Makavelli said:It depends on the person, but for most people I always have them have a high carb day to refill glycogen stores and a cheat day every once in a while.
^^ I agree.... and it never usually is gratifying when it's over ... funny how that worksTweakle said:just carb up and eat more clean cals for a period to reset your metabolism. Dumping 10,000+ cals of transfat and sugar into a body with a sluggish metabolism has always seemed a bad thing to me
36drew said:How high do you consider high carb? (granted their are going to be fluxtuations from person to person).
Lifterforlife said:Ironically, the mentality is the leaner you get, the less you should cheat. When it is probably quite the opposite.
Hormones can wreak havok. You will have falling test levels, high cortisol. Bring leptin into play here also.
36drew said:Can you explain the leptin concept a bit more. I have heard of it before but would value an explanation.
36drew said:Bumping my request.
dce2956 said:I'll jump in on this. Say you start off at 30% bf, you only need a cheat meal every 2 weeks. As you get lower in BF, you can increase the "cheat" meal frequency. Every week, every 5 days, etc. eventually up to cheat days, and so on. The idea is as you get leaner, your body will be more likely to burn muscle in a caloric deficit, thus increasing the need to stay at or around maintenence cals. Also the reason why it's a hell of a lot easier to get from 30% to 20% BF than from 20% to 10%, and VERY hard to get sub-10%.
And on 'cheat' meals or days, I've found that going out to dinner to a nice fancy restaurant keeps me much saner than eating something terrible for me. Just think of how much better that tastes than McDonalds! A great piece of fish or meat prepared by a great chef, possibly with a glass or two of wine really gets me ready for another week of surviving off chicken and veggies.
Ghede said:On both a physiological and emotional level REWARD days are of great import. One day a week doth not calorie/carb cycling make however, as you all have stated: three days low, one day mod, two days low, one day high (THAT is your 'reward' day).
If you dont, IT will for you, ya know?
36drew said:I don't think I ever claimed that that constitutes carb cycling.
And I don't really understand what you mean when you say 'if you don't, it will for you'. Care to elaborate?
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