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Great stuff so far, Its only been foiur days but I can see a difference already. My stretch marks are starting to hurt and I"m getting a roid like pump out of this stuff. Hopefully the strength gains come soon.
 
just been starting to take it too. Just have a question.....do you only take it before workout like it says on the bottle or do you take post-workout also? Ive been taking 3 pills around 2 hours before workout and thats it. I also take the same dose on non-workout days
 
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lartinos said:
Great stuff so far, Its only been foiur days but I can see a difference already. My stretch marks are starting to hurt and I"m getting a roid like pump out of this stuff. Hopefully the strength gains come soon.
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Does it feel like deca?
 
I was taking 4-5 a day, but now I'm taking 3 or 4 a day. Doesn't really matter much when you take it.
 
Isnt all CEE the same? doesnt one company have a patent on it and then other companies just relabel the bottles but its the same stuff?
 
Question on CEE. Have any of you currently on or been on CEE, have any side effects with your heart. Like your heart racing or anything like that?? Because I heard someone say their heart raced like hell while on CEE.
 
I've also read that CEE is like monohydrate but without the bloat. So, you should get the extra gym energy from it. However, if you don't get the bloat then will you lose the strength boost. Am I simply wrong about CEE not bloating you? Do you get the strength boost?

The original poster mentions his stretch marks which would suggest that it does bloat you just like monohydrate. Can someone clarify on this stuff, please, as to how it differs from creatine monohydrate?
 
Blut Wump said:
I've also read that CEE is like monohydrate but without the bloat. So, you should get the extra gym energy from it. However, if you don't get the bloat then will you lose the strength boost. Am I simply wrong about CEE not bloating you? Do you get the strength boost?

The original poster mentions his stretch marks which would suggest that it does bloat you just like monohydrate. Can someone clarify on this stuff, please, as to how it differs from creatine monohydrate?
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PureCEE does not cause extra cellular bloat (which creatine monohydrate does)- the esterification is a drug delivery platofrm that assures high plasma concentrations of the parent molecule. With creatine monohydrate significant amount is converted to creatnine and other metabolites before even reaching the plasma.

Yes you do get strength boost, though its true that extracellular water (bloat, in the above case caused by creatnine and other metabolites) while not hydrating and volumnizing the muscle cells still adds stability (for instance fat does the same thing)- so mono may give slightly better strength through over all water weight increase (extra cellular)
 
So the CEE is more efficient at getting creatine/phosphates into the system and thus the lower doses required over monohydrate.

Would I be correct in assuming that due to the superior transport mechanism that there is no longer any need to have to take carbs with it to trigger an insulin response for uptake of CEE? Does the esterification delivery take care of this without the need for an insulin response?
 
hey macro, would there be any benefit to adding some plain old creatine mono. to the CEE stack? maybe 5gms a day in addition to however many gms of CEE we take? Maybe to get that extra h2o retention in the muscles?
 
I meant what would be the point of taking CEE if you are already taking 5g of creatine monohydrate per day. If you are taking sufficient to maintain your saturation with the monohydrate then the CEE will be wasted.
 
No I am saying take CEE with some extra added monohydrate for the extra water retention that the monohydrate gives, just enough, not too much... hey who knows, just a thought :)
 
Well I know the stuff is legit and works, I used my friend as my "lab rat", we both blow up from creatine, so I had him try some KreAklyn (CEE) and he gained 12lbs in 5 weeks, no bloat and he is still vascular.
 
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Blut Wump said:
Would I be correct in assuming that due to the superior transport mechanism that there is no longer any need to have to take carbs with it to trigger an insulin response for uptake of CEE? Does the esterification delivery take care of this without the need for an insulin response?
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Good question - any thoughts on this?

Also, what about using Glucorell at the same time?

Just got my CEE today :) will post how it goes.
 
macrophage69alpha said:
Krealkalyn is a different compound. better than monohydrate but not as good as CEE. Its mainly a buffered and PH adjusted creatine.
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No shit I thought Krealkalyn = CEE and thats the patented stuff everyone sells under their own label. So CEE is really better than Krealkalyn? (Don't worry I am already buying CEE from AF plus $200 worth of other stuff :) )
 
there is no clinical evidence one way or the other. But based on data from other ester amino prodrugs (which are very similar to CEE), it is superior. As well as most, if not all, user reports (those that have used both).
 
plasma insulin may be sufficient for uptake though superior transport is really more "survival", non breakdown into creatnine and other metabolites, and uptake into plasma as opposed to cellular uptake.
 
Bumping for more opinions on CEE. I have a bunch of the regular creatine left, but always looking for something better :-)
Anyone else try it?
 
I read somewhere(I can't find it) that you should'nt take ECA with it because it cancels it out???

Did I hear right??
 
TC2 said:
I read somewhere(I can't find it) that you should'nt take ECA with it because it cancels it out???

Did I hear right??
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not really, it may decrease some of the cellular water (which is part of how creatine works) because caffiene is a diuretic. Though it still works quite well when taking the EC stack or something like thermorexin. Can directly attest to both :)
 
OMEGA said:
nope purity varies GREATLY

they have one of the few pure models
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So which brands of CEE are the best, and which ones arent pure. I purchased some last week from my fitness store, I cant think of the brand off the top of my head, but I want to make sure it isnt bunk.
 
this product gets a big thumbs up from me! I've noticed a good surge of energy while lifting.. much more than before I started taking it..

anyone get a 'euphoric' feeling when lifting when on pureCEE?
 
macrophage69alpha said:
not really, it may decrease some of the cellular water (which is part of how creatine works) because caffiene is a diuretic. Though it still works quite well when taking the EC stack or something like thermorexin. Can directly attest to both :)
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I got my facts mixed up, it was actually that taking ECA would cancel the effect of Nitric Oxide products.

Any truth to this??
 
TC2 said:
I got my facts mixed up, it was actually that taking ECA would cancel the effect of Nitric Oxide products.

Any truth to this??
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well caffiene will actually boost NO products effectiveness. with respect to ephedrine will have to look at that more closely (likely it will have a negative impact-- though probably only to the point where it cancels out caffienes benefit)
 
If Im taking a pill form of CEE. It says to take before workouts, on an empty stomach, because it absorbs better. I dont like working out on an empty stomach, so does this mean Im not absorbing it as well? Should I be taking more than the recommended dose if Im taking them with food? What should I do?
 
das79 said:
If Im taking a pill form of CEE. It says to take before workouts, on an empty stomach, because it absorbs better. I dont like working out on an empty stomach, so does this mean Im not absorbing it as well? Should I be taking more than the recommended dose if Im taking them with food? What should I do?
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you do not have to take it on an empty stomach- thats a reccomendation for more rapid uptake. if you still want rapid uptake a light easily digested meal.
 
thanks a lot macro, I was getting a little worried, Ive been taking CEE for 2 weeks now, and I cant say that I can tell much of a difference. I read other people talking about how much it helps after only 1 week of use. Do you know about when you should be able to feel the effects. I know it aint juice, Im just curious.
 
das79 said:
thanks a lot macro, I was getting a little worried, Ive been taking CEE for 2 weeks now, and I cant say that I can tell much of a difference. I read other people talking about how much it helps after only 1 week of use. Do you know about when you should be able to feel the effects. I know it aint juice, Im just curious.
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if you are not taking PureCEE caps from scotts finest pharm, cannot guarantee that it is CEE. Particularly given the amount of bad or fake material going around.
 
macrophage69alpha said:
if you are not taking PureCEE caps from scotts finest pharm, cannot guarantee that it is CEE. Particularly given the amount of bad or fake material going around.
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Im taking thermo-life CEE caps. I got them from my supplement store that I go to. Its a small place, the owner is the only employee. He has never done me wrong before. Do you know much about thermo-life?
 
TC2 said:
I read somewhere(I can't find it) that you should'nt take ECA with it because it cancels it out???

Did I hear right??
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I've been taking both for a couple of months now and I'm doing fine...Still making nice gains and LBM is starting to improve nicely... :)
 
das79 said:
Im taking thermo-life CEE caps. I got them from my supplement store that I go to. Its a small place, the owner is the only employee. He has never done me wrong before. Do you know much about thermo-life?
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thermolife makes decent product, but there have been a large # of complaints about their CEE. There was a lab test posted, by another company, saying that their material was fake but the lab doing the testing is very questionable. However given the complaints guessing that they (thermolife) did not test it and did not know they they were using- and a considerable amount of the material being sold is either fake or very poor quality (30%). You can make your own inferences from that.
 
macrophage69alpha said:
thermolife makes decent product, but there have been a large # of complaints about their CEE. There was a lab test posted, by another company, saying that their material was fake but the lab doing the testing is very questionable. However given the complaints guessing that they (thermolife) did not test it and did not know they they were using- and a considerable amount of the material being sold is either fake or very poor quality (30%). You can make your own inferences from that.
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all right thats it. Im gonna finish the bottle I have, and try the purecee. How much is it, and where can I get it?
 
macro i am curious as to whether you believe in cycling creatnie. I usually do 4 weeks on 4 off. what do you recommend? btw i have tried purecee - AWESOME pumps, great strength gains, and very little to no bloat. with mono i was very bloated.
 
supplyed said:
macro i am curious as to whether you believe in cycling creatnie. I usually do 4 weeks on 4 off. what do you recommend? btw i have tried purecee - AWESOME pumps, great strength gains, and very little to no bloat. with mono i was very bloated.
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From my experience you need a few good solid months of being on creatine otherwise you tend to lose too much if you come off only after 4 weeks. I used to do months at a time then take a week off.
 
Mac...question... I read an article http://www.1fast400.com/?ingredients_id=39 that says combining Guanidinopropionic Acid with creatine is not good, and that it may make creatine uptake less effective... know of any truth to this? I see some companies combine Guanidinopropionic Acid with their creatine ethtl ester and I wanted to buy a bottle of San "loaded" which contains Guanidinopropionic Acid plus some other glucose disposal agents to my Pure CEE stack I got from you guys.

Thanks
 
DieselNY said:
says combining Guanidinopropionic Acid with creatine is not good, and that it may make creatine uptake less effective... know of any truth to this? I see some companies combine Guanidinopropionic Acid with their creatine ethtl ester and I wanted to buy a bottle of San "loaded" which contains Guanidinopropionic Acid plus some other glucose disposal agents to my Pure CEE stack I got from you guys.

Thanks
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that is correct, there is no reason to supplement GPA it may even be cytotoxic (it should not be an additive to any food or supplement)
 
i just noticed all of the precautions on the cee bottle. what's up with this? I don't ever recall seeing any precautions on any monohydrate bottle
 
Any truth to this shit that the guys at BSN say about creatine (CEE) here is what I found:


****I also talked to the rep at BSN and he told me the same thing. He said that if the CEE is not derived from an anhydrous source of creatine, then the CEE compound will very unstable in water and it will degrade...into Creatinine!! I dont know what to belive... Guess I will stick with the MONO until the real science comes out on CEE...****


and found this


***************I like CEX a little bit, but found Cell Mass to be a little better. Supposedly Cell Mass has the only patent for keeping the ester bond stable. Now it should be clear that BSN gave me this info...so it may be bull shit....but they told me that CEX is the same form that MRI was going to use with their CE2. and the reason MRI didn't come out with it, was because it rendered unstable after a particular window of time upon digestion. It could be a mere sales pitch from the phone guy at BSN, but I do have to say it worked better for me then CEX.**********



These are both from the muscle mayhem boards.

thanks Mac.
 
All this may or may not be true but results don't lie.. If these guys are saying that their strength and size gains are increasing like it is then the CEE is obviously doing it's job right?
 
tgriff said:
All this may or may not be true but results don't lie.. If these guys are saying that their strength and size gains are increasing like it is then the CEE is obviously doing it's job right?
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I just bought 2 bottles of Pure CEE, I trust the guys at AF, just want to know whats all this stuff people are claiming.
 
lartinos said:
Great stuff so far, Its only been foiur days but I can see a difference already. My stretch marks are starting to hurt and I"m getting a roid like pump out of this stuff. Hopefully the strength gains come soon.
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ethyl ester creatine is just as great and cheaper. Order from BAC
 
Blut Wump said:
I've also read that CEE is like monohydrate but without the bloat. So, you should get the extra gym energy from it. However, if you don't get the bloat then will you lose the strength boost. Am I simply wrong about CEE not bloating you? Do you get the strength boost?

The original poster mentions his stretch marks which would suggest that it does bloat you just like monohydrate. Can someone clarify on this stuff, please, as to how it differs from creatine monohydrate?
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Here's my experience from a few weeks of CEE. I got some for my gf and myself. I hate Monohydrate because I get really bloated. This stuff gives me some strength, but I did get a little bloated. I'm really anal about bloat so I may drop it. I'm just really sensitive. My gf on the other hand got the opposite results. She in 5'2" at 110ish. Really lean though. Vascular, etc. Because she has a high rib cage, you really couldn't see her abs. Even with a vascular stomach! Right around the 2 week mark on CEE, BAM. Ab's! She looks like she just dropped 2% BF. No shit, we can't believe it. I accused her of sneaking some var behind my back! But this is the only thing she has changed, so I don't doubt it's the CEE. I guess we all react differently to supps.

Thanks AF!
 
Rainbows said:
ethyl ester creatine is just as great and cheaper. Order from BAC
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If you're going to try CEE then you might as well go for whatever brand AF carries since this board is almost home to them and they can answer any issues you might have.
 
I personally order some CEE this what I found!. I just got off a cycle Test E and EQ started taking CEE right after my last shot. Its been almost 4 weeks still doing PCT and my strength is still up I lost about 5lbs due to water retention from Test E and I'm getting nastier pumps on this stuff then when I was on. So I give it a go and thank god they are capsules I use to hate taking all that water and powder while doing creatine. I give it a go doesnt hurt nothing for you to try it!!
 
AF carries pure Creatine ethyl ester, tested by chromadex labs- the only lab with a standard at this time. Many companies, unbeknownst to them since they dont test, are selling either fake or low percentage CEE. Several brands tested at 30% or below.
 
Just started on my CEE and like it a lot...Pumps are better than what I was getting on V12...Don't really have much else to praise..YET...this is my second day..
 
Those taking Purecee, how are you taking it? Before and after workouts? Just got my bottle several days ago. Also, I was taking Fizogens Blitz Cycle before and it stated to take it on empty stomach.... no indication on purecee. Does it matter?
 
Jey150bpm said:
Those taking Purecee, how are you taking it? Before and after workouts? Just got my bottle several days ago. Also, I was taking Fizogens Blitz Cycle before and it stated to take it on empty stomach.... no indication on purecee. Does it matter?
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most people take before and after workout. Most take with food though can be taken on empty stomach.
 
macrophage69alpha said:
most people take before and after workout. Most take with food though can be taken on empty stomach.
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if you take before and after, do you take the full dosage for your bodyweight twice or do you split it up?
 
Just placed an order...im excited... (I'm 19...and didn't want to take superdrol or anything...so i went with the advice of everyone...creatine and protein..)
 
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