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[Bam Bam]

O.k. bros, I've been off of the juice for 8 months now so I am ready to start again. This will be my 8th or 9th cycle. I am 5' 9" and around 175 at about 9% BF. My good bro Huck helped me out with this cycle. I changed it around just a little bit. I am debating on whether or not to use fina or eq in this cycle. I have never used fina, but I have used eq in most of my cycles. You guys tell me what you think.

1. testex elmu 750***d-bol 40 mg***fina 75 ed
2. testex elmu 750***d-bol 40 mg***fina 75 ed
3. testex elmu 750***d-bol 40 mg***fina 75 ed
4. testex elmu 750***d-bol 40 mg***fina 75 ed
5. testex elmu 750***anavar 50mg**fina 75 ed
6. testex elmu 750***anavar 50mg**fina 75 ed
7. Winny 50mg******anavar 50mg**primobolan 400
8. Winny 50mg******anavar 50mg**primobolan 400
9. Winny 50mg******anavar 50mg**primobolan 400
10. Winny 50mg*****anavar 50mg**primobolan 400
11. Winny 50mg*****anavar 50mg**primobolan 400
12. Winny 50mg*****anavar 50mg**primobolan 400
Liquidex 1mg daily throughout.
12. Clomid therapy and all the usual liver aids. Also creatine starting at week 5. Should I substitute eq for the fina? Also, do guys think Testex Elmu is as good as sust? Experienced opinions only please. Thanks, BamBam

 

[RustyTromboneMan]

I like to run test longer

 

[Bam Bam]

Everyone must be in bed already (rough weekend). BamBam

 

[genarr3]

Lota 17aa in there. I personally would do either the Anavar or the Winstrol, but not both. I'm a big pussy though.

 

[el cubano]

run the test for 8 weeks and start winny week 9

 

[Jowers]

Everyone must be in bed already (rough weekend). BamBam

I agree with that I'm trying to catch up from the lose of sleep this weekend. Had to get some springbreak partying out of my system before I buckle down in 2 weeks and start my cycle

 

[ready2explode]

Thumbs down on this one! ur 175 lbs u dont need 40 mgs of dbol...30 would be fine and you certainly dont need 750 mgs of test...too many 17aa's...ya pissed at ur liver? save the primo and the anavar (either for a bridge or another cycle)...extend the testex to week 8...add some prop at the end...here lemme just show ya:
weeks 1-4: dbol @ 30 mgs ED
weeks 1-8: testex @ 500 mgs
weeks 5-11: fina @ 75 mgs ED
weeks 8-11: prop @ 50 mgs ED
weeks 12-15: clomid @ 100/100/50/50

try this and YOU WILL GROW (if yer diet/training/rest is rite) and ur liver wont pack and up leave town while ur sleeping one nite...if you wanna use the winny u could sub it for the prop but run it from 7-11 and if you did that id suggest using the prop instead of the dbol (again to save that precious liver of urs) and save that anavar for a test prop/fina/anavar stack in the summer...good luck!

 

[CN1]

thats basically a fuckin cutting cycle, if you only weigh 180 you need to be doin a shitload of sostenon, deca, anadrol, cypionate, and enanthate, all that other shit your doin aint gonna do shit for ya, maybe the dbol will but that other shit is just gonna give you some cuts.........

 

[ready2explode]

You're fucking kidding me rite? dbol n test to start everything off and some prop with fina while you're waiting for your testex test levels to drop? what the fuck r u thinking? DO YOU EVEN NO THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN A CUTTING CYCLE AND A BULKING CYCLE!?!?! THE DIFFERENCE IS, my big mouth friend, YOUR DIET! you could use anadrol to fucking cut if you wanted...the only fucking reason you do juice while cutting is to HOLD ON TO THE MUSCLE YOU HAVE and maybe gain a little but not nearly as much a FUCKING BULKER! fucking 4 weeks of dbol should put close to 20 on him rite there and a test n fina combo is awesome for getting muscle...have you even fucking tried it? prop is at the end so you could still gain some muscle while you're not on the testex any more and then you can start clomid the day after you drop prop...so keep your ignorant mouth shut...AND AT 175 HE DOESNT NEED SHIT LOADS OF ANYTHING! HE DOESNT EVEN HAVE A FUCKING BASE YET! 500 mgs with dbol prop n fina SHOULD give him ATLEAST 20 lbs...ur a fucking moron...

 

[CN1]

hey ready2explode, when you have exploded let me know, till then dont try telling me about shit, prop and fina is just gonna make him hard, he may get some water weight from the dbol, and that sorry ass 500mg of testex well like I said 500mg, when you boys learn how to pump 2000mg of test let me know, till then keep your small asses at home!!!!! Cutting on anadrol, please, that is the most ignorant thing, Ive heard, lets take anadrol and eat a restricted diet, bro anadrol is the fastest steroid to give one size, its not for cutting or ever used to cut!!!!!! Whats the point.

 

[CN1]

bro when you think you have exploded just come on over to golds venice and let me deflate your ass when I drag your ass around on a 200lb dumbbell!!!!!1 In his cycle he is using anavar, primobolan, winny, and fina, he might as well call it a cutting cycle and liquidex, whats the point in takin dbol and test if you dont want to bloat up like a big ass blowfish!!!!!!!!! Thats the only reason I take heavy amounts of test, sO I can walk around swollen to the gills!!!!!

 

[jc21]

i will use 50mg/day for 10 days right before a show along with many anti-e's so i dont retain water. makes me look a lot fuller.

 

[Bill W]

Theoretically, why couldn't someone use anadrol/winny and test on a cutting diet? I'm using this right now on a bulking diet to decent effect. Just because Anadrol's not typically used this way doesn't mean someone's stupid for doing it.

 

[Maxx Out]

This is how I'd run it:


Wk----D's-------test-------fina-------win-------var-------primo
1----40mg/d---750/w----------------------------------------------
2----40mg/d---750/w----------------------------------------------
3----40mg/d---750/w----------------------------------------------
4----40mg/d---750/w----------------------------------------------
5----40mg/d---750/w--------------------------50mg/d-----400mg/w
6-----------------750/w--------------------------50mg/d----400mg/w
7-----------------750/w---75mg/d--50mg/d--50mg/d----400mg/w
8-----------------750/w---75mg/d--50mg/d--50mg/d----400mg/w
9----------------------------75mg/d--50mg/d--50mg/d----400mg/w
10--------------------------75mg/d--50mg/d--50mg/d-----400mg/w
11--------------------------75mg/d--50mg/d--50mg/d-----------------
12--------------------------75mg/d--50mg/d--50mg/d------------------
13----clomid 100mg/day
14----clomid 50mg/day
15----clomid 50mg/day

And arimidex ofcourse!

I'd also throw in some prop after u end the test emlu along w/the fina, win, and var.


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[Maxx Out]

Theoretically, why couldn't someone use anadrol/winny and test on a cutting diet? I'm using this right now on a bulking diet to decent effect. Just because Anadrol's not typically used this way doesn't mean someone's stupid for doing it.

Yes, I do agree 100% BUT only if androl was your only choice and the only aas you could find then yes. But if you could get winny, var, or others why not use them instead, I beleive they r much better suited for cutting/retaining.

CN1 does have a point, why restrict cals. on drol? EAT and blow up!

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[CN1]

you know basically I DONT GIVE A FUCK to all you guys, I could have gone differently with my words about it, the only point I was trying to make is the guy might as well do a cutting cycle since he is doin winny, fina, primobolan, and anavar........and basically anadrol was designed for one thing, add weight quickly, and if a person was to use anadrol on a cutting cycle he would be wasting it, cause one takes anadrol to put on size weight and mass quickly.........and the fundamentals on a cutting cycle such as diet would contradict anadrols uses. I dont even believe in cutting cycles, I believe in taking cutting drugs along with size drugs, all in one...................but basically this shit is worthless to even discuss with rookie ass lifters/juicers..................you guys can tell me about juice when #1 your a pro ifbb or other sanctioned bb'er, or you have a dr.s degree, and doctors are full of shit also.................or #3 you pump 30cc's at once and weigh 280 lbs of symmetrical rock hard mass and muscle that makes a pro bb look like shit!!!!!!!!

 

[Maxx Out]

one takes anadrol to put on size weight and mass quickly.........and the fundamentals on a cutting cycle such as diet would contradict anadrols uses.

100% with u on that one CN1.


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[Bam Bam]

Thanks for the input guys but for starters, I will reach my peak in about week 5. That's the way my cycles have always gone. I will gain plenty of size and strength in the first 5 weeks. Normally I put on about 25 lbs in the first 3 weeks. I know it is mostly water though. I want to turn everything into lean, hard muscle at the end, that's where the cutting drugs come in. What I mean by reaching my peak is that my weight gain will basically come to a hold. I am fortunate enough to have good genetics so I feel like this cycle will work great for me. I want to be about 195 solid at the end of this cycle. That won't be very hard to do with this combination of drugs. I will post before and after pics. BamBam

 

[Bam Bam]

CN1, are you telling me that I wont gain any weight off of this cycle? All I ever here from you is how a cycle aint worth a fuck unless you do 2000mg of test and 1000mgs of anadrol. I grow very good on low doses so why should I risk not having kids or getting testicular cancer by using high doses of test. In my opinion, your body can use only so much test before the rest is wasted. Look man, if you want to take those kind of risks just so you can look big as hell, that's your business. But not everybody wants to be 300lbs at 5% with with no nuts because they had to get them cut out due to testicular cancer. I have a small frame and 195-200 lbs will look good on me. I'm not trying to rag on anybody that wants to be that big or use that much test. Its just not for me. BamBam

 

[ready2explode]

I wasn't saying anadrol was the best choice for cutting, I was simply stating that anadrol could be used because the final outcome of your cycle is what matters. I was also backing up my claims that a bulking and cutting cycle relies much more on your diet than on the steriods used. CN1 you're a fucking moron...I stopped reading your posts when you were blurbing something about pumping 2000 mgs of test into my ass...BAM BAM i definitely respect your decision to keep your doses low. I am of the same thinking. The cycle I recommended I feel would serve your purposes better than the one you have in mind. If you chose to stick with that cycle, then its your choice.

 

[ready2explode]

Theoretically, why couldn't someone use anadrol/winny and test on a cutting diet? I'm using this right now on a bulking diet to decent effect. Just because Anadrol's not typically used this way doesn't mean someone's stupid for doing it.

I've used test enanthate to cut before and thats not the best drug to use for cutting either. Test prop would have been a much better test to use. I could have added eq or winny or anavar or halo. I certainly carried more water on the enan than i would have on some other drugs, but what it comes down to is what I looked like when it was all over and done with. I lost that extra water and saw what all my hard work turned into.