio 3-4/week and keeping to lean proteins. 2 weeks on, 2 weeks off with taurine added is the go? How long after my PCT should I wait until I start cutting down, and what would be a proper dose if I get to about 88kg and 5'11"? Thanks again!
 
Well man that sounds pretty good.. I would say start the Arimidex for pct unless you are converting too much test during cycle..

You aren't overdoing the test though so probably just pct.. 1mg per day may even be more than necessary. perhaps 0.5mg per day? perhaps run the pct a little longer than 3 weeks.. 4-5?

I tried Tribulus and don't like it.. but if it works for you go for it!

Also: I am not a fan of clen.. it works well but the whole Cardiac Cell Necrosis bit worries me....
If I was cutting i'd use a sugar free monster or sugar free rockstar every day and keep my diet clean.. do some High intensity cardio..

just my opinions. :D
 
Cheers mate. Yeah I didnt have that much of an issue with bloating last time, got a bit under the neck but it'd be good to keep off as much water as possible so I don't get asked too many q's. Is there any issue with Arimidex inhibiting the effectiveness of Test which on a cycle? I thought 1mg/day was a bit much also, but read an article which mentions that fact that .5 helps mainly with inhibiting estrogen aromotisation but 1mg assists with the natural production of Test.

Clen does sound pretty hectic, but I'm really keen to shed off any excess fat after the cycle is done. Get lean for summer ;)
 
why you frontloading 500mgs first week?just keep it at one dosage threw out cycle

Most people recommend front loading on test as it takes a couple weeks before you feel the effects. That and its better to start off higher and lower the dose to minimise crashing at the end of a cycle..

Any other thoughts about stacking with primo/stanaz for the last 4-5 weeks?
 
If you add winny then 4 or 5 weeks are ok. If you choose primo, run it the whole 10 weeks at 200-300/week. Some may say 300 is not enough, but stacked with test I think will make a difference (plus it will be a lot healthier for you). So, what I would do is sust 250/week for 10 weeks and 300mg primo for 10 weeks, then your pct. I also think 0.5mg of adex per day is too much for this cycle (unless you're really prone to estro ) you should not bloat on 250mg of sust with a clean diet and lots of water. I think this would be a great cycle.
 
If you add winny then 4 or 5 weeks are ok. If you choose primo, run it the whole 10 weeks at 200-300/week. Some may say 300 is not enough, but stacked with test I think will make a difference (plus it will be a lot healthier for you). So, what I would do is sust 250/week for 10 weeks and 300mg primo for 10 weeks, then your pct. I also think 0.5mg of adex per day is too much for this cycle (unless you're really prone to estro ) you should not bloat on 250mg of sust with a clean diet and lots of water. I think this would be a great cycle.

Interesting input.. would the addition of Primo give the muscles are harder/solid characteristic compared to Test?

I assume when adding a compound like Primo to a cycle it will help maintaining the gains from the Test..
 
Anyone else wanna share their experience with sust250 and primobolan stack? Interested to hear what kind of gains you made.
 
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