Cigaretes: should we ban that stuff or not ?

[starfish]

The only thing worse than having to deal with inhaling other people's cigarette smoke, is seeing them litter the ground with their used cigarettes

 

[manny78]

I agree with banning them in all public places. I hate the smell of cigarettes.

One thing I hate more than anything, is when people smoke in the hallway of my apartment building. And it always manages to smell up my apartment. I feel like walking out there and punching them in the face.

I got a solution for you: Just spray them with pepper spray. Should do the job

 

[HighIntensity]

simple reasoning the ciq. companies own half the goverment

 

[Julez]

I would actually legalise drugs such as E, speed, roids.... I believe that everyone has the right to make an INFORMED choice.

INFORMED being the key word, I think that by making drugs contraband there is a lot of ignorance out there that actually causes deaths.

It is an individual choice and the indvidual must take the consequences. I agree that non-smokers should not be forced to inhale cigarrete fumes therefore smokers(like myself) should be considerate when smoking in public places or any other place where people are forced to inhale the fumes..... it no longer becomes an INDIVIDUAL choice then as other people suffer.

As a nurse though I see more problems with alchohol than any other drug, the consequences of alchohol always seem to stretch much further than the user.... ie family, other road users, victims of voilence.... you name it

At the end of the day you can't take away people's rights smoke or take any other drugs, but I agree that others should'nt have to be affected..... that's just selfish.

 

[cure]

I would actually legalise drugs such as E, speed, roids.... I believe that everyone has the right to make an INFORMED choice.

INFORMED being the key word, I think that by making drugs contraband there is a lot of ignorance out there that actually causes deaths.

It is an individual choice and the indvidual must take the consequences. I agree that non-smokers should not be forced to inhale cigarrete fumes therefore smokers(like myself) should be considerate when smoking in public places or any other place where people are forced to inhale the fumes..... it no longer becomes an INDIVIDUAL choice then as other people suffer.

As a nurse though I see more problems with alchohol than any other drug, the consequences of alchohol always seem to stretch much further than the user.... ie family, other road users, victims of voilence.... you name it

At the end of the day you can't take away people's rights smoke or take any other drugs, but I agree that others should'nt have to be affected..... that's just selfish.

BEAUTIFULLY SAID. LEGALIZE everything and make laws against doing it in public places. Your caught driving while under the influence then it's jail time. We are suppose to be a "free" and "democratic" nation yet we don't have control over our own bodies. STUPIDIEST LAW IN THE WORLD has to be wearing seatbelts. Hey you want to take the chance and maybe kill yourself go ahead. It's our life let us make the final decision.

 

[danielson]

ok


but if you make that descision to lead a risky life, should my tax $$$ go to help you when your in hospital with lung cancer


fact ==> tax from cigarettes doesnt even come close to replacing the money it takes to care for them in hopsital

fact ==> only one type of lung cancer is operable, and there is only a 10% survival rate

fact ==> smoking has become the leading cause of cancer in young women, overtaking breast cancer

fact ==> lung cancer kills more people than AIDS and BSE combined

fact ==> the cause of luing cancer in 99% of cases is smoking and only smoking



u wanna smoke, sine. go do it wayyyy away from me and sign a disclaimer where i dont pay anything for your healthcare, and you give up your bed of someone else needs it

also cut all advertsing so you dont addict young kids.

then i have no problem with smokers

 

[Prometheus]

STUPIDIEST LAW IN THE WORLD has to be wearing seatbelts. Hey you want to take the chance and maybe kill yourself go ahead. It's our life let us make the final decision.

do you really think seatbelt laws are written because politicians care about your well being?

where is the money - who benefits if there are less fatalities and severe injuries, less head injuries that require million dollar treatment and surgery? insurance companies. and the insurance lobby is HUGE.

 

[cockdezl]

ok


but if you make that descision to lead a risky life, should my tax $$$ go to help you when your in hospital with lung cancer


fact ==> tax from cigarettes doesnt even come close to replacing the money it takes to care for them in hopsital

fact ==> only one type of lung cancer is operable, and there is only a 10% survival rate

fact ==> smoking has become the leading cause of cancer in young women, overtaking breast cancer

fact ==> lung cancer kills more people than AIDS and BSE combined

fact ==> the cause of luing cancer in 99% of cases is smoking and only smoking



u wanna smoke, sine. go do it wayyyy away from me and sign a disclaimer where i dont pay anything for your healthcare, and you give up your bed of someone else needs it



also cut all advertsing so you dont addict young kids.

then i have no problem with smokers

Your tax dollars go to many worthless ventures of government and also medical costs. You pay to save drug-users and criminals, welfare mothers and new children, drunk-drivers who get in accidents, etc.

Also, your "fact" that the cost of cigarette taxes does not cover the cost of Medicare spent on these individuals has been shown to be false. Smokers tend to die earlier, for various health reasons, and thus forfeit Social Security benefits that non-smokers utilize, due to their longer life spans. Also, non-smokers will utilize Medicare benefits longer than smokers.

Also, why did you use the idea of lung cancer killing more people than AIDS and Bovine Spongiform Encephalopathy? AIDS still kills predominately gay males (in the US) which is a small population compared to smokers, and BSE is such a rare disease it is nearly irrelevant.


http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,26109,00.html

http://www.junkscience.com/feb99/levy.htm

http://www.desnews.com/dn/view/1,1249,115012475,00.html?

 

[Rex]

I don't think tobacco should be banned. Nor should people have to pay for smokers' hospital bills. I smoke a cigar once in a while, but only on my porch or patio, and whoever is around doesn't mind the smoke. It's just plain ignorant to do it w/o taking other people's distaste for smoke into consideration.

 

[danielson]

Your tax dollars go to many worthless ventures of government and also medical costs. You pay to save drug-users and criminals, welfare mothers and new children, drunk-drivers who get in accidents, etc.

Also, your "fact" that the cost of cigarette taxes does not cover the cost of Medicare spent on these individuals has been shown to be false. Smokers tend to die earlier, for various health reasons, and thus forfeit Social Security benefits that non-smokers utilize, due to their longer life spans. Also, non-smokers will utilize Medicare benefits longer than smokers.

Also, why did you use the idea of lung cancer killing more people than AIDS and Bovine Spongiform Encephalopathy? AIDS still kills predominately gay males (in the US) which is a small population compared to smokers, and BSE is such a rare disease it is nearly irrelevant.

i know they do (the tax dollars)......why not therefore tax smokers to the point where they create enough money to make up for what they are costing us

i live out of the US over the big pond in fact, so when a smoker gets ill, the NHS bails em out. the time between a smoker being diagnosed with lung cancer and him dying can be filled with lots of expensive treatments as well as any other health problems he develops due to smoking

the point i was making is that very prominent attempts are made to reduce AIDS spread and BSE spread. yet smoking, something that can as easily be reduced isnt.