Canseco on steroids.

[Massive85]

Hey just wondering if anybody has been watching jose canseco on steroids and whats everyones views on it? I have seen them all so far and he always avoids questions about pct or works his way around it. You guys think he didnt use it? I have read both his books but he dont really seem that educated for a guy whos been using for 20+ years. (Hope this aint against rules or in wrong forum.sorry in advance anyway)

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[stevesmi]

I don't follow baseball much but my view on steroids in sports is this.

if you cheat and deny it and are stupid enough to get caught then you are the reason it is illegal for the rest of us. if not for steroid use in the olympics and in sports it would be legal today 100% in the US. it used to be legal in this country but when these assholes started using it to 'cheat' than it gave the government an avenue to get involved and ban it. its that simple.

in plain english this is my view.. if you play a sport where its illegal to use than don't use, its that simple. cause if you use than you are cheating.. in bodybuilding most of the time you are not tested of course, hence use away.. but if you enter a bodybuilding or powerlifting competition that is tested then man up and don't use instead of trying to cheat and not get caught. getting an advantage on your peers is wrong in my view on the mere fact that steroids help you recover faster, not even counting the other benefits.

now the flipside is this.. taking steroids isn't gonna allow you to be able to hit a 90mph fastball out of the park lol... nor is it gonna allow you to throw a 50 yard pass into a WR's arms, nor is it gonna allow you to dunk a basketball.. so anyone who thinks these athletes somehow got those skills from steroids is dead wrong. but people out there are stupid enough to think that.. i knew a kid who played baseball who was skinny as a rail and couldn't even bench 120 pounds, but he was on dbol. makes no sense to me how dbol would help him be able to catch a fly ball or hit a baseball but he did it and so did all his teammates

 

[Massive85]

Yeah man i totally agree. I live in england so baseball aint a big sport over here but when i started doing reserch into steroids his name always came up so bought his books.lol. He does 2 videos a week on another website (not sure i am allowed to name it on here) talking about steroids but he seems abit uneducated about it considering hes been a user for over two decades.i was just trying to see if anyone of the vets on here have been watching and agreed or disagreed with his views/opinions.lol

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[adsinaction]

Spot on Stevesmi....Im so tired of hearing about this Anabolic awakening in sports. Athletes have been using enhancements to gain an edge since it all began. The good thing that came out of all these busts( Armstrong especially ) is that now, the general public knows just how widespread and far reaching this really is. Now, with all these hightened rules and watchdogs, you watch and see how many past records get broken going forward. These athletes did what they did because we, the viewing public continually demand, better, stronger faster performance. Same really goes for Bodybuilding...look at the progression over time in size. How could it ever go backwards?

 

[Massive85]

Why is america so strict on steroids? in uk they are legal last time i checked.its not as if people overdose onit everyday like classA drugs.

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[Nelson Montana]

Hasn't Canseco been retired for over 10 years?

 

[Massive85]

Hasn't Canseco been retired for over 10 years?

Yeah but he does weekly videos on a website talking about steroids. I wasnt really trying to talk about his baseball career lol. Just wanted to know if anybody watches them and if so what are there opinions on his take on steroids. Is it against the rules if i tell you the website?

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[stevesmi]

Why is america so strict on steroids? in uk they are legal last time i checked.its not as if people overdose onit everyday like classA drugs.

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like i said above they were legal in the US. however during the 80's and again in the 2000's pro athletes got busted for them and congress decided to make them illegal.. the intentions were good and I will tell you why. in pro sports its a joke how they test their own athletes. in the NFL for example you are given ample warning when you will be tested, plenty of time for detection to be late. also GH is not tested. hope this helps explain why congress decided to make them illegal. had the leagues policed their own athletes in the first place congress would have never gotten involved. if the pro athletes would have kept their mouths shut and not made a spectacle of the situation congress would of never even found it necessary to get involved in the first place (thanks Ben Johnson and that other dude from the Raiders who falsely blamed his cancer on steroids)

and here is the kicker. if you find the right endo or clinic you can easily get prescribed GH or test no problem.. i know some rich dude who is 30 who is on GH and test from a doctor, even turns around and sells it to his friends.. he ever brags about it on his twitter how he gets away with it. in that sense no we aren't strict at all with steroids, just gotta know what doctor to go to.. you get the idea where this is going... the DEA and govt agencies lobbied to NOT make steroids on the banned substance list as they do not believe them to be addicting or harmful

but yes you are right its kinda ridiculous how we are a free and liberal country, yet when it comes to certain things we are hypocrites. and the fact that a very small population uses steroids (mostly gym rats) i doubt the laws will ever change unlike other 'things' which i won't mention because its against the rules but it starts with M and ends with A if you know what i mean which was voted on and passed to make legal in several states this past election. there isn't enough people who use steroids to get something like that passed lol.. a very small amount of the population even goes to gyms in the US. we have a lot of strong athletes but we also have a lot of lazy fucks

 

[Massive85]

Oh i see. I understand why they are so strict with it in pro sports but i think its so unfair on the average joe who works hard and just wants to look better for himself.i think its strange how its legal overhere yet no one really talks about it or admits to using. Lol

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