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CindyLou appreciation!!!

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cant imagine chat without her good willed and positive presence

She really reminds me of a Rose or an Orchid.

I use flowers to explain because in some religions the Rose is considered to be Gods Favorite thing along side the kindness and goodness only a women can display.


anyway lest i digress :artist:
 
one of my fav ladies here...if she wasn't married i would eflirt every chance i got.
cindy is not a "i'd hit it" sorta gal, more of a "i'd marry that"
 
EXACTLY!!! good man bro

marriage material I even said her husband and child are so lucky, shes a "Giver" i can tell, NOT a taker...

also Cindy looks for goodness vs the opposite.
 
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In before Puddles fills the thread with double rainbows and unicorns (since Omega was remiss in not doing so).
 
OMEGA said:
...in some religions the Rose is considered to be Gods Favorite thing along side the kindness and goodness only a women can display.
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source?
 
ceo said:
source?
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Prof Ahmed Bangura.

one day you will realize how smart ~O~ really is

as was said play dumb and weak........ it serves me and us

those that oppress the weak shall inherit no mercy, not a speck of it..... in this domain and beyond
 
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OMEGA said:
Prof Ahmed Bangura.

one day you will realize how smart ~O~ really is

as was said play dumb and weak........ it serves me and us

those that oppress the weak shall inherit no mercy, not a speck of it..... in this domain and beyond
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ah, Islam!

Thought you were a christian rob?

I know you're a smart bor. Like one of them savant types. Real smart but just all socially st00pid and stuff.

I am full of mercy, don't need no more.

:D
 
cindylou said:
Omega, are you a Christian?
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NO not in the typical sense...... they would say I am not.

if you asked me what I think of Jesus, I can say for certain he was of the holy spirit.......

if Jesus were here today, i would do anything for him.

I look at the records of what he did, and how he was oppressed, spat upon, and deliberately weakened by those that had power all for being KIND in a world of greed.

If you asked me to go to Church Id say "Sure" if you wanted me to come along.

I also feel there are other monotheistic religions that have "shimmers" of the True God.

I believe GOD is very real much like you and me, I believe it is awake, alive, cares sooo much, cares more then any of us could ever understand....

I feel it.....

Yet in this domain we allow our selves to not truly find out goods nature, we allow ourselves to be distracted, confused, and we allow FEAR to control us. Worst of all we allow bad bad people to get control...

I believe EVIL exist in very real form in bad bad people, and also in immaterial form.....( Venom like apparitions )

I differ from the rest in that I frankly dont care that Im going to hell for the actions I have done or the actions I will do against bad. Someone has to do it.

Am I pcycho? no, There just comes a point where Justice means MORE then one petty human happiness ( mine own)

I dont blame God or the good of things at all, they have done the best they can.....
 
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OMEGA said:
NO not in the typical sense...... they would say I am not.

if you asked me what I think of Jesus, I can say for certain he was of the holy spirit.......

if Jesus were here today, i would do anything for him.

I look at the records of what he did, and how he was oppressed, spat upon, and deliberately weakened by those that had power all for being KIND in a world of greed.

If you asked me to go to Church Id say "Sure" if you wanted me to come along.

I also feel there are other monotheistic religions that have "shimmers" of the True God.

I believe GOD is very real much like you and me, I believe it is awake, alive, cares sooo much, cares more then any of us could ever understand....

I feel it.....

Yet in this domain we allow our selves to not truly find out goods nature, we allow ourselves to be distracted, confused, and we allow FEAR to control us. Worst of all we allow bad bad people to get control...

I believe EVIL exist in very real form in bad bad people, and also in immaterial form.....( Venom like apparitions )

I differ from the rest in that I frankly dont care that Im going to hell for the actions I have done or the actions I will do against bad. Someone has to do it.

Am I pcycho? no, There just comes a point where Justice means MORE then one petty human happiness ( mine own)

I dont blame God or the good of things at all, they have done the best they can.....
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I'm kind of with you on this one.
 
Omega do not allow yourself to be taunted into having to explain your feelings about God and Jesus, bro. The fools will find in due time, what their transgressions and blasphemy get them.

On a lighter note Cindy is a great person and deserves this appreciation thread. Do not forget to vote her for Ombudsman either, brahs. Peace.
 
OMEGA said:
NO not in the typical sense...... they would say I am not.

if you asked me what I think of Jesus, I can say for certain he was of the holy spirit.......

if Jesus were here today, i would do anything for him.

I look at the records of what he did, and how he was oppressed, spat upon, and deliberately weakened by those that had power all for being KIND in a world of greed.

If you asked me to go to Church Id say "Sure" if you wanted me to come along.

I also feel there are other monotheistic religions that have "shimmers" of the True God.

I believe GOD is very real much like you and me, I believe it is awake, alive, cares sooo much, cares more then any of us could ever understand....

I feel it.....

Yet in this domain we allow our selves to not truly find out goods nature, we allow ourselves to be distracted, confused, and we allow FEAR to control us. Worst of all we allow bad bad people to get control...

I believe EVIL exist in very real form in bad bad people, and also in immaterial form.....( Venom like apparitions )

I differ from the rest in that I frankly dont care that Im going to hell for the actions I have done or the actions I will do against bad. Someone has to do it.

Am I pcycho? no, There just comes a point where Justice means MORE then one petty human happiness ( mine own)

I dont blame God or the good of things at all, they have done the best they can.....
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I agree w/ you on most of that :rose:
 
I envision her wearing a sundress and going on picnics in the sunshine with her child skipping around the grass.
 
superdave said:
I envision her wearing a sundress and going on picnics in the sunshine with her child skipping around the grass.
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Thats funny bro I have that same image in my head. It's a pretty picture, the way it should be.
 
superdave said:
I envision her wearing a sundress and going on picnics in the sunshine with her child skipping around the grass.
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that's exactly how I picture OMEGA.





Though I'm not sure who's child is with him. :confused:
 
cindylou said:
Too many religious people claim to be religious when they are not. My husband tells everyone he is Catholic but he does not really believe in God. The title of the article should be "Most Americans are Not Religious, Secretly Don't Care About God".
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Then they wouldn't be "religious people", right? Sorry, but I think the article is pretty accurately titled. While your experience is that, "Too many religious people claim to be religious when they are not," and your only presented example is that of your husband, my experiences are much different.

The article states:
The new study by the Pew Forum on Religion and Public Life, released this week, shocked many with the revelation that atheists and agnostics tend to know more about the world's religions than believers do.

Pew researchers asked more than 3,000 Americans 32 central questions about the Bible, Christianity and other world religions. On average, people who took the survey got half the answers wrong - and many even tripped on basic questions about their own faith.

Fully 54% of Protestants could not identify Martin Luther as the person who started the Protestant Reformation. Forty-five percent of Catholics did not know that their church teaches that the consecrated bread and wine in holy communion are not merely symbols, but actually become the body and blood of Jesus Christ.
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I have spoken with many Catholics who do not understand or believe, or think that their church teaches transubstantiation (the consecrated bread and wine in holy communion are not merely symbols, but actually become the body and blood of Jesus Christ).

I used to invite mormon missionaries into my home and let them talk about their religion. When I asked them specific questions or brought up contradictions within their own texts, they didn't have the answers. They didn't even have a clue! And these were people who had undergone training on prostletyzing!

I've talked with probably hundreds of people (christians) who sit in church every sunday, many even in leadership (deacons, elders, pastors), who don't really have a clue about the role of Roman emperor Constantine and the Council of Nicea on their faith. They have no knowledge of the secular history of the church and the church will NEVER talk of it from the pulpit to a sunday morning group of people who just want to feel good about themselves for a few hours.

Most of the educated pastors know to some degree how roman paganism and sun worship melded with what the early followers of Christ believed (they didn't think he was God, by the way), to give us, over the course of a couple thousand years, what we currently call christianity today. But, even they turn a blind eye to those truths. I had one pastor tell me I was being a pharisee, and that I should "just believe."

LOL! I wasn't even arguing with him, I just asked him if he knew anything about this history. He said yes. He is a very educated and brilliant man, so I am sure he knows probably more than I do about it. It was when I began to ask him why, when he knows the truth, does he continue to teach the traditions of men as doctrine to his congregation. And I'm the Pharisee??! LOL!

Jesus Christ said:
He answered and said unto them, Well hath Esaias prophesied of you hypocrites, as it is written, This people honoureth me with their lips, but their heart is far from me. Howbeit in vain do they worship me, teaching for doctrines the commandments of men. For laying aside the commandment of God, ye hold the tradition of men, as the washing of pots and cups: and many other such like things ye do. And he said unto them, Full well ye reject the commandment of God, that ye may keep your own tradition. For Moses said, Honour thy father and thy mother; and, Whoso curseth father or mother, let him die the death: But ye say, If a man shall say to his father or mother, It is Corban, that is to say, a gift, by whatsoever thou mightest be profited by me; he shall be free. And ye suffer him no more to do ought for his father or his mother; Making the word of God of none effect through your tradition, which ye have delivered: and many such like things do ye. {Mark 7:6-13}
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ceo said:
Then they wouldn't be "religious people", right? Sorry, but I think the article is pretty accurately titled. While your experience is that, "Too many religious people claim to be religious when they are not," and your only presented example is that of your husband, my experiences are much different.

The article states:


I have spoken with many Catholics who do not understand or believe, or think that their church teaches transubstantiation (the consecrated bread and wine in holy communion are not merely symbols, but actually become the body and blood of Jesus Christ).

I used to invite mormon missionaries into my home and let them talk about their religion. When I asked them specific questions or brought up contradictions within their own texts, they didn't have the answers. They didn't even have a clue! And these were people who had undergone training on prostletyzing!

I've talked with probably hundreds of people (christians) who sit in church every sunday, many even in leadership (deacons, elders, pastors), who don't really have a clue about the role of Roman emperor Constantine and the Council of Nicea on their faith. They have no knowledge of the secular history of the church and the church will NEVER talk of it from the pulpit to a sunday morning group of people who just want to feel good about themselves for a few hours.

Most of the educated pastors know to some degree how roman paganism and sun worship melded with what the early followers of Christ believed (they didn't think he was God, by the way), to give us, over the course of a couple thousand years, what we currently call christianity today. But, even they turn a blind eye to those truths. I had one pastor tell me I was being a pharisee, and that I should "just believe."

LOL! I wasn't even arguing with him, I just asked him if he knew anything about this history. He said yes. He is a very educated and brilliant man, so I am sure he knows probably more than I do about it. It was when I began to ask him why, when he knows the truth, does he continue to teach the traditions of men as doctrine to his congregation. And I'm the Pharisee??! LOL!
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Wow - Cindylou appreciation thread is getting moved to the Religion and Politics foumn. What a pity.

I still will appreciate from there Cindy!
 
billfred said:
Wow - Cindylou appreciation thread is getting moved to the Religion and Politics foumn. What a pity.

I still will appreciate from there Cindy!
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someone hasn't been paying attention to the new way things are being done around here.
 
cindylou said:
Too many religious people claim to be religious when they are not. My husband tells everyone he is Catholic but he does not really believe in God. The title of the article should be "Most Americans are Not Religious, Secretly Don't Care About God".
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the worst people Ive ever met in my life were OVER religious exernally..... ( not saying you husband lol)

Cindy I totally agree with you on the title as well.

You have a VERY unique and good point of view that needs to be heard...perhaps you should start writing about your true thoughts and plant more Roses :)
 
cindylou said:
Too many religious people claim to be religious when they are not. My husband tells everyone he is Catholic but he does not really believe in God. The title of the article should be "Most Americans are Not Religious, Secretly Don't Care About God".
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the worst people Ive ever met in my life were OVER religious eternally.....

Cindy I totally agree with you on the title as well.

You have a VERY unique and good point of view that needs to be heard...perhaps you should start writing about your true thoughts and plant more Roses :)
 
NO way, I just like her as a human, Swear to God.

If she were not married, I probably would never hit on her cus shes better then me

I would not want to dirty her with my Corrupt, Evil mind.
 
OMEGA said:
the worst people Ive ever met in my life were OVER religious eternally.....

Cindy I totally agree with you on the title as well.

You have a VERY unique and good point of view that needs to be heard...perhaps you should start writing about your true thoughts and plant more Roses :)
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perhaps you should stop trying to get in cindy's e-pants...
 
OMEGA said:
the worst people Ive ever met in my life were OVER religious exernally..... ( not saying you husband lol)

Cindy I totally agree with you on the title as well.

You have a VERY unique and good point of view that needs to be heard...perhaps you should start writing about your true thoughts and plant more Roses :)
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did you guys even read the entire article? Or did you just see the title and get offended and immediately discredit it?
 
ceo said:
Then they wouldn't be "religious people", right? Sorry, but I think the article is pretty accurately titled. While your experience is that, "Too many religious people claim to be religious when they are not," and your only presented example is that of your husband, my experiences are much different.

The article states:


I have spoken with many Catholics who do not understand or believe, or think that their church teaches transubstantiation (the consecrated bread and wine in holy communion are not merely symbols, but actually become the body and blood of Jesus Christ).

I used to invite mormon missionaries into my home and let them talk about their religion. When I asked them specific questions or brought up contradictions within their own texts, they didn't have the answers. They didn't even have a clue! And these were people who had undergone training on prostletyzing!

I've talked with probably hundreds of people (christians) who sit in church every sunday, many even in leadership (deacons, elders, pastors), who don't really have a clue about the role of Roman emperor Constantine and the Council of Nicea on their faith. They have no knowledge of the secular history of the church and the church will NEVER talk of it from the pulpit to a sunday morning group of people who just want to feel good about themselves for a few hours.

Most of the educated pastors know to some degree how roman paganism and sun worship melded with what the early followers of Christ believed (they didn't think he was God, by the way), to give us, over the course of a couple thousand years, what we currently call christianity today. But, even they turn a blind eye to those truths. I had one pastor tell me I was being a pharisee, and that I should "just believe."

LOL! I wasn't even arguing with him, I just asked him if he knew anything about this history. He said yes. He is a very educated and brilliant man, so I am sure he knows probably more than I do about it. It was when I began to ask him why, when he knows the truth, does he continue to teach the traditions of men as doctrine to his congregation. And I'm the Pharisee??! LOL!
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Yes you're right. I understand that religious people who are not religious, are not religious. (lol?) I caught that when I wrote it but kept it anyway. The problem is you don't know who is spiritual or not by meeting them in the street or on a quiz. I dont doubt your experiences at all.. my only example of Catholics is not just my husband, but I was cutting it short for sake of being long winded. I know what transubstantiation means as well, but your run of the mill Catholic does not. When I told J he was a cannibal he had no idea what I was talking about. I agree that most churches dont talk about those things from the pulpit, a good church is rare, and they still wouldn't talk about it on a Sunday, it would be a seperate class on church history. But...again, most people dont search around to find a good church, they go to the one down the street, and they only go to Sunday morning service or Mass. No preacher/pastor is going to do a study on church history on a Sunday Morning. The only people they'd have in their church is the staff.

A Catholic that does not know that he/she is eating the body and drinking the actual blood of Christ, how can they not know that? Just like I said in Javabro's thread, a Christian in America that can't name the first four books of the New Testament, is probably not a Christian. Half of my family is Catholic yet they've never read the bible at all on their own, and only own one really pretty one that collects dust on the shelf.

Oh, and it does not make sense that a pastor would call you a Pharasee because you questioned church history. He might as well call you green.

At some point, I dont think anyone should just believe. If someone could prove to me w/o a shadow of a doubt there was no God, and could provide proof that Jesus was just a man, I couldn't reasonably stick to my faith without turning to pride and stubborness. There are tough questions out there and either there are answers to them or not.

If you dont know the core creeds of your faith, and don't bother to find out when someone asks you or questions you about it, how can you really care? If you don't care, how can you claim to still be a part of it? Yet, so many people do, even going to church each Sunday and doing all the rituals...

I think it just goes to show that religion is a bunch of crap.

So much for keeping it short :rolleyes:
 
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ceo said:
did you guys even read the entire article? Or did you just see the title and get offended and immediately discredit it?
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Why would I be offended by it? I think we are miscommunicating again ceo! If anything this should be a huge wake up call to Americans of whatever faith.
 
OMEGA said:
NO way, I just like her as a human, Swear to God.

If she were not married, I probably would never hit on her cus shes better then me

I would not want to dirty her with my Corrupt, Evil mind.
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woah, I'm not better than anyone. Don't say that :o
 
cindylou said:
A Catholic that does not know that he/she is eating the body and drinking the actual blood of Christ, how can they not know that? Just like I said in Javabro's thread, a Christian in America that can't name the first four books of the New Testament, is probably not a Christian.
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lol @ you just describing over half of the people sitting in churches every sunday. This is why I asked if you indeed read the entire article.

cindylou said:
Oh, and it does not make sense that a pastor would call you a Pharasee because you questioned church history.
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I know, right?!?!

cindylou said:
At some point, I dont think anyone should just believe. If someone could prove to me w/o a shadow of a doubt there was no God, and could provide proof that Jesus was just a man, I couldn't reasonably stick to my faith without turning to pride and stubborness. There are tough questions out there and either there are answers to them or not.
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But people do. Jesus' earliest followers believed that he was just a man, albeit a prophet directed by god, but not GOD himself. The bible was re-written (at Nicea) to make all that stuff up because it fit right in with the current Roman-Pagan beliefs of Mithraism. Modern day Christianity resembles nothing similar to what Jesus taught and what his followers believed.

A great book written from a christian perspective that sums up much of this stuff is, "Too Long In the Sun," by Richard Rives. I recommend you pick up a copy if you can. If you can't find it, you can go to Too Long in the Sun - Richard Rives - Christmas - Easter - Sunday Rest - Sabbath to read more. You may be able to order it there too. The problem I've ran into when recommending this or other revealing books (even the encyclopedia) on the subject to xtians is that they would rather cover their ears and eyes and pretend the truth doesn't exist (remember the matrix and the blue and red pills?).

Most people are afraid of what they might discover if they read the fine print too carefully, so they sign on the dotted line without a glance, and then often feel the need to defend their lack of curiosity as an example of their holy trust in their own faith. But every generation has its restless doubters who are just not comfortable with the traditional formulas they are invited to profess by their religious leaders. They cast about, with great intelligence and ingenuity, for alternative formulations that they can assert with a clear conscience.

Those that find them are the theologians; those that don't are the atheists, whether or not they leave their churches or just hunker down in silence.
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cindylou said:
If you dont know the core creeds of your faith, and don't bother to find out when someone asks you or questions you about it, how can you really care? If you don't care, how can you claim to still be a part of it? Yet, so many people do, even going to church each Sunday and doing all the rituals...
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Most people know the creeds of their faith, but many don't believe.

They know, for instance, what a good Catholic is "required to profess" as Pope Benedict (when he was Cardinal Ratzinger) often said, and so, if they are Catholics, they profess it. But they find that they cannot actually believe it. Many people maintain their loyalty as vigorous members of their denominations while quietly setting aside the dogmas, either utterly ignored as irrelevant or wreathed in protective layers of metaphor.
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cindylou said:
I think it just goes to show that religion is a bunch of crap.
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I completely agree! Man made crap. I bet God is pissed at most of it too. :)
 
OMEGA said:
ceo I only read the Jesus quote not the human interpretation or commentary
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that's a shame. You are a prime example of the people this article is describing.
 
oh no Im not CEO:)

I dont proselytize

My only care is to show that God is REAL I dont care about how to get into heaven and all that jazz

Ill burn in hell along with my enemies and like it
 
ceo, I believe I did read the entire article. I was trying to agree w/ it but saying on my own that half of those people shouldn't really count as...a group that represents Christianity. I'm on the side of truth. I'm not afraid to read anything. If it turns out Jesus was indeed a man, that opens up a whole other can of worms..but I guess that's another thread :)
 
cindylou said:
ceo, I believe I did read the entire article. I was trying to agree w/ it but saying on my own that half of those people shouldn't really count as...a group that represents Christianity. I'm on the side of truth. I'm not afraid to read anything. If it turns out Jesus was indeed a man, that opens up a whole other can of worms..but I guess that's another thread :)
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wow, that sounds pretty exclusive. I bet "those people" are glad you're not the "decider".


lol :)
 
ceo said:
wow, that sounds pretty exclusive. I bet "those people" are glad you're not the "decider".


lol :)
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what the decider says about that:

Study to shew thyself approved unto God, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth

My people are destroyed for lack of knowledge: because thou hast rejected knowledge, I will also reject thee
 
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cindylou said:
what the decider says about that:

Study to shew thyself approved unto God, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth

My people are destroyed for lack of knowledge: because thou hast rejected knowledge, I will also reject thee
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Yes, "approved unto God," not "approved unto cindylou" (thank god!).

:biggrin:
 
cindylou said:
woah, I'm not better than anyone. Don't say that :o
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your better then me , yes you are

i would not even allow someone like you to be near me for fear of being poisoned by the hate thats in me

I truly mean that....

( yes ceo I am ok, just speaking freely to show who i really am I am choosing to let this be my honest OMEGA thread since the dialogue seem to have turned to the philosophical)
 
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