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Cheapest ALA?
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THE BOUNCER
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do a damn search! this topic is posted at least 5 times per day. www.anabolical.comarnoldk said:
go_hard_80
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Re: Re: Re: Cheapest ALA?
best of luck making friends on this board with an attitude like that
go_hard_80
um your messing with a 300 pound mad man, probally on anadrol/fina/test cycle, and i hope he rips yer head off...arnoldk said:
best of luck making friends on this board with an attitude like that
go_hard_80
A lot of people have recommended using r-ala instead.
Its a bit more expensive, but you need less of it.
However the recommended amounts .... start to seem to me that it gets a LOT more expensive.
Its about $20 for 10G of it (100, 100mg caps). But people are being told to take 300, 500mgs with a meal ....... so frankly I dont know if its worth it.
It SHOULD be based upon the science, but I dunno.
Its a bit more expensive, but you need less of it.
However the recommended amounts .... start to seem to me that it gets a LOT more expensive.
Its about $20 for 10G of it (100, 100mg caps). But people are being told to take 300, 500mgs with a meal ....... so frankly I dont know if its worth it.
It SHOULD be based upon the science, but I dunno.
r-ALA is a much better return on your investment than ALA. r-ALA is much more potent and has less sides like ALA gut and heartburn that you get with regular ALA.
Overall I don't really think you can compare the two because the r-ALA does so many things like lowering your insulin levels to allow for greater fat burning that it's in a class by itself.
Overall I don't really think you can compare the two because the r-ALA does so many things like lowering your insulin levels to allow for greater fat burning that it's in a class by itself.
THE BOUNCER
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Re: Re: Re: Cheapest ALA?
ya, Um, OK..... SHUT THE HELL UP! it's not what I think is the cheapest it's what I know. all i was trying to do is help you and you turn around and spit in my face! learn some respect biotch!!arnoldk said:
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macrophage69alpha
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riker,
dont know where those reccomendations are coming from but more than 800-1200mg of r-ala per day is too much.. and wasteful..
100-200mg(higher carbs high mg.. lower carbs lower mg) per meal and 200-400mg(same) with a large carb meal or drink (usually the post workout one)
dont know where those reccomendations are coming from but more than 800-1200mg of r-ala per day is too much.. and wasteful..
100-200mg(higher carbs high mg.. lower carbs lower mg) per meal and 200-400mg(same) with a large carb meal or drink (usually the post workout one)
Sorry I offended you guys
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Anyway,
Ulter and Macro(and anyone else),
I know this has been beaten to death, but you say how much better r ala is than the s ala, but does the s ala have benefits, or do you think it is unproductive? I mean, does it lower insulin levels, aid in liver protection, better metabolic performance ect. ect. like r ala but just to a lesser degree as pure r ala? Thanks....
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Ulter and Macro(and anyone else),
I know this has been beaten to death, but you say how much better r ala is than the s ala, but does the s ala have benefits, or do you think it is unproductive? I mean, does it lower insulin levels, aid in liver protection, better metabolic performance ect. ect. like r ala but just to a lesser degree as pure r ala? Thanks....
s-ALA is counter productive to the r-ALA in controlling glucose uptake.
s-ALA is a good anti oxidant. It aids in liver protection. But no where near as well as r-ALA.
If you really want to be an expert on it go here and read the comparisons and science behind it.
Click here
s-ALA is a good anti oxidant. It aids in liver protection. But no where near as well as r-ALA.
If you really want to be an expert on it go here and read the comparisons and science behind it.
Click here
macrophage69alpha
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it is important to clarify..
NO ONE IS USING S-ALA
only AF(as of yet though that will likely eventually change) has r-ala..
all other ala is racemic (IT IS A BLEND OF THE R AND S ENANTIOMERS) it should be a 50/50 blend though as r-ala may degrade faster (r-ala has a shelf life to 2yrs s-ala has a shelf life of 4 yrs.. at least according to the chemical manufacturers) it may have less r-ala due to degradation... another issue is that some companies may mill the racemic (for higher concentration blends which are required in some countries) leaving a higher s-ala content..
once again no product (at least hopefully) is solely s-ala
NO ONE IS USING S-ALA
only AF(as of yet though that will likely eventually change) has r-ala..
all other ala is racemic (IT IS A BLEND OF THE R AND S ENANTIOMERS) it should be a 50/50 blend though as r-ala may degrade faster (r-ala has a shelf life to 2yrs s-ala has a shelf life of 4 yrs.. at least according to the chemical manufacturers) it may have less r-ala due to degradation... another issue is that some companies may mill the racemic (for higher concentration blends which are required in some countries) leaving a higher s-ala content..
once again no product (at least hopefully) is solely s-ala
Dai Kaioushin
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iceman11111.... definitely the cheapest I've ever seen. If I was you I'd order from him.
macrophage69alpha
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tybz28 said:
uhhmmm.. not exactly.. it is just not clear.. because cytosolic reduction (which is how s-ala is reduced) has not been thoroughly tested (from a liver protection standpoint)..
for solely liver detox.. racemic is likely as good (if you divide total dosage by 2) though it may be a slightly better ratio if the cytosolic reduction is beneficial (r-ala is reduced in the mitochondria)
macrophage69alpha said:
Macro !
Can you take a look at this web address
http://www.geocities.com/gymnorge/ala.htm
macrophage69alpha
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far as I can see it does not note chirality.. should be racemic..
that is the formula for thioctic acid
that is the formula for thioctic acid
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