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Daisy_Girl

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Kitty has decided she likes peeing on our living room carpet. We are in the process of ruling out a medical problem.

My question is .... what you YOU done that:

1) Has helped stop a cat from peeing on carpet, if it was a behavioral problem (not medical)

2) Gotten rid of the cat pee smell, possibly a product you bought?


Helllllllllllllllllllllllllpppppppppppp the smell is KILLING me. :( I love my cat, but I am about to toss her out the window. (kidding, kind of)
 
White vinegar helps with the smell........do NOT use anything with ammonia in it, as the pee has ammonia in it - thus adding more will attract the cat to the same spot.

How old is she?? Did you do something new - anything lately? Moved furniture, bought new furniture, etc??
 
Go to the pet store and ask for a product called "Nature's Miracle", that'll clean up the smell.

How old is the cat? Suddenly going outside the litter box is often a sign of kidney problems.

Oh, and carpet is evil. I don't suppose there's any chance there's hardwood flooring under the carpet?
 
Thanks for the ideas .... in my original post I already said we ar ein the process of ruling out the medical part. I took her to the vet to rule out medical concerns and am awaiting test results.

No new anything. Things are the same ....... no new furniture, no new litter, no new food, no new routines, no new anything. She is 10 years old, and in perfect health. (unless, of course, the test results come back w/ a UTI or bladder problem)

She is peeing in only one room of the house - the living room, but in multiple spots in the room. In general, it is one section of the room, always within about a 1ft x 4 ft space. The carpet appears pretty clean, but I know the pad is soaked and there is concrete below the pad - not hardwood. :(



ugh .......the smell, and with my sensitive pregnant nose, it is killing me. :(
 
Daisy_Girl said:
Thanks for the ideas .... in my original post I already said we ar ein the process of ruling out the medical part. I took her to the vet to rule out medical concerns and am awaiting test results.

No new anything. Things are the same ....... no new furniture, no new litter, no new food, no new routines, no new anything. She is 10 years old, and in perfect health. (unless, of course, the test results come back w/ a UTI or bladder problem)

She is peeing in only one room of the house - the living room, but in multiple spots in the room. In general, it is one section of the room, always within about a 1ft x 4 ft space. The carpet appears pretty clean, but I know the pad is soaked and there is concrete below the pad - not hardwood. :(



ugh .......the smell, and with my sensitive pregnant nose, it is killing me. :(
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If the area is near the wall....you can always peel the carpet back and cut out the padding in that area and then reinstall new padding. When the carpet is peeled back...clean both sides of the carpet and tack the carpet back down.

It's an easy fix and pretty cheap if you do it yourself.
 
Daisy_Girl said:
Thanks for the ideas .... in my original post I already said we ar ein the process of ruling out the medical part. I took her to the vet to rule out medical concerns and am awaiting test results.

No new anything. Things are the same ....... no new furniture, no new litter, no new food, no new routines, no new anything. She is 10 years old, and in perfect health. (unless, of course, the test results come back w/ a UTI or bladder problem)

She is peeing in only one room of the house - the living room, but in multiple spots in the room. In general, it is one section of the room, always within about a 1ft x 4 ft space. The carpet appears pretty clean, but I know the pad is soaked and there is concrete below the pad - not hardwood. :(



ugh .......the smell, and with my sensitive pregnant nose, it is killing me. :(
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Hmmmmm - maybe some "extra" attention is in order?? With the new baby coming, maybe she feels left out. Or is all weirded out by the baby's stuff about the house - assuming you're starting on the nursery, etc.

If it's merely her peeing to be a beeyotch - then punishing after the fact is not effective as animals don't know what they're being punished for. You'd have to catch her in the act of peeing & either make a loud noise to scare her (ie clapping & saying NO, loud whistle) or squirt her with a water gun.
 
Daisy_Girl said:
Thanks for the ideas .... in my original post I already said we ar ein the process of ruling out the medical part. I took her to the vet to rule out medical concerns and am awaiting test results.

No new anything. Things are the same ....... no new furniture, no new litter, no new food, no new routines, no new anything. She is 10 years old, and in perfect health. (unless, of course, the test results come back w/ a UTI or bladder problem)

She is peeing in only one room of the house - the living room, but in multiple spots in the room. In general, it is one section of the room, always within about a 1ft x 4 ft space. The carpet appears pretty clean, but I know the pad is soaked and there is concrete below the pad - not hardwood. :(



ugh .......the smell, and with my sensitive pregnant nose, it is killing me. :(
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Do you notice her drinking more water than normal? Can you feel any masses around the bladder region? Was a urine sample taken when you went to the vet, or any blood work? Are her stools solid?
 
I was thinking along the lines of jens' post about the baby. The only times my cat has systematically peed on the carpet is in apartments where there was probably a cat that lived there in the past. He doesnt' do it in every place we move to and hasn't' done it in the new places I've lived (so I know there's never been a cat there). I.e. marking its territory. Only thing I can think of outside of the medical stuff. It seriously sucks. I've scrubbed the carpets and the padding as much as I can & I still always lose my rent deposit. Luckily it has never happened in in any of my houses.

The only time my other cats did that when I was growing up was when the one female was getting pretty old. She'd go & spray behind our piano. Thus the piano gets tossed as well as the rug. (When people said "Wow your music stinks", it was literal....)
 
Some good advice above already. Also you need to go to a professional carpet cleaning supply distributor and purchase what the pro's use. It should contain enzymes. When you use a liquid enzyme spotter and deodorizer always shake well before using.

Enzyme actually digest the piss and smell.

( ps. I owned a carpet cleaning company for 10 years)
 
jenscats5 said:
White vinegar helps with the smell........do NOT use anything with ammonia in it, as the pee has ammonia in it - thus adding more will attract the cat to the same spot.

How old is she?? Did you do something new - anything lately? Moved furniture, bought new furniture, etc??
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are you really catwoman?
 
In general, it is one section of the room, always within about a 1ft x 4 ft space.
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Solution:
Get a 1ft x 4ft litterbox and place directly over this space, so when she goes she will go in the litterbox.

(megamania500 bows in response to the thunderous applause generated by those greatly appreciative of said solution)
 
Thanks for the thoughts everyone .... I like the idea of peeing on her and seeing how she likes it, lmao. :)

It's funny, someone brought up to us that she might "sense" I am PG and things will be changing. We have NOT started on the nursery nor have we set up any furniture for the nursery. But someone said she could "sense" the upcoming change. We are really considering if that is the issue.

The vet is doing a urine cluture and some other kidney/bladder tests. The vet did a physical exam and everything is fine. I should have those results soon - but I think she will come out okay on the medical end. SHe is drinking a lot, but she always has.

She WILL pee in her litter box, but not always. She always poops in there.

I never punish her for doing it - I know there is *some* kitty reason for it, and it is justified in her mind. I just have to figure it out.

I think I will get another litter pan and see if that helps. Unfortunately, the spot is not that close to the wall - but close enough that the option of just replacing PART of the pad is a great one.

Thanks to all ....
 
dont abuse the cat.

get a litter box and put it in the room the cat is pissing in it.

play w/ the cat

get the cat some toys

pet the cat

get some catnip

get some kitty treats

play w/ your cat

pick the cat up and walk around the house w/ it

as for the smell you need an enzyme cleaner and if that doesnt work just peel the carpet up and replace the padding or clean it really really well as well as cleaning the carpet when it is peeled up.. it is sooo much easier once its peeled up.
 
Like you said DG - you might want to add a 2nd litter box and clean the litter more often.......
 
A big plastic litter box where she has to climb into it.....three to five inches high.

Once they smell the pee on the carpet...it's open pee season.

I paid like $90 to have my carpet professionally cleaned when one of mine pee'd there.

I also clean the box all the time...especially if I HEAR them clawing in it..
 
QUESTION


my wife got her cat in 1985. Doctors said 5yrs ago...that the cat has 2yrs at most to live. The cat will be 21yrs old in April (Human years).


What is the life expectancy for a house cat ?
 
2ez said:
QUESTION


my wife got her cat in 1985. Doctors said 5yrs ago...that the cat has 2yrs at most to live. The cat will be 21yrs old in April (Human years).


What is the life expectancy for a house cat ?
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Anywhere from 14 years to 25 years.........
 
My cat would not put up w/ that. However if he peed on the carpets in my house (as opposed to a rental) he'd have his ass handed to him.
 
I wish I had an answer for you, Mr. Maxx is picky, he only pee's in a certain corner of his litter box and only craps on the other side. What an odd cat.

Good luck. I too like the idea of peeing on the cat as well. ;-0

Whiskey
 
Whiskey said:
I wish I had an answer for you, Mr. Maxx is picky, he only pee's in a certain corner of his litter box and only craps on the other side. What an odd cat.

Good luck. I too like the idea of peeing on the cat as well. ;-0

Whiskey
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My cat is meticulous like that too. He also doesnt' like when I watch him while he's busy. He actually tries to act like he doesn't hear me going "HEY CC! WHATCHA DOIN IN THERE??" He doesn't seem to get that I dont' enjoy him sitting there while I'm busy either.


At least I don't pee on the carpet..
 
Daisy_Girl said:
Not on my freaking carpet! :)

I have the next couple weeks off work, so kitty and I are going to figure this out together!
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if you have time i really think that holding the cat as much as you can will really help. cats are strange strange creatures.

i hope its not medical. i have spent over 3,500 on my one furball because of urinary tract problems

good luck
 
Whiskey said:
I wish I had an answer for you, Mr. Maxx is picky, he only pee's in a certain corner of his litter box and only craps on the other side. What an odd cat.

Good luck. I too like the idea of peeing on the cat as well. ;-0

Whiskey
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One of my cats wont even TOUCH the litter in the box! He will balance himself along the edges, squat, and do his thing! The worst part is that when he's through he won't cover it up!! He scratches everywhere else but the damn litter! We had to buy a covered box so he won't destroy our walls!! He makes one of our other 2 cats cover it for him!! At leased I know that HIS paws are clean! :lmao: :kitty:
 
My sister had this same problem with a 5 year old cat. I would visit and one day used a squirt bottle with water in it when she would pee, I nailed her and ran after her chasing her outside. It took 2 times and the cat quit. The thing is you have to carry that squirt bottle around for a few days to amke sure you can catch the cat in the act.

Regarding the smell, it sucks I know. Can urine smells SO bad. I have a black light left over from college so I turned on the old "CSI MIAMI" in me and used it to see the urine. It worked and my sister about dry heaved when she saw all the pee spots. She ended up just getting some new carpet and base trim in the room that stunk. Even a professional steam cleaner didn't get rid of the smell.
 
if its a male it needs to be neutered. Which sucks but is true

if it´s a female just start with strong consistent behavioural conditioning.
 
my cat was neutered as a kitten and he had no problem peeinig on the carpet when he felt it was necessary. Not sure I see the relationship.
 
Daisy, she doesn't SENSE your pregnancy, she can smell it, you emit it from every pore in your body ... I wonder if it has to do with your progesterone levels, which will continue to rise ...

Frankly, I have hardwoods that are 80+ years old and aren't pretty. In a way I wish I HAD concrete so I could put down new flooring ... cheaper, easier and sturdier ... refinishing is just out of the question for us now, at least, if ever.

Long story short, you have a choice, pull up the carpet, clean from the concrete up, replace any padding that might have been involved, and clean the CRAP out of the carpet, top it off with a cat repellant ... or just rip up the carpet and put down a wood floor.

YOU WILL NEVER GET THE ODOR OUT JUST BY SPRAYING IT WITH STUFF (you could do it sufficiently to find the room pleasant again just for a human, but we're talking eliminating the odor from an ANIMAL's PERSPECTIVE, so just get that idea right out of your head :). Just because human noses can't smell it doesn't mean a cat can't. They aren't dogs, but their noses are still infinitely more acute than ours). Anyway, either she's responding to the hormones you're emitting, or someone stepped in cat or dog urine outside (it wouldn't have to be much, just a drop would do it, if it was marking urine) and tracked the odor into your house. No matter what the cause, every time she passes that area NOW it occurs to her to remark the spot, because she's smelling HER marking. You won't be able to get her to stop marking because that's like asking her to stop eating or breathing, it's instinctive. She smells that odor, her instinct is to mark on top of it. You have to make the smell utterly go away, and enzymic cleaners, as good as they are, CAN'T get it out of every fiber of a carpet (maybe if you UTTERLY saturated the spots on the carpet and let it sit, and TOTALLY replace the chunk of padding underneath, then followed up with a healthy dose of NO-GO after the carpet totally dried ???)

Then the question becomes, did it soak to the concrete underneath? No matter how clean you get the carpet, the odor can still come up from beneath, and that's why you've got to get EVERY molecule of it.

Without taking that section of the carpet up, working all the way down from the floor up and UTTERLY eradicating the odor that reminds her to re-mark, you can't win.

Sorry for the novel, I'm just trying to save you headaches ... been there, done that.
 
Judo Tom said:
if you have time i really think that holding the cat as much as you can will really help. cats are strange strange creatures.

i hope its not medical. i have spent over 3,500 on my one furball because of urinary tract problems

good luck
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Unfortunately, she doesn't like to be held - she likes to snuggle when I am sitting/laying down (which we do together all the time) but she HATES being held. She will just stuggle and growl and moan until I put her down. SHe has always been that way .... she's weird. :) But I do lay with her all the time and pet her as much as she lets me. :)

Vet called - all the tests look good, so it appears it is not medical. Part of me wishes it was - then it was an easier fix, but I would be so sad if my kitty was sick with something or ucomfortable. :(
 
ok same difference really.. i dont know maybe it was not so happy w/ you but that doesnt seem like the case..

you might want to get a new litter box or two so the cat has some options. is the litter box to small for teh cat. can it turn around and be comfy in there? is it covered and is it a deep box?

i just buy storage containers from walmart and fill em up try adding a new litter box or two around the house and see if that helps..

also perhaps trying changing to a new litter?

maybe give a treat when the cat p's in the litter box?

good luck to you and your kitty
 
Judo Tom said:
ok same difference really.. i dont know maybe it was not so happy w/ you but that doesnt seem like the case..

you might want to get a new litter box or two so the cat has some options. is the litter box to small for teh cat. can it turn around and be comfy in there? is it covered and is it a deep box?

i just buy storage containers from walmart and fill em up try adding a new litter box or two around the house and see if that helps..
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My kitty is just anti-social - except with me. Most cats are somewhat anti-social, but mine REALLY isn't a fan of people (or change). SHe loves me though - she is a Momma's girl, which is why me being pregnant might really be affecting her. I still love on her as much as she lets me though.

Interesting idea about the storage bin ..... I never thought of something that large.

I think she does need another litter box - not jsut a second one, but a LARGER one. She isn't a big cat (about 8.5lbs) but I don't think she likes her litter box very much. I am goign to go out today and buy her a large ones so she has lots of romm to do her "business".

Good ideas, thanks. :)
 
^^ DG - I use a concrete mixing basin for a litterbox.....it's a good size....Just make sure she always has clean litter and make your hubby clean it 1x a week....You really shouldn't be changing/scooping cat litter anymore (likely you're not anyway)

Sorry but glad it's not medical. Medical = easy to fix, behavioral is much more complicated......

Maybe you need to call the Pet Psychic...... :lmao:
 
Daisy_Girl said:
Unfortunately, she doesn't like to be held - she likes to snuggle when I am sitting/laying down (which we do together all the time) but she HATES being held. She will just stuggle and growl and moan until I put her down. SHe has always been that way .... she's weird. :) But I do lay with her all the time and pet her as much as she lets me. :)
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My cat Alice was the same way.
 
Off subject Mr. Maxx update.

Now that it's getting colder out, he's getting much more fluffier. Still wants to go outside too, he never used to. I'll have pics in about a week. Aren't you all just so lucky!?!

Whiskey
 
Whiskey said:
Off subject Mr. Maxx update.

Now that it's getting colder out, he's getting much more fluffier. Still wants to go outside too, he never used to. I'll have pics in about a week. Aren't you all just so lucky!?!

Whiskey
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awwwwwwwwwwwwww ;) :heart:
 
Daisy_Girl said:
lol, I SERIOUSLY think she needs pyschiatric help. :)
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Now you're talking about my boy, Thomas.....he seriously needs Prozac.

Whiskey - can't wait to see the new, fluffy Maxx
 
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