Can you ever be worse post-cycle than pre-cycle?

[dfein]

I have not done a cycle yet. I'm trying to do as much research as I can, but I was wondering if you could lose your cycle gains plus gains that you made clean?

 

[Nelson Montana]

WHy would you lose your natural gains? I guess if you got really suppressed and didn't do PCT and stopped training and began eating like crap you could.

 

[calstate23]

My advice, get in the best shape that you possibly ever think you could get into. Than once your lean and got muscle, hit your cycle and adjust your diet (A LITTLE DIRTY, NOT FUCKING PIZZA EVERYDAY) to start gaining some good size. I have seen so many guys out of shape hit a cycle and think that they are going to look like Arnold. Than I say, "Great job, now you look just as fat and out of shape as you did before, except now your 30 lbs heavier.

 

[OMEGA]

if you get shut down and dont do a PCT it may take up to one year to recover( but usually you recover in alot less time)

if you do fall into the worst scenario then YES you can lose BOTH gains

 

[OMEGA]

WHy would you lose your natural gains? I guess if you got really suppressed and didn't do PCT and stopped training and began eating like crap you could.

exactly