choose 1....

[go_hard_80]

current stats, 195lbs at 6ft 13%bf, i want to get to 195lbs at 9-10%bf
i ahve 15 sust amps left, and 30mg ldex

i only have access to eca, and i have lots of it....

option #1

sust wks 4-10 500mgs wk(7 weeks total)
ldex 0.5mg ed
3000cals a day, 250 protien
cardio 4 days a wk 30min ses on empty stomach

option #2

wks 4-8 750mgs sust wk(5 weeks total)
ldex 0.5 mg ed
2500cals a day, 200-250 protien
cardio 5 sessions a wk 30mins a session in morning with eca and protien shake

what do you guys think will be more effective?

thnx

go_hard_80

 

[go_hard_80]

 

[2Thick]

I think that you should first lose the fat with just cardio and ECA. It should take you about 5-6 weeks with a proper diet low carbo, high protein and high Unsaturated fats. Then use 250-400mg test per week for 8 weeks to gain your muscle.

 

[go_hard_80]

I think that you should first lose the fat with just cardio and ECA. It should take you about 5-6 weeks with a proper diet low carbo, high protein and high Unsaturated fats. Then use 250-400mg test per week for 8 weeks to gain your muscle.

well im on now so im gonna do it with the test, any sugestions?

 

[2Thick]

well im on now so im gonna do it with the test, any sugestions?

Then keep using the test and reduce calories (mainly through carbs). Just make sure to get carbs in the morning and after a workout. Other than that, try to avoid them.

Cardio, high reps in the gym, and intensity will do the rest.

 

[go_hard_80]

Then keep using the test and reduce calories (mainly through carbs). Just make sure to get carbs in the morning and after a workout. Other than that, try to avoid them.

Cardio, high reps in the gym, and intensity will do the rest.

thnx 2thick, but still what would you choose out of the 2 options?

thnx

go_hard_80

 

[2Thick]

#2

 

[go_hard_80]

#2

thank you very much

karma

go_hard_80

BTW: will the 750mgs sust help prevent more muscle loss, compared to 500mgs?

 

[2Thick]

BTW: will the 750mgs sust help prevent more muscle loss, compared to 500mgs?

All you need is about 200mg of test to prevent wasting.

 

[go_hard_80]

All you need is about 200mg of test to prevent wasting.

i learn something new everday, the shouldnt i just run it at 500 for 7 weeks?

 

[2Thick]

Yes that will be fine. I suggested #2 because of the better diet.

 

[go_hard_80]

Yes that will be fine. I suggested #2 because of the better diet.

ok i gotcha, 2500 clean cals sounds good?

 

[2Thick]

Yes, sounds just fine