Cardio while "On" - Hinder gains?

[mm107]

just read a thread on here about trying to loose belly fat while on test cycle..

right now im on a test only cycle (500mg/week)

its a first cycle, so im "new" to this side of things.

But i know when i was doing my 5x5 program, i did infact do cardio on my inbetween 'off' days.

So now i workout
Monday - Bench Day
Tuesday - Deadlift Day/Abs
Wenesday - Off
Thursday - Off
Friday - Press day - aimed at shoulders/delts
Saturday - Squat Day

So since while "on" my muscles is it safe to say my muscles will be protected and mostly fat should be burned?

I know on gear, you can burn out your CNS no matter what, But does cardio fall under the catogrory of CNS burnouts?

Just wondering.....

Right now my goal is to bulk, im eating clean, 4k calories/day. But still puting on SOME fat, trying to keep fat to a minimum and all lean mass.

 

[Ulter]

Sesapure/Glucorell/Thermorexin Keep the cardio. In fact, add some after your weight training. Otherwise you're never going to get rid of the fat.
Why would you burn out your CNS on AS?

 

[mm107]

Sesapure/Glucorell/Thermorexin Keep the cardio. In fact, add some after your weight training. Otherwise you're never going to get rid of the fat.
Why would you burn out your CNS on AS?

thanks ulter, glad a smart bro came in...

i didnt mean, by taking AAS, u burn out...i meant....overtraining while "on" can still shut your CNS down. I figured too much cardio = CNS burnout if all my other days im lifting as heavy as i can

 

[Ulter]

If you did too much cardio you'd be the first one on this board to do it. Weight training individuals gravitate toward the weight rack not the cardio room. Don't do more than an hour and you'll be fine.

 

[mm107]

If you did too much cardio you'd be the first one on this board to do it. Weight training individuals gravitate toward the weight rack not the cardio room. Don't do more than an hour and you'll be fine.

I usually like the stair master's step mill. How does that stand up? I usually can only go only for 15 mins w/ a 50lb vest on.....

Just wondering, because the step mill is like a execercise, with cardio involved.

 

[blut wump]

You'll know soon enough whether you're eating into your workouts and find your own balance between high-intensity "fitness" training and fat-burning cardio. You might find that your cardio capacity is impaired from being on gear but you'll never find that gear causes greater burnout than when off.

If you're piling on the weight for a cardio workout or doing, for example, high-speed sprint workouts then it is very likely to eat into your squatting.

 

[mikefear]

My guess is that 90% of us on here don't do ENOUGH cardio..

 

[mm107]

You'll know soon enough whether you're eating into your workouts and find your own balance between high-intensity "fitness" training and fat-burning cardio. You might find that your cardio capacity is impaired from being on gear but you'll never find that gear causes greater burnout than when off.

If you're piling on the weight for a cardio workout or doing, for example, high-speed sprint workouts then it is very likely to eat into your squatting.

and that is what im trying to avoid......

Im eating really clean and training is good....It might just be bloat, but iam still eating 4k/day around....i am also very carb sensitive....

I just dont want to add 20+lbs, and 10 are fat. I like 20lbs, with only 5lbs of chub...even better is 30lbs w/ 25lbs of lean mass =]

 

[mm107]

You'll know soon enough whether you're eating into your workouts and find your own balance between high-intensity "fitness" training and fat-burning cardio. You might find that your cardio capacity is impaired from being on gear but you'll never find that gear causes greater burnout than when off.

If you're piling on the weight for a cardio workout or doing, for example, high-speed sprint workouts then it is very likely to eat into your squatting.

so what do U reccomend as well blut?

i wasnt planning on doing cardio on workout days, only off days

 

[blut wump]

These days I'm in the 90% that skimps on cardio and I almost always do it as high-intensity interval-style mode. You're going to have to find your own balance for your own level of fitness.

If you're eating enough then it's not going to reduce your gains without your first noticing that it's affecting your workouts. At that stage ease back on the intensity of the cardio.

If you're just after fat-burning then there's the usual boring treadmill walking and the stationary bike, both good post-weights options. Brisk walking for 45 minutes or so can be excellent, too, as can swimming. Don't hold back on having fun until you know it's starting to eat into your workouts.

 

[KD1]

There is a big difference in how cardio effects you - both volume and intensity play big roles.

If you walk for an hour 3x weekly, that will do nothing to stunt your growth on cycle.

If however you run that hour at 8 minute mile pace, that can definitely slow your gains.

I do 2 cardio workouts a week, 45 minutes each split between a higher intensity session ( 20-25 minutes ) and a lower intensity session ( 20-25 minutes). This is designed to increase cardio efficiency during the higher intensity part, and burn fat during the secondary low intensity portion.

For instance right now, I run 3 miles at 8 minute mile pace for the high intensity, then do the elliptical at a medium/low setting for the 2nd session.

If I am trying to lose fat, I increase to 3 cardio sessions a week, but the 3rd one I dont do any high intensity training, just 45 min on the low intensity part.