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I am taking some pics on the 25 of this month and was wondering if anyone could help me out with carb loading for them? Any info would help. When to start the load, what to eat, and how many carbs are need to load?
Carb up!
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Joe Stenson
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The 2 biggest factors regarding carb intake on a carb-up are your level of depletion and your LBM.
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Joe Stenson said:
I am in carb depletion right now. Just not sure when I need to start loading and how many carbs a day as i stated above
karachi183
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informed09 said:
You'll prolly get more responses in the nutrition/diet part of elite!
Joe Stenson
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informed09 said:
You'll probably get many different responses, but I know in UD2 you do a 30-hour carbload (start Thursday evening and then go all day Friday), consuming 7-8g carbs/lb of LBM. Saturday morning you're supposed to look full, but not bloated at all. Keep in mind this is from FULL depletion. Like I said above, there's different levels of depletion. Not eating carbs for a couple of days isn't going to fully deplete you.
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Joe Stenson said:
I have been low carb for about 2 weeks now and just started no carbs sunday. are you saying that i wont be depleted?
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informed09 said:
Depends on how low the "low" carb was, as well as your training.
3 or 4 days at 50g of carbs or less + a couple of depletion workouts (high rep, high volume) will get you fully depleted. You can tell if you're depleted or not because you basically can't get a pump in the gym if you are. You should be flat and weak.
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Borg4902 said:
Is there any logic/science behind that? It seems counterintuitive to have the high carb days so far away from the no carb days. Logic tells you to load up on days 4 and 5 and tale off days 6 and 7. This is also how UD2 is set-up and Lyle knows his stuff.
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so which one is it guys?
Joe Stenson
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Borg4902 said:
Thanks Einstein
.I'm asking you what the purpose of days 4 and 5 are in your schedule. Those days aren't really doing much for the actual carbing up, so the way I see it you could just skip them altogether and have this as a 5-day cycle instead of a 7-day one. I'm not saying I'm right; I'm asking you to explain. (I also have a feeling you won't be able to because it doesn't really make any sense but that's beside the point...)
Its so your glycogen stores slowly build to avoid spill over. Dude personally I dont give a shit what you do. I just know as a competitve body builder what bodybuilders do. But hey they look like shit onstage right. You need to sodium load and water deplete also. For god sake this methods even in this months flex.
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Borg4902 said:
Rule #1: Don't ever mention Flex magazine if you want your post to be taken seriously.
Honestly bro, I believe you that that's what some competitive bodybuilders do. I'm just having a real tough time grasping the concept. Spillover is less likely to occur the more depleted you are, ie. on days 4 and 5. So TO ME, it makes sense that you would put the heavy carb days here, and if you want to "top up" your glycogen stores as the week progresses knock the carbs down a bunch but still include them.
My point is simply that from a nutrient partitioning standpoint, those carbs are going to be utilized much more efficiently on days 4 and 5 (when you're coming out of a fully depleted state). So given the same amount of carbs over the period of a week, but using them on a more efficient schedule, "should" yield better results IMO.
Ive read over 1500 articles on carb loading written by professional and amature bodybuilders. Instead of just asking a few peoples opinions I suggest you do the same and actually research the topic. Then make your own decitions from there. Look at there on satge photos and judge it for youself. I dont really have the time to waste explaining all the chemical properties and why its nessisary to do this and not do that. There is a very well known site out there with plenty of info.
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Borg4902 said:
Thanks for your time
Joe Stenson
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Borg4902 said:
If you've read over 1500 articles on a subject you should be pretty knowledgeable on it. I'm just looking for a quick synopsis of why days 4-7 are set up the way they are.
And if you're going to say you don't "have time" to explain and then mention a website, you could at least give us the name of the website.
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Yes he does. Thank God for Mak!!
